here is what i got out of it--cardiovascular disease(CVD) is attributed to many factors..diet, exercise , genetics,,,smoking, alcohol, stress....the intereactions between androgens and CVD is not understood well,,but we do know unfavorable lipid profiles can lead to progression of CVD (possible side effect of oral 17 aa androgens).testosterone levels have been shown to be lower(in general) in men with varried sevarity of CVD,,low testosterone is though to occur after CVD progresses(ie..limited mobility, bad diet, 10+ medications a day, changes in vascular system around the testicles).men seem to have a greater risk of CVD compared to women, because women nag us all day long,,cause extra stress when they spend money on stupid arts and crafts that dont do anything that draim my wallet, and they buy a thousand pairs of shoes that they wear once,,also having to listen /deal with their drama..and bust my ass all day at work(leading to a break down of my cardiovascular system little by little so the time i reach 60 i have a massive stroke or heart attack)