Anavar only or with test?

[stevesmi]

^^^ because they think if you run test with an oral it won't 'shut you down' .. they don't realize that test shuts you down too lol. they confuse the word 'test' with testosterone levels the body is producing on its own. when you inject test your body after a couple weeks stops producing test. i know its a weird concept but they don't grasp that for some reason

 

[chints]

^^^ because they think if you run test with an oral it won't 'shut you down' .. they don't realize that test shuts you down too lol. they confuse the word 'test' with testosterone levels the body is producing on its own. when you inject test your body after a couple weeks stops producing test. i know its a weird concept but they don't grasp that for some reason

Yes I've gone quite deep with the understanding of negetive feedback loops..

So in my opinion it's better to go through a temporary phase of unpleasant cycle without Test so that when you come off , you can get your balls rolling quickly.

SARMS seem to be very less suppressive but ain't available in India. .

I'll get some from uk on my next visit and track my test through the cycle.

Thanks.

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[stevesmi]

^^^^ why would an oral only be unpleasant?

thousands of guys have run beastdrol, kata, epi, dbol, var, halo etc etc. by themselves. they made tremendous gains in only 4 or 6 weeks.

 

[chints]

Wow , that's good to learn. I'm surely going to do var only then as my first cycle.

You have the level of info I was looking for , so if you don't mind , I have a different /stupid question for you pls.

I have low T 350-475 , but with just few weeks on clomid 25 it takes me to 800+.

So my question is if I do a clomid only of 50 , my test would surely be around 1100 , won't that be anabolic in itself ?

I asked a top endo this question and he didn't see to have any answer and just said your don't need any.


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[Lighter Fighter]

Anavar only is a great cycle for your goals, you dont need test, test brings in lots of water retention in most people so its counterproductive to your goals, lots of MMA fighter use anavar because it increase collagen synthesis, tremendous strength gains, and great stamina, so its perfect for what you want.
Go with 70mg for 6-8 weeks, now most say its alot for a first timer, its NOT, if you run it alone you need higher dose than if you were to stack it, also most ugl underdose their anavar, because its expensive to produce it, if you have real human grade var then 50mg is enough.

 

[stevesmi]

Wow , that's good to learn. I'm surely going to do var only then as my first cycle.

You have the level of info I was looking for , so if you don't mind , I have a different /stupid question for you pls.

I have low T 350-475 , but with just few weeks on clomid 25 it takes me to 800+.

So my question is if I do a clomid only of 50 , my test would surely be around 1100 , won't that be anabolic in itself ?

I asked a top endo this question and he didn't see to have any answer and just said your don't need any.


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just cause your T levels go over 1000 doesn't magically create anabolism in the body to build muscle like magic. it doesn't work like that. and when you stop the clomid guess what happens to your T levels? yup they crater back down.

also 350-475 isn't low T. its in range. you need to stop making excuses for yourself, thats a copout blaming low T for your problems. if you ate better, worked out harder, and slept better at night your T levels and your muscle building would improve dramatically.

i play poker with a bunch of fat old guys who are on HRT. their T levels are probably 600-800 or so. how come they aren't muscular?

 

[chints]

Ok ,that's cool. My doc also told me that the levels are all right , but you confirming gives me a lot of relief.

So I'm going to do a var only for now followed by a PCT and yes , a harder workout , food and sleep - which my trainer also insists.

Thanks a Ton for your help bro.


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