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Mavafanculo
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we can play dueling studies lol
the OTC ai's actually work? I've never tried them -
the OTC ai's actually work? I've never tried them -
another question....clearing gynecomastia while on cycle
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nzrodney
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Mavafanculo said:
Well Mava, where I live its difficult to get prescription AI's & SERMs so I tried importing some OTC products from the US.
Mainly been 6OXO Extreme by Ergopharm active ingredients -
Vitamin B6 (mg) 3.5
Magnesium (mg) 150
Zinc(mg) 10
6-OXO(as 4-Etioallocholen-3,6, 17-Trione) (mg) 300
Quercetin (mg) 600
Resveratrol (mg) 1200
Piperine (mg) 20
but also Formadrol Extreme -
"Formadrol V2 combines two of the best-known anti-estrogen ingredients to make one killer product whether you are on cycle or off cycle. 4-Hydroxy Androstenedione has one great quality in the body! It is known as a suicide inhibitor. This product is proven to bind to Aromatase, which is the nasty enzyme that converts Testosterone into Estrogen. Estrogen conversion through Aromatase is one key factor in destroying your gains and stopping you from being lean and vascular. On cycle, it is a great way to prevent the symptoms of extra estrogen like gyno and increased water weight. Off cycle it provides a positive Testosterone to Estrogen ratio that can help restore natural Testosterone production.
Additionally we added Diadzin, which is a phyto-chemical that acts in two great ways in the body. One, it is a competitive estrogen inhibitor, which like Nolva and Clomid, prevents binding of real estrogen to your receptors. Two, it is shown in the literature to be a partial binder of 5 alpha reductase (5aR)."
I have found the formadrol to be very effective . Cheers, rodney
Nolvadex attaches itself to targeted breast receptors and that'a why it is very effective in combating gyno. It however has no effect on estrogen production. so as soon as you discontinue its use the high estrogen levels that you might have in your system will cause a gyno "flare up" or a "rebound" most commonly known
Letro/adex and aromasin will slow down estrogen production and has nothing to do with any receptors except where estrogen it's produced mainly converted from test through enzymes if I remember correctly.
That's basically the main differences from both Serms and AIs. The reason Letro works in most users in reducing gyno is that it significantly lowers estrogen thus eliminating the raw material to the breast receptors to cause gyno. Arimidex is somewhat milder and so it's aromasin based on dosage. However, if you take enough of any of these compounds you can reduce estrogen production upwards of 90% or more.
Letro/adex and aromasin will slow down estrogen production and has nothing to do with any receptors except where estrogen it's produced mainly converted from test through enzymes if I remember correctly.
That's basically the main differences from both Serms and AIs. The reason Letro works in most users in reducing gyno is that it significantly lowers estrogen thus eliminating the raw material to the breast receptors to cause gyno. Arimidex is somewhat milder and so it's aromasin based on dosage. However, if you take enough of any of these compounds you can reduce estrogen production upwards of 90% or more.
Mavafanculo
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nz is 3.5 the effective dose of b-6 vs prolactin?
and on the otc stuff, I would trust anything by ergopharm (patrick arnold) - politics aside, guy knows his shit
and on the otc stuff, I would trust anything by ergopharm (patrick arnold) - politics aside, guy knows his shit
nzrodney
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Mavafanculo said:
I find 3-6 ED sufficient. Recomm. 5-10. B6 at 3.5 per cap. Yes I agree its prolactin in my case, so effective on that count.
Check this Arnold article -
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/arnold/6-oxo.htm
holy ghost
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yah.
two multi vitamins ed can accomplish similar things too double zink and magnesium
two multi vitamins ed can accomplish similar things too double zink and magnesium
