Advice needed

[Muz92]

Well I am about to start my very first cycle by the end of this month, I did quite a lot of research on my own and within the forum itself, great place to learn BTW, so thing is I opted for 6weeks Dbol at 20-30mg ED..testE 250mg EW with proviron alongside to keep Gyno away(to be on the safe side, avoid water retention and keep muscle hard) and nolva for pct..BUT I came across tren..well everybody have different opinions and personal exp with that so would it worth it if a change my current opted stack for testE and tren ?
Peace out


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[littleb]

Slow down brother, first cycle do notttttt need all that... first off how old are you? what are your stats? how long have you been lifting? most bros on here will not even answer you without those questions answered and for good reason......
Look i know regardless of what is said you are probably going to go ahead, so do not use all that stuff... test only, 250-500mg a week THATS IT... I would not have a problem with the proviron at 25-50 mgs a day but avoid d ball and tren and anything else on first cycle, and have an AI ON HAND, NOLVA for sure and a well planned out pct in hand b4 you do a thing.. start slowwwww. and use one compound at a time to see how your body reacts...

 

[STTM]

Proviron is not an AI. Make sure you have aromasin or arimidex before you start, and run it from the beginning.

Either do a DBol only cycle for 4-6 weeks, or Run Test E for 12 weeks with DBol the first 4 weeks.

You should run the AI all the way through PCT.

 

[getbulk]

I wish I would have done this for my first but try to only run one compound such as Test so you can see how your body reacts w/ it. Everyone is completely different so you almost have to experiment and see what works. Always have everything you need on hand before starting or you could be in a world of hurt.

What is your stats? Age, weight, etc.

 

[Muz92]

Slow down brother, first cycle do notttttt need all that... first off how old are you? what are your stats? how long have you been lifting? most bros on here will not even answer you without those questions answered and for good reason......

Look i know regardless of what is said you are probably going to go ahead, so do not use all that stuff... test only, 250-500mg a week THATS IT... I would not have a problem with the proviron at 25-50 mgs a day but avoid d ball and tren and anything else on first cycle, and have an AI ON HAND, NOLVA for sure and a well planned out pct in hand b4 you do a thing.. start slowwwww. and use one compound at a time to see how your body reacts...

Well I appreciate the advice bro..since you guys have tried if you told me not to go for it, obviously I won't . I'm 22 been lifting for past 4 years serious lifting all natural body fat around 10% and 80kg.


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[RickRock13]

You are on the right track for your first cycle, but you need to change some things. Proviron is not an AI, even though it has anti estrogen properties. It's not enough to control estrogen for cycle, especially with Dbol and Test in there. Your test should be a bit higher, to see more benefit. PCT needs much more as well to ensure proper recovery. Here is a perfect setup for you

1-12 Test E 350mg per week
1-4 Dbol 30mg per day
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (AG Guys)
1-12 N2guard
1-12 HCGenerate

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 or Phytoserms (PM me or see threads below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

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[Muz92]

I wish I would have done this for my first but try to only run one compound such as Test so you can see how your body reacts w/ it. Everyone is completely different so you almost have to experiment and see what works. Always have everything you need on hand before starting or you could be in a world of hurt.

What is your stats? Age, weight, etc.

I thought I'd do some more gains with the Dbol along..I haven't purchased them yet so I'm not in a hurry to jump into it either..seeking to learn more from you guys.
I'm 22yo, 80kg with 10% body fat no bloating or Gyno issue just a little water retention due to sodium intake that's it.


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[Muz92]

You are on the right track for your first cycle, but you need to change some things. Proviron is not an AI, even though it has anti estrogen properties. It's not enough to control estrogen for cycle, especially with Dbol and Test in there. Your test should be a bit higher, to see more benefit. PCT needs much more as well to ensure proper recovery. Here is a perfect setup for you

1-12 Test E 350mg per week
1-4 Dbol 30mg per day
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD (AG Guys)
1-12 N2guard
1-12 HCGenerate

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Test Stack 17 or Phytoserms (PM me or see threads below for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

Use RickRock10 at N2BM for 10% off

Can I substitute aromasin for A.dex?
What are the purpose of the N2guard and hcg..? Take them ED..?
That is hardcore though..!
Thanks bro


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[RickRock13]

Can I substitute aromasin for A.dex?
What are the purpose of the N2guard and hcg..? Take them ED..?
That is hardcore though..!
Thanks bro


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You can use adex on cycle, but aromasin is preferred in PCT because it increases free test, IGF levels, and lowers SHBG making it perfect for recovery.

N2guard is a complete cycle support needed on cycle to protect your health and liver while running AAS.

HCGenerate is there to stimulate LH, to keep your testes functioning and keep them from atrophy on cycle, thus minimizing shutdown.

Both N2guard and HCGenerate are taken daily

 

[Muz92]

You can use adex on cycle, but aromasin is preferred in PCT because it increases free test, IGF levels, and lowers SHBG making it perfect for recovery.



N2guard is a complete cycle support needed on cycle to protect your health and liver while running AAS.



HCGenerate is there to stimulate LH, to keep your testes functioning and keep them from atrophy on cycle, thus minimizing shutdown.



Both N2guard and HCGenerate are taken daily

At what dosage should 1 run adex during cycle and aromasin for pct..?
Nolva and aromasin for pct will that be ok..?


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