Anavar

[Stackinplates]

How is a newbie supposed to find out if they don't ask? That's why I'm writing on here. Yes I'm aware there is info everywhere which I have researched but there are a lot of conflicting theories also which is why I'm asking! I simply asked how to structure a proper pct as I have lots of time to plan because I don't want to piss away gains. Yea let others help me out though. You're a perfect example of why people piss away gains etc if you can't offer some advice

You clearly asking if your test levels will be okay .if you need to do anything to jumpstart your natural test levels... quite frankly shows me that you know nothing about how the hormone and Endocrine system works .when you're going to be messing with your hormones.. you need to really understand what you have to do to get your natural levels back !! there's plenty of reading to be done .and your questions make it seem just like you got on gear didn't know how to get off and want someone to tell you how to get off

do some research on pct because that's more important than ur cycle imo ..! Learn how these hormones affect your body
Don't just take gear and not know what and how it affects ya

Throw up a sample pct and ask for advice on that ... I'm not gonna argue but ima ask ya to really learn and don't just start without knowing how these things affect ur body


Not trying to be a dick but wanting understand what I'm saying we are all here to help but take more initiative on ur own

 

[Stackinplates]

don't run anavar. Just start out with a simple test cycle. If you don't want the water gain, do test prop.
Something like this:

Test P: 300mg a week 1-10 weeks
Liquidex: 0.5 mg a eod week 1-10

Pct:
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20

You were given a pct earlier in the thread ?!

 

[wootoom]

Stackinplate is just being thorough...you don't understand how many people come here asking what they should cycle and have no clue even knowing what TEST is...sit back and actually gain some knowledge before jumping into things.

I was 20 when I joined this site, I never cycled until I was 23. I gained a lot of knowledge from some good people on here. Please don't ruin your first cycle over lack of patience and lack of knowledge. It can cause troubled later in life.

 

[turk1]

You were given a pct earlier in the thread ?!

Yes I was but doesn't pct change depending on the test that you use?.. Ok I'm running test 400 1ml per week for 12 weeks. At week 7 I will introduce anavar & run it 50mg per day until week 12 also..

Pct will be clomid 50/50/50 & nolvadex 60/60/40

Should I use hcg also because this is where I've read conflicting articles. Some say it isn't needed unless you are running heavier cycles than the 1 I am doing. I know hcg is done before pct to prepare the body for clomid & nolvadex use.

Also I read most cases of gyno actually appear while using hcg due to the rapid rise in testosterone! Is my cycle heavy enough for hcg use? If so then what length of time do you use it over? 10 days?..

I understand I should have had pct ready before I even started but I am only 1 week in & have got time still. Apologies if my questions seem dumb but I actually do want to cycle properly & safely. It's hard to use initiative in this case as I don't have anyone to go to for guidance on the matter & I don't want to take any unnecessary risks. Thanks

 

[Stackinplates]

U should be ok without the hcg

I prefer to run it on cycle it works better for me I am not gyno prone though
Like stated above its all about how ur body reacts

The reason ppl get gyno on hcg is due to not controlling estrogen and that's only one of many issues ur gonna run into if u have estrogen issues

U have a Ai on hand correct or are using one ?

If u plan to run the hcg I would use 250 iu 3xweek

And ur pct
Clomid
50/50/25/25

Nolva

40/40/20/20


I've very rarely get out PCT if I could I just don't run a PCT anymore I always stay on TRT does this is work for me every single time and always got my levels up for myself if it's broken don't fix it other people do things differently doses are different so that's why there's so many different protocols out there this one I have done countless times and it's always workEd
The reason why I'm on TRT it's just because my natural test levels as I age did not get as high as I'd like them to be I was staying in the 5 to 600 range but I always want to be up in an optimal levels!


I am a very big component on hCG during cycle if you plan on coming off a lot of guys don't like it on cycle prefer post cycle but there's different ways to do things what you have to do if you have to take this first cycle as knowledge and you have to really pay attention to your body and how it works so you understand for future cycles

If you have all the proper Pct medications and estrogen control medication on hand if you run into any problems then you get adjust the dose accordingly!!

You been given some good BCT options in this thread you also come up with one on your own that you proposed it doesn't look bad but personally I like running my PCT for four weeks depending on cycle sometimes five weeks three weeks will suffice for some people and if it works well for you that's fine but again this is no one perfect thing fits all everyone's body is different reacts differently to medication I can no longer take Clomid anymore it messes up my eyes !!! If someone recommended a Clomid PCT for me I wouldn't be able to do it

Hope this helps

 

[Stackinplates]

Some will say 100 mg clomid others 50

I know the risks with clomid and I don't like recommending high doses

 

[turk1]

U should be ok without the hcg

I prefer to run it on cycle it works better for me I am not gyno prone though
Like stated above its all about how ur body reacts

The reason ppl get gyno on hcg is due to not controlling estrogen and that's only one of many issues ur gonna run into if u have estrogen issues

U have a Ai on hand correct or are using one ?

If u plan to run the hcg I would use 250 iu 3xweek

And ur pct
Clomid
50/50/25/25

Nolva

40/40/20/20


I've very rarely get out PCT if I could I just don't run a PCT anymore I always stay on TRT does this is work for me every single time and always got my levels up for myself if it's broken don't fix it other people do things differently doses are different so that's why there's so many different protocols out there this one I have done countless times and it's always workEd
The reason why I'm on TRT it's just because my natural test levels as I age did not get as high as I'd like them to be I was staying in the 5 to 600 range but I always want to be up in an optimal levels!


I am a very big component on hCG during cycle if you plan on coming off a lot of guys don't like it on cycle prefer post cycle but there's different ways to do things what you have to do if you have to take this first cycle as knowledge and you have to really pay attention to your body and how it works so you understand for future cycles

If you have all the proper Pct medications and estrogen control medication on hand if you run into any problems then you get adjust the dose accordingly!!

You been given some good BCT options in this thread you also come up with one on your own that you proposed it doesn't look bad but personally I like running my PCT for four weeks depending on cycle sometimes five weeks three weeks will suffice for some people and if it works well for you that's fine but again this is no one perfect thing fits all everyone's body is different reacts differently to medication I can no longer take Clomid anymore it messes up my eyes !!! If someone recommended a Clomid PCT for me I wouldn't be able to do it

Hope this helps

Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate it.. Yes I have arimidex on hand but I read that unless its completely necessary to avoid using an AI during cycle.. If I were to use it I'd be using a very low dose, maybe 12.5mg eod? Will def be using nolvadex for pct but on further reading I may pair it up with aromasin instead of clomid & run for 4 weeks.. Thanks again for input

 

[Vast]

Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate it.. Yes I have arimidex on hand but I read that unless its completely necessary to avoid using an AI during cycle.. If I were to use it I'd be using a very low dose, maybe 12.5mg eod? Will def be using nolvadex for pct but on further reading I may pair it up with aromasin instead of clomid & run for 4 weeks.. Thanks again for input

Arimidex can be used on cycle at 0.5mg/EOD and bumped up or down as needed. You are probably thinking of aromasin which would be 12.5mg/EOD. IMO Arimidex is better on cycle and aromasin is better for pct but everyone is different.

 

[turk1]

Arimidex can be used on cycle at 0.5mg/EOD and bumped up or down as needed. You are probably thinking of aromasin which would be 12.5mg/EOD. IMO Arimidex is better on cycle and aromasin is better for pct but everyone is different.

Yes I will be using aromasin for 2 weeks on pct at around 25mg per day. Thanks