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Alistair Overeem high testosterone levels

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His testosterone ratio tested at 14-to-1, and the average male ratio is 1-to-1. He says an anti-inflammatory caused the spike in his testosterone......

"My doctor prescribed, and I accepted, an anti-inflammatory medication that was mixed with testosterone."

Ummm.... Since when the fuck do anti inflammatories contain testosterone???

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/7...alistair-overeem-apologizes-drug-test-results

I have a very hard time believing this dude is "all natural" and a "clean, drug-free fighter".

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1214/mma_overeem_400.jpg
 
I tried posting a link to the article and a picture of him... Guess that's not allowed here..... You can simply type in his name on google and read about it and look at images of his "natural" body
 
Yeah i thought the same thing. He knew what the hell he was doing, just look at him. If he's all natural then he is the biggest natural freak on the planet lol.

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the biggest surprise was that he took the test.. he shouldve said no thanks and gotten out there..

feel bad for fans who wanted to see that.. feel bad for the kids who looked up to him and stuff like that.. him.. i dont really feel bad for.
 
(go onto ergo-log and it's on the front page, ibuprofin stuff) if he was taking ibuprofin and got blood drawn it is potentially possible given he is lacking an enzyme (many people do) that would skew the levels. Also, who knows if they were prescribing deca or something like that for his joints. Stupid not enough posts...
 
RickRock13 said:
This is no surprise at all. You don't go from competing at 205 to competing at 265 in just a few years natural looking the way he does. He is ridiculously jacked
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don't forget that he was doing MMA/K1 training that whole time, which makes it even harder to put on size. Pretty damn impressive gains even with the undoubtably massive amounts of gear he's on!
 
There was an interview with him at his house a while back. They had asked him how he had transformed his body so well and was able to move up in weight. He said he eats 10 meals a day that consist of meats and rice. Mainly horse meat and that his body matured very well. Both my brother and I laughed when we heard that. It's the same excuse every time when someone gets popped for enhancements in sport. "I didn't know what was in the supp or medication. It was given to me so I took it". Well guess what? It's their job and responsibility to know. See you in a year or two overeem!
 
Na i believe him, he seems like an honest man..i mean the fact that a couple yrs ago he faught at 205 n now he struggles to cut down to 265, that could happen to anyone, especially mma fighters that train n burn as many calories as hard as they do..we all kno that bulking n cutting are easy to do at the same time naturally..i mean and his other missed drug tests in the past, im sure there was a good honest reason..he was prolly busy with charity those days..now u wanna see an mma fight that tries to bulk up that much, they look like shit cuz its so hard to do, look at frank mir when he tried bulking for lesnar, he looked like a gooey marshmallow..but all that aside it was prolly jus some ibuprofen 200's that jacked his test levels, im bettin it was the equate generic brand too



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Regardless of whether he really knew or not is irrelevant. The commission gives each fighter a list of supps that are legal and a list that are illegal. It's also written in their contracts that no matter the case, they are 100% responsible for any illegal substance in their body. Therefor I don't give a shit what anyone says he's guilty of taking an unsanctioned substance. He fights for a living and needs to protect himself in and outside of the ring. And that includes knowing exactly what is in everything he consumes.
 
Whether or not his levels spiked from taking Ibuprofen or what...

The dude isn't natural. Watch him grow over the last couple to 3 years. I mean, I think he's a fucking monster. I'd absolutely hate to fight that guy. I like watching him fight, and would like to continue to see him fight in the UFC. Most of the heavy weights are definitely not natural, it's all about timing for the tests. But come on, he's like 280-290lbs on fight night. Brock cuts to 265 for the weigh ins, and fights at close to 300lbs, too. I don't think anyone would question that Brock juices, either.
 
I mean dam can yall mufukas really not just look at a bro and tell if he's joosn?? ive only done a couple of cycles and that shit is blatant fuckin obvious when i see people that are on joos, there's just a different way your body is built when you joos... mufuka the other day tried to swear on his life john cena was all natural jesus titty fukn christ.. u know who's natural and swole? tim tebow go look how he's built, nuthin like a joosn ngr
 
his hearing is being streamed live now.. his lawyer is kinda a joke.. i think most bros here coulda put forward a better case... but lets see how it turns out for him.
 
Actual there are a ton of anit inflamatories that include steroid hormones, like hydrocortisone, prednisone. NSAID(non steroidal anti inflamatory drugs) would be the other side of that. But come on do you really think a doctor would give him something wthout thinking he was competing professionally in some sport, just look at him.

Plus how many f*in cortisone injctions would it take to get you at 14 to 1? How stupid do they take people for? He must be interested in only th epublics opinion, because anyone with any knowledge of PEDS would not go for that excuse. He should have manned up like Thiago Silva and just admitted it.
 
bigpokey said:
I mean dam can yall mufukas really not just look at a bro and tell if he's joosn?? ive only done a couple of cycles and that shit is blatant fuckin obvious when i see people that are on joos, there's just a different way your body is built when you joos... mufuka the other day tried to swear on his life john cena was all natural jesus titty fukn christ.. u know who's natural and swole? tim tebow go look how he's built, nuthin like a joosn ngr
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Yeah exactly. I can usually tell just by looking at their skin if they are on the juice. Easy to spot everyone at my gym who uses.
 
Mh48500 said:
Actual there are a ton of anit inflamatories that include steroid hormones, like hydrocortisone, prednisone. NSAID(non steroidal anti inflamatory drugs) would be the other side of that. But come on do you really think a doctor would give him something wthout thinking he was competing professionally in some sport, just look at him.

Plus how many f*in cortisone injctions would it take to get you at 14 to 1? How stupid do they take people for? He must be interested in only th epublics opinion, because anyone with any knowledge of PEDS would not go for that excuse. He should have manned up like Thiago Silva and just admitted it.
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Those are corticosteroids. They contain steroid hormones, yes, but they do not contain testosterone.. Which is full in abundance in alistairs body.
 
thirtyOTTsix said:
Na i believe him, he seems like an honest man..i mean the fact that a couple yrs ago he faught at 205 n now he struggles to cut down to 265, that could happen to anyone, especially mma fighters that train n burn as many calories as hard as they do..we all kno that bulking n cutting are easy to do at the same time naturally..i mean and his other missed drug tests in the past, im sure there was a good honest reason..he was prolly busy with charity those days..now u wanna see an mma fight that tries to bulk up that much, they look like shit cuz its so hard to do, look at frank mir when he tried bulking for lesnar, he looked like a gooey marshmallow..but all that aside it was prolly jus some ibuprofen 200's that jacked his test levels, im bettin it was the equate generic brand too



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I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic lol. Hopefully sarcastic...
 
dye1337 said:
(go onto ergo-log and it's on the front page, ibuprofin stuff) if he was taking ibuprofin and got blood drawn it is potentially possible given he is lacking an enzyme (many people do) that would skew the levels. Also, who knows if they were prescribing deca or something like that for his joints. Stupid not enough posts...
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Any doctor that valued their career wouldn't prescribe deca to a professional athlete for joints or to anyone for that matter.

No way ibuprofen would spike the test level 13 times above normal.
 
said it was shots of ibuprofen and aquatest.. hmm that actually sounds like a nice cycle..
 
I dont think any of the pro fighters/athletes are clean, I believe all of them have tried a few shots or pills of something at one point or another. I have heard that guys in the NHL like short, stout cycles of test suspension because it clears very quickly for monthly testing. If you look at the shape alot of the bigger MMA fighters are in, its pretty crazy. Tim Silvia, Sean Sherk, Chael Sonnen, all testes positive for juice, deca was what got them because of the super long detection time (Silvia and Sherk that is) makes you wonder what secrets everyone else is hiding???
 
Gents, he got popped. The excuses are great but all said and done he didn't have his levels properly lowered or a substitute urine sample readily available. Its obvious he juices. He was good at lhw and became a wrecking ball of muscle at hw. He made brock look like a bitch and probably would've beaten jds. I dont think there is any top hw that is a stranger to juicing, they just know the system better.

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jds is joosd the fuk up no fukn doubt about that one, cain is probably not tho..cain's prolly the only non-joosd hw champ that will ever be
 
Disagree about cain. He's juiced. Look at his nips. Josh barnett is a perfect example of juicing for strength and endurance rather than physique. He also has some bitch titties

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man those nips could easily be natural, just looks like normal flat bodied messican to me..but i don't doubt it all, jus sayin he's the only hw you could even argue is natural, cept maybe fat body big country roy.. maybe a couple others, they should just let the muthafuckas joos honestly fuk it, they doin it anyways.. id like to know if a natural fighter would even stand a chance against joosers, there's gotta be atleast a couple advantages to training natural

maybe just let the fighters decide if they want to to drug test each other when they agree to the fight?
 
I can't argue w/ that. Its just cains unstoppable gastank that has one question his juicing.

I agree, they should be allowed to juice, they're doing it anyways just let a grown man be a grown man. That way there aren't any surprises. And for the guys who don't juice they can feel good about themselves in a world full of 'cheaters'.

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they should not be allowed to juice. they need to be randomly tested.

if you institute random testing there would be much less horseplay going on. institute a policy where you have to be subject to random testing for 1 year before any title fight.

what has really changed my mind on this.. KIDS LITTLE KIDS who look up to these guys.
 
not sure about other sports but in the NFL thanks to the very strong union NFLPA that players are required to join when they enter the NFL, the players recieve ample notice ahead of time when their test are taking place. so they can get clean well ahead of the test.

i've read the NHL has an even more powerful union, hell 30% of their salary gets paid into it or some crazy number and its considered blasphemy to even bring it up.

so i think that these 'tests' are done just to make things look legit but in reality its very easy to use gear in these pro leagues and get away with it.
 
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I gotta get me some horse meat! seriously though if you take in to account how much cardio he does basically on a daily basis, you have to assume he isn't natty, but like some in this thread I really don't care, most of them are on something for a variety of reasons.
 
stevesmi said:
not sure about other sports but in the NFL thanks to the very strong union NFLPA that players are required to join when they enter the NFL, the players recieve ample notice ahead of time when their test are taking place. so they can get clean well ahead of the test.

i've read the NHL has an even more powerful union, hell 30% of their salary gets paid into it or some crazy number and its considered blasphemy to even bring it up.

so i think that these 'tests' are done just to make things look legit but in reality its very easy to use gear in these pro leagues and get away with it.
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that's complete bullshit they're subject to random tests for steroids at any time during the season, they do however know when they will be tested for recreational drugs at the beginning of the year and don't have to pass random rec drug tests as long as they pass the initial one
 
I havent read the whole page, but if anyone think overeem is natural is one retarded, naive, stupid, deluded man..
His excuses are he eats 8 meals a day, and he eats lots of horse meat, and my favorite is the genetic excuse which he brought up in an interview..
I dont give a fuk how hard you workout how much you eat you cannot get that big by just eating and training..
The best part is he's not a bodybuilder, he's goal is fighting not bodybuilding,, so he probably doesnt have the time to train like a bodybuilder and do 1 hour of cardio everyday and still train for his upcoming fight, lol, dude is a fuking joke... He's one roided son of a bitch..
 
okay, I know nothing about the sport--not my thing--but I looked at a pic of the guy--and others in his weight class--ummm, barring a concentration of the worlds best genetics, none of the heavy weight are natty--maybe now, but not in earlier years...please the one guy was 6'2" 255 and pretty cut--was his momma a frekin rhino?
 
Whats the big deal fuck almost all are on things and i doubt is running that much gear compared to a bodybuilder definately good genetics to top it off. Steroids can really hurt perfornance because of pumps and endurance, off season when bulked sure ran more but otherwise just run low dose mostly for recovery and maintain stength.
 
its a big deal because not everyone is on.. its cool to say and a lot of people just looked a jacked up dudes who are in shape and say.... ohhhhh they must be on.. not true.. this 90% of the people are on.. 80% of the people are on is a complete bs number

its a big deal because this is a huge growing sport and again kids watch this and look up to them. they start to think that roids are the only way to be a champ..

and this isnt baseball. these guys are trying to KO each other and rip arms off.. the field needs to be as level as possible..
 
I can't believe anyone is surprised by this. You don't gain 50 lbs of musclee just because you matured nicely.

didn't he miss a test before the Lesnar fight because "his mom was sick"?
 
There is definitely more "on" than you think. I've seen the few times I've looked that one or two people fail the random drug tests after the fights and it shows up on the UFC website. It's like people don't want their heroes to be on steroids. But it is very hard to think they are drug free at 280 pounds of rock hard muscle. Well, obviously, that's juice. 100% impossible naturally. Show me a natty person under 6'4" that's 10% BF @ 280 pounds, and I'll show you someone who didn't get caught drug tested.

And you don't have to look like a roid user to be a roid user. American sports are full of steroid users. We may not want to submit our kids to this kind of culture, but it IS there.
 
All In a Year said:
I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic lol. Hopefully sarcastic...
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Haha ya im def not serious lol..jus tryin to make a point how obvious it was to anyone whos looked at him, hav seen him over the past few yrs, or hav looked at his history of missing drug test..wouldnt that b cool tho if we could jus go to walmart n buy some ibuprofen 200's n jus get nasty test levels from it


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zwhit said:
I can't believe anyone is surprised by this. You don't gain 50 lbs of musclee just because you matured nicely.

didn't he miss a test before the Lesnar fight because "his mom was sick"?
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Haha ya he's missed more than one if my memory serves me right..but it was prolly legit, he seems honest..or mayb he had jus taken some ibuprofen for a headache n didn't wanna risk his test levels goin up cuz of that..either way im sure he wouldnt lie to help his career

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