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Anavar/Primo Cutting Cycle

I alos think you have a misconception of steroids. Just because to decide to take some juice does not mean you will be freakishly big they are not a magic pill. It really all depends on your diet and how hard you train. Yes the 20 mgs of var is a waste. you need to take no less than 60-80mgs ED. if you keep your diet at a certian calorie intake then you can achive your goals. Are you thinking of running a test with the Var and Primo?

I just know what test-c/deca did for me before, and that's not what I'm looking for. I need guidance from you guys to do this shit right. In the realm of AAS, the gains I'm aiming for would be considered small. I'm running Serostim now and for the next 5 or 6 months, and I enjoy middle-distance running, so I plan to bump-up my caloric intake while I'm on cycle.

It's been heavily suggested to me to run test, but I wish someone would explain to me why this is so important. I keep asking, and nobody is answering.
 
I just know what test-c/deca did for me before, and that's not what I'm looking for. I need guidance from you guys to do this shit right. In the realm of AAS, the gains I'm aiming for would be considered small. I'm running Serostim now and for the next 5 or 6 months, and I enjoy middle-distance running, so I plan to bump-up my caloric intake while I'm on cycle.

It's been heavily suggested to me to run test, but I wish someone would explain to me why this is so important. I keep asking, and nobody is answering.

When I ran my test E and Deca I actually lost weight and gained lean muscle and was not freakishly huge. I actually went form being 230 down to 210 with a diet of taking in no more that 1800-2000 clean cal's. maybe look at your diet when u ran your test/deca. And now I'm running tren/prop/var and Im actaually up in weight again 236lbs bcs Im takingin a lot more cal's 3,000 give or take. so again...AAS is all stressed on diet and training
 
Alright, you guys have helped a ton with info. Here's what I've got;



1) The general consensus is that I should increase my dose of primobolan depot to a minimum of 400mg/wk, and pin twice a week. This is still considered a lighter dose, but should yield good results. The 200mg/wk dose that I was talking about was just enough to suppress my normal test production.


2) It is heavily advised that I increase the duration of my cycle with a long-acting ester like primobolan. It is suggested that I increase the cycle to 12 weeks, but in an effort to lighten my post-cycle crash, do you think I could run for 10 weeks only?


3) The anavar/primo stack doesn't seem to be favored, especially since primo is better stacked with a testosterone, which will yield more gains, as well as fending off the erectile dysfunction that would result from an androgen-light primo cycle. I'm gonna be really honest with you, guys, I'm scared of testosterone. I had a bad experience ten years ago where my balls disappeared for a good while. I'm scared of test's sides and the crash. In lieu of test, how do you think a milder drug like equipoise would work? Would it fend off erectile dysfunction like test would?


4) PCT. I will need HCG to jumpstart my natural hormone production. HCG should be started two weeks after my last pin of test & primo, since these drugs are absorbed so slowly. With the introduction of a stronger androgen like test or equipoise to this cycle, I will need an aromatase inhibitor, Arimidex being considered the best of these drugs. Aromatase inhibitors should be taken every day while on-cycle, and for a approximately six-weeks post-cycle.


5) Clomid. Everywhere I read, people are taking an aromatase inhibitor PLUS clomid. Could you explain this to me? I'm confused because it seems like Nolvadex or Arimidex would handle the job alone. Also, I'm getting conflicting information as to whether Clomid should be taken post-cycle only, or should be taken on-cycle AND post-cycle. I especially do not understand the addition of Clomid to a cycle since it seems that the sides are awful.


It doesn't seem to matter much, but I'm running HGH right now and for the next 5 months.


I've got some more research to do regarding the dosing, schedule, and duration of PCT ancillaries.


What I'm really trying to find is a mild cycle, with keepable gains, and low sides. Primobolan depot seems to be the go-to drug for this, but it's making things a little complicated for me, since it's such a weak androgen.


Please tell me what you think.
 
I'm used to natty, and my aim isn't to be a "freak" by any means. I'm running Serostim right now and for the next six months, and I plan to do this cycle while using the HGH. A low-sides cycle where I might be able to avoid post-cycle crash interests me, and that's why this cycle is so light. mrsinister, do you have any real criticism to offer?

TY, Dusteefartz

Age - 29
Height - 5'-10"
Weight - 185
BF - unknown, but on the low side
Lift 6 days a week. Lifted for last 5 years. Diet is on point. Run hard.
Have done (3) Deca and Test C Cycles

Body fat for Var and Primo to work has to be around 10% or less
even 10 % is high
Min 500mg of Primo and 50 mg of Var per day
 
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