Anavar and tbol opinions??

[dawgschmps]

im gonna be starting a anavar/tbol 6-7 week cycle soon (havent decided if im going liquid or pill form orals yet). im 21 years old, 200 lbs, 6'1, about 9-10%bf, and my diet is in line (at least during the week haha). Im looking to gain strength and size obviously (im not gonna stop lifting hard), but i sure as hell wanna cut some fat too. any cardio or dosage opinions would be very helpful! thanks alot!

 

[fast_lane]

im gonna be starting a anavar/tbol 6-7 week cycle soon (havent decided if im going liquid or pill form orals yet). im 21 years old, 200 lbs, 6'1, about 9-10%bf, and my diet is in line (at least during the week haha). Im looking to gain strength and size obviously (im not gonna stop lifting hard), but i sure as hell wanna cut some fat too. any cardio or dosage opinions would be very helpful! thanks alot!

dont see the point on doing a t-bol/anavar cycle,they both ave similar results...and if ur looking for mass they arent the best for that they tend more to be good at getting ripped and vascular...U sound like u need to do some research before running gear bro and anyways ur very young to start cyclying,u should wait a couple of years at least and learn until ur ready.

 

[pip88]

are you going to run both var and t-bol? or are you saying you are going to run one or the other?

 

[eliteandy]

Dude, you dont need the gear yet. You're 21 200 lbs @ 10% and full of nat. test! When you stop waking up everyday without a hard on, then start looking into gear. I know these aren't the responses you want want but they are the truth.

 

[dawgschmps]

well either way im pry gonna get at lest the anavar. and about having similar results, what would be good to run with the var then? ive heard that, but ive also talked to people that said its a great, relatively milld cycle(as far as sides go for orals) and that theyve enjoyed it. and what does age have to do with it? i know ive got a lot of free test but that doesnt mean that i wont see results. shit i ran my first dbol ony cycle at 17 (granted i didnt know any better, but my dosage never creeped over 25 mg/day). i know its risky when ur growing, but i take real small doses

 

[pip88]

Dude, you dont need the gear yet. You're 21 200 lbs @ 10% and full of nat. test! When you stop waking up everyday without a hard on, then start looking into gear. I know these aren't the responses you want want but they are the truth.

That statement is completely false.

 

[pip88]

well either way im pry gonna get at lest the anavar. and about having similar results, what would be good to run with the var then? ive heard that, but ive also talked to people that said its a great, relatively milld cycle(as far as sides go for orals) and that theyve enjoyed it. and what does age have to do with it? i know ive got a lot of free test but that doesnt mean that i wont see results. shit i ran my first dbol ony cycle at 17 (granted i didnt know any better, but my dosage never creeped over 25 mg/day). i know its risky when ur growing, but i take real small doses

just run some test with it the var should help you make and keep some hard gains along with getting more veins.

 

[eliteandy]

That statement is completely false.

Care to elaborate?

 

[dawgschmps]

well im not really up to speed with the ins and outs of test like that, i hear it aromatizes real easy, not to mention im not gonna be stickin myself. so i wouldnt feel comfortable doing something im that unfamiliar with

 

[nydj66]

eliteandy is saying that at 21, your serum testosterone levels are already high and that you don't need steroids right now to make great gains. I'm twice your age and I agree with him.

Now, any anabolic steroid you take is either testosterone or a testosterone derivative and if you're taking enough to get more muscle than you could naturally, then your body will stop producing testosterone (after about 3 weeks). This has a strong likelyhood of destroying your libido and causing ED problems. That's why Pip wants you to take testosterone with the anavar. At 21 not being able to get it up for 6 or 7 weeks would suck.

Testosterone does aromatize but that's happening in your body right now; you need estrogen for many of your normal body functions (including libido). If you keep your dosage of testosterone low, then you don't need to fear aromitization.

 

[pip88]

Care to elaborate?

People don't start using aas just because their natural test is down and this guy is not wanting to use it for that reason either. Many use it when they feel they have plateaued physically when working out and are no longer receiving gains. If your a doctor than yes of course they would say that probably the only time to use it or if you have a deficiency and your young. But, 9 times out if 10 people use aas before there dick stops working.

 

[dawgschmps]

^^agree^^ but! how would taking extra test even help? since the roids are already so close to being testosterone, and the whole reason ur nuts shut down is bc so much foreign test is in ur system, how would putting in more foreign test on top of the roids help keep ur nuts working? wouldnt that just give ur nuts more reason to shut down? i can see taking PCT to keep estrogen and test levels close to the same once gear is stopped, but it doesnt make sense to just put more extra test in with roids. maybe im way off, can sum1 plz help me out with that?

 

[nydj66]

^^agree^^ but! how would taking extra test even help? since the roids are already so close to being testosterone, and the whole reason ur nuts shut down is bc so much foreign test is in ur system, how would putting in more foreign test on top of the roids help keep ur nuts working? wouldnt that just give ur nuts more reason to shut down? i can see taking PCT to keep estrogen and test levels close to the same once gear is stopped, but it doesnt make sense to just put more extra test in with roids. maybe im way off, can sum1 plz help me out with that?

Yes your nuts will shut down while on roids.

But even though anavar is close to testosterone, it will not do everything that testosterone does. That's why you want some testosterone included in every cycle that you do.