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Anavar + SARM Cycle

yodo_1

New member
Hi

I am new to this forum, and would like to ask the opinions of some users here that are familiar with the pharmacology and endocrinology underlying such hormones.

I am 26 years old and have decided to do a light cycle, for the first time.

Stats:

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 83kg
Body fat %: Approximately 13%

I have done a considerable amount of research, and have a strong medical background that aids in understanding the pros and cons of my decisions. I have decided not to use a testosterone base due to my goals and relatively short time using anavar. Here is my plan thus far.

Weeks 1-6: Oxandrolone @40mg ED
Weeks 2-9: Enobosarm (ostarine) @20mg ED

During PCT in week 7 I plan to lower the enobosarm dose for about one week to aid in reducing suppression.

My plan for PCT:

Week 6: Tamoxifen @30mg ED + 7.5-10mg ED Exemestane (Aromasin) [Depending on condition, potentially 3 injections of 1000iu HCG during week 1]
Week 7-8: Tamoxifen @20mg ED + 12.5mg ED Exemestane


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I am worried about testosterone and libido suppression during the anavar cycle. Thus, it would make sense to me to include something to aid against the quick suppression of endogenous testosterone production.

I have heard of people adding tamoxifen (nolvadex) to their anavar cycle during roughly week 2-3 at a low dose. The reasoning here is not estrogen related. Usually males use tamoxifen in order to counteract the negative effects of increased estrogen levels. I understand that oxandrolone does not aromatize at any considerable level to estrogen, so the logic behind including tamoxifen during the anavar cycle is not because one is worried about high circulating levels of estrogens.
Instead, tamoxifen acts as an antagonist at the "hypothalamic estrogen receptor". Put simply, this increases the magnitude of negative feedback on the hypothalamus and thus triggers it to increase GnRH production which then allows for downstream increases in LH & FSH production by the anterior pituitary gland.
This then, at least in theory will function to counteract the suppressive effects of anavar and somewhat increase endogenous testosterone production...

= higher test + sex drive

I would love to hear the thoughts of others with experience on their thoughts about this cycle, and in particular whether some have used nolvadex during anavar only cycles with good result.

Thank you!
 
add hrt dose of test in or run hcg throughout weeked 3-pct

This +1. I've talked to many many people in person and on boards about cycle theories and first cycles, and it seems that the longer and more detailed the rationale is behind not supplementing test, the harder the suppression hits.
 
There's an odd phenomenon that occurs with gear, there's a point where all medical knowledge and facts go out the window and broscience takes over. At the end of the day, the official medical research done on humans and gear gets dwarfed and pales in comparison to the *unofficial "try it, lets see" type research gym-rats have been doing on themselves for decades
 
Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated.

Well with a reasonably low dose of anavar, as well as being first cycle it is likely that suppression won't be too bad.

That's why I was wondering if others have used low dose nolvadex intermittently during the anavar cycle to prevent suppression/stimulate endogenous LH/test release?

Thanks again
 
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