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ive been doing 10mg of ox a day for about 5 weeks and ive noticed im a lot more aggressive then usual.is did any othet woman here experience this.
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VooDoo Lady
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I had some serious aggression from avavar. I didn't realize how bad it was until I was off of it for a few weeks and it all came into focus for me....I was a nasty, nasty, nasty bitch with NO patience at all..
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wilson6 said:
Exactly what do you mean by this comment? Would you care to elaborate? Are you trying to insinuate that I was using the Anavar as an excuse to be a bitch? Would that be a far interpretation of your comment, Wilson 6?
Is there a possibility that I was having some trouble dealing with the stress in my life, exclusive of the Anavar, and I conveniently blamed the Anavar erroneously? Yes…..I will admit that IS a possibility, but it did coincide directly with the beginning and end of my anavar cycle. Make assumptions as you will, Wilson 6, I already made mine.
Furthermore, is there a possibility that there was test mixed in with the IP Anavar I took, therefore causing my "perceived" increased aggressiveness? Yes, that is a slight possibility as well, but my husband feels pretty strongly that was NOT the case, and the Anavar was not mixed with any other AS.
Would you care to contribute to the conversation, constructively?
VDL
P.S. I know, I know, "it's not personal, it's just business."
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VooDoo Lady
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spatterson said:
To be 100% honest with you, I have no moral dilemma what-so-ever with using AS, so that's NOT a possibility.
I have done other AS cycles (not Anavar) and had no significant increase in aggressiveness, so I had NO preconceived ideas about how Anavar would affect my temperament.
I believe 100% that aggressiveness CAN be brought upon one's self. Do I believe that was the case with my Anavar cycle? No.
hardbdygrl
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i just have road rage,,,,,,,,but i live in florida soo that dosent count,,,,,,,ahhahahha
VooDoo Lady
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Focus people...FOCUS...this is NOT a road rage thread 
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I think a lot of that is mental.....and a state of mind we create ourselves!
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new@gettinbig said:
Not to beat a dead horse or take this thread on as my personal mission, BUT:
It hit me from left field....I didn't even "blame" it on the Anavar until I was off of it for a few weeks and my temperament evened out dramatically...it was then that I put 2 and 2 together.
'nuff said from me on this - I just wanted to get the point across that it really isn't fair to immediately dismiss me, or anyone else who has had a similar experience, as an over-reacting head case.
VDL
I don't think that anyone is labeling anyone a headcase.
I have done a few cycles and have had an unbelievable amount of stress that would cause even the most docile creature to bite the heads of small animals off. Was I more aggressive because of the A/S or because of the situation at hand? Since I really saw no difference in how I dealt w/stress whether off or on I would have to say - NO.
I have done a few cycles and have had an unbelievable amount of stress that would cause even the most docile creature to bite the heads of small animals off. Was I more aggressive because of the A/S or because of the situation at hand? Since I really saw no difference in how I dealt w/stress whether off or on I would have to say - NO.
I like it when you ladies answer your own questions and a simple "whatever" did the trick. So you see, it was a constructive comment.
It is (and I've seen this) entirely possible that your situation stress responses were magnified with the OX. The reason I say whatever is because the few studies of women on OX or other AAS in similar doses may or may not enhance libido, but generally don't increase aggressiveness or what some of you describe on the board.
The issue of aggressiveness and AAS is very complex. In my opinion, there are many other factors that weigh into the psychological responses in this (a lifting) population vs HIV patients, etc. Concurrent use of thermogenics and other drugs, subconscious responses (i.e., I’m on, therefore I’m more aggressive), heavier training, additional stress knowing you’re on and you have to train and eat properly but life isn’t allowing that, thus you respond to the situational stress more, etc., etc., etc. I’ve known enough people who have been on over the years, and the aggressiveness has far more to do with other factors than the steroids themselves. The whole aggressive thing is overblown. One client would always blame the AAS for her aggressive/moody behavior, but with or without the AAS, other issues in her life elicited the problems, she just blamed the AAS because it was convenient. Furthermore, it may be the changes in other hormones while on a cycle (particularly estrogen) that causes the problem, may not be the AAS.
None-the-less, if you are more prone to aggressiveness while you’re on a cycle, either temper your temper, or don’t use AAS.
W6
It is (and I've seen this) entirely possible that your situation stress responses were magnified with the OX. The reason I say whatever is because the few studies of women on OX or other AAS in similar doses may or may not enhance libido, but generally don't increase aggressiveness or what some of you describe on the board.
The issue of aggressiveness and AAS is very complex. In my opinion, there are many other factors that weigh into the psychological responses in this (a lifting) population vs HIV patients, etc. Concurrent use of thermogenics and other drugs, subconscious responses (i.e., I’m on, therefore I’m more aggressive), heavier training, additional stress knowing you’re on and you have to train and eat properly but life isn’t allowing that, thus you respond to the situational stress more, etc., etc., etc. I’ve known enough people who have been on over the years, and the aggressiveness has far more to do with other factors than the steroids themselves. The whole aggressive thing is overblown. One client would always blame the AAS for her aggressive/moody behavior, but with or without the AAS, other issues in her life elicited the problems, she just blamed the AAS because it was convenient. Furthermore, it may be the changes in other hormones while on a cycle (particularly estrogen) that causes the problem, may not be the AAS.
None-the-less, if you are more prone to aggressiveness while you’re on a cycle, either temper your temper, or don’t use AAS.
W6
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spatterson said:
Oh girl! Don't make me get started on those F*****S that drive in the left hand lane! Paragraph one, chapter six, of the Highway Driving Manual: Drive in the RIGHT lane, pass in the LEFT. I don't care if I'm going 125mph, if I'm not passing anyone, my a$$ is in the right hand lane!
That's funny - my manual says KEEP LEFT, PASS RIGHT.
I am being completely honest here, while on my cycle, i had a lot of varying emotional states, even depression. And when i talked about it with other girls on this board, they attested to the same difficulties with their emotions also, so it is not a figment of our imagination, it can trigger certain emotional states and behaviour in my personal opinion. I, as well as other girls, have cleared our heads within a month of coming off a cycle. I think you have to have a clear clear mind and nothing stressful or major going on in your life to do a cycle. Just speaking from experience. pelase take it for what its worth.
You're putting androgens into a system that was not designed for androgens. Put guys on estrogen and they get depressed and irritable. So, yes sex steroids can play a role in behavior and emotion, without question. This has been shown in the literature. However, it is still very complex and with this (bodybuilding) population, there are many confounding/interactive variables. It is the male to female trannys that have most of the problems going from an androgen based to estrogen based system, ditto with guys with prostate cancer put on lupron and estrogen. The females to males put on T have much less psychological morbidity.
Still, it's all what you make of it and it's an individual response, probably related to the dose and drug. Bottom line, if you don't like the psychological issues, then either don't take the AAS or learn to control your emotions. It's all part of the package.
Having said that, I've talked to women who feel much better psychologically on a cycle than off. Furthermore, I'd be willing to bet that for those women who are on year round, they have less psych problems than those who cycle. Jumping back and forth from androgens to estrogens would make a mess of anyones head whereas getting used to an androgen based system (i.e., giving the brain a change to adapt) would probably greatly diminish the effects many of you experience.
Anyone out there that stays on year round like to comment?
This leads to my next question. Why, if so many of you are experiencing negative effects (physical and/or psychological) from AAS, do you continue to take them?
BTW, TV what happened to those lab results?
W6
Still, it's all what you make of it and it's an individual response, probably related to the dose and drug. Bottom line, if you don't like the psychological issues, then either don't take the AAS or learn to control your emotions. It's all part of the package.
Having said that, I've talked to women who feel much better psychologically on a cycle than off. Furthermore, I'd be willing to bet that for those women who are on year round, they have less psych problems than those who cycle. Jumping back and forth from androgens to estrogens would make a mess of anyones head whereas getting used to an androgen based system (i.e., giving the brain a change to adapt) would probably greatly diminish the effects many of you experience.
Anyone out there that stays on year round like to comment?
This leads to my next question. Why, if so many of you are experiencing negative effects (physical and/or psychological) from AAS, do you continue to take them?
BTW, TV what happened to those lab results?
W6
I guess I'm the only one here that actually can feel a change in my body for the better. Why? Because my sex drive increases! That in itself makes me jump out of bed every morning ready to conquer the world. But boy anyone reading this post that may be considering taking any juice may walk away thinking you guys sound like a bunch of 
other than that....not much. i only noticed this on my first cyclw with anna....and only for a few weeks.... then i was fine. maybe it was just my body adjusting. now im a lil 
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