fhg- Thanks for the reply, I think I'll start in on a liquid iron sup. pretty soon here, you use any B-vits. ?? I was thinking about maybe using them after hard rides also. I'll try to take a few training trips to some high altitude this winter, but I think for me to ever really do well at altitude im gonna have to live there, I spent 3 weeks at the OTC in Colorado Springs getting ready for MTB worlds and then spent another week in Vail before the race and still had the worst race of my life, maybe it was a long season and I was tired but it was still very upsetting. Im sure I'll try to do that road race in Feb. whats the name of it? Im definitley planning on doing alot more road this coming season, Im looking forward to March where there is a NRC road event every weekend in Cali. will you be doing any of those? well thanks for all the help. lata
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