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Another anavar, first cycle, newbie thread

ho_steppa

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Well here’s a little bit about me:

Age: 31
Weight: 180 pounds
Height: 5’8”
Years training: 10 years + (only the last 2-3 years though with my diet in check)
Current diet: on a fat loss mission doing 40/40/20 of about 1800-2000 clean calories a day (a few minor cheats a week)
No history of serious health problems, disease, injury…
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 335

I’ve read so many of these threads this past week, they all sound so similar, yet ever-so-slightly different, it’s annoying. I was hoping to find a thread and say ‘yippie! that is exactly what I wanted to do and the advice I was looking for!’

As a first oral-only cycle, I want to do anavar 40 mg/day for 12 weeks, my confusion lies in what else to take during and in the PCT.

During the cycle:
-I’m taking creatine right now, and I read creatine is good to stay on while taking anavar.
-For liver support, I’ve heard both sides of the argument. I will take it just to be on the safe side. Is Liv-52 good for liver support?
-AI, I don’t need one since this is a mild steroid

PCT:
I’ve read about HCGenerate (which is out of stock on the dude’s site), Clomid, Arimidex, Nolvadex. Which one and how to dose?

As far as diet goes, I usually try to stay on a deficit 6 out of 7 days a week. Should the diet change during this cycle? Do things like preworkout drinks (NO xplode) and intro workout bcaa’s effect the cycle? Do I up the vitamins (I take an animal pak and a multi daily) or fish oils (I take 3-6 a day)

I hope this is enough information for some of you guys to help me out. Thanks for reading and hope I don’t get blasted for sounding like too much of a newb~
 
24 hour bump after reading and re-reading more threads...

So I'm really confused about the PCT, I know I need one, I'm just having trouble putting it together. HCGenerate is out of stock, I could double dose Bridge, but that is also out. Now what about just taking Unleashed and Post Cycle together in lieu of HCGenerate? Or should I just wait for HCGenerate to be in stock and use that only? Or should I use all three when I am done with the var?

Also, I will be taking Forged Liver Support during with the var and N2 Guard after the var.

anyone???
 
Up the Var to 80mg a day. Use HCgenerate on cycle with N2gaurd. 4 caps a day. Read sticky for PCT. Forma Stanazol 5 pumps am/pm. Post cycle/unleashed 4 weeks and Phytoserms 347. Then do 6 weeks bridge after. Stay away from Cloin/Nolva. Makes you feel like shit. If you can't do 80mg var stay away and save more money. Better yet, buy Beastrol and run 6 weeks at 20mg day. You will be happy provided you eat enough protien and healthy carbs.
 
GOod advice above...

Wait for the hcgenerate in my opinion. I hear 2 weeks from a few days back it should be back in stock.

get a blood test now before your cycle to make sure u know where you normal range is.

And goin from anavar to a beast cycle lol... No I dont agree. Too many sides I hear and prob not great for a first timer. Instead id stick with maybe doing a helladrol cycle first. Less sides, dosnt convert to estrogen. I have a few friends on it now and all love it thus far. Its my proposed next. If u want a layout ley me know and ill post how I was told to do it right.

I just recently came back from a cycle of var at 40mg ed. Really fucked me up mentally. most likely because I didnt come off right, like soo many newbs.. Lol. Let it be a lesson and make sure u have pct before u start. It effects everyone differently so what happened to me may not be the same for you. I had anxiety and slight depression from it. Honestly maybe it wasnt enough but it wasnt worth the money, anx, depression, or even havon to remember to tak it. Gains really arnt tht great and if anything use this in addition to a test as a base... As most will say.
 
Thanks for that guys, I read the PCT sticky and it helps alot. I will look into the Forma Stanzol and PhytoSerms-347. Besides that, I guess it's just a waiting game for HCGenerate and Bridge to be back in stock.

I'm gonna stick with anavar only as my first cycle, I'm already sold on it considering all the good stories (and bad) I've read about it. I also already dropped my loot on it anyways! So I just have to get my PCT in line. and I must say, wow, I didn't think doing a cycle was going to be so pricey! lol, I do spend alot of money on groceries weekly, and I thought I was a supplement junkie prior to researching steroids...I just hope the investment is worth it!
 
Well var is also one of, if not, the most expensive aas to get. So at least from here on youll only save money on aas lol.
 
Hey rage, I read your thread (help with pct after anavar) and yours was one of the worst experiences I heard about anavar. So pretty much you had a bad run from the start (4 weeks in) and didn’t have a proper PCT lined up. 3 months later you find Hcgenerate and most/all problems solved? DO you think you might have gotten fake anavar? Also, What’s the helladrol cycle you plan on running?

edit: been reading up on helladrol, sounds very similar to anavar, but at a fraction of the cost...hmmm
 
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This is how I was told to run the helladrol cycle correctly...

1-4 helladrol cap 3 times a day first two weeks and if you are doing fine them move up to 4 caps the last two weeks
1-4 E-CONTROL 1 cap a day Rlssupplements.com has it.
Discount code Ruthless10
1-4 n2guard 7 caps a day
1-4 HCGenerate 5 caps ed spread out. or 2 caps 3 times a day bridge ( two bottles)
4-8 Unleashed/post combo 1 cap each 2 times a day
4-8 FORMA-STANOZOLOL 5 pumps am and 5 pumps pm

I have 2 friends on this currently and I am watching, waiting until they finish and come back fully before I make my own decision about going ahead and doing it. Both have blood work to accompany the cycle and one of them (the before cycle so far) is posted here.

One guy is 18% ( I believe, could also be 24'% huge diff I know, but I gotta check and get back to ya on it. ) bf and 240lb. He's been on 2.5 weeks. Here's what it looks like 75mg, 75mg, 100mg, 100mg. So far he hasn't really felt too much from it nor seen insane gains. Pose to take 3 weeks to really kick in so we are watching tentatively :). My guess is because he really isn't all that fit.

The other guy is 13% bf and 200lb. He fit as hell and has been on for literally 1 week now at 75mg and says he can for sure tell, has gone up in weight 5lb as well. He is a fit fat guy tho lol, easy gainer, or truly gifted. Couldn't tell ya if it was from the helladrol but I'm sure it is.

Me, I'm 5' 10", 172-175. Hard to gain weight it seems for me and I would hope to get to 185 from doing helladrol, at least 180. Would also like to see a gain In strength in all lifts. But really I wanna push 405 up on the bar :) thts my goal, long term.
 
As for the var being fake, no clue.. By far worst I have ever felt. Was also a first cycle, listening to a friend who had never actually been off before, and didn't know what or how to deal with a panic/anx attack. Never had them before that. I'll never touch the shit again to be honest with you. I think that the constant worry if I had fucked myself up was the worst part and having a friend that really didn't know what he was doing giving advice didn't help, lol.

It's highly possibly it could have been fake considering how I felt, although it's more likely that it was legit var. I had a good source, at least everything else was legit (clen, winny). The symptoms of high bp made me believe it was var... Stupid tho, I know now tht they all can give you high bp while on. And I had back pumps during things that I had to lean over. And the shit hurt. On top of it I went from 158 to 178... Came off, felt like shit for a long time ( no pct and listening to docs to do nothing ) went to 168 and finally recently started gaining mass again. Currently 172-175 during day. So as I reread that, it makes me lean toward it was something else. You don't gain 20 lbs from var, so I read anyhow... Lol I just wish there was a testing facility so I could find out if I'm jus a pussy or if it really was fake.

After reading here and a lot of other places I found out about support supps and all the stuff I should have been on as well as proper pct protocols. I didn't relize how important pct is. ( shit I didn't even know about it before I came here!)
 
And by the way, yeah hcgenerate was a god send. It brought me back to life. And needto's the man to thank for tht!
 
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