advanced user - 24 week blast - body recomp - thoughts welcome!

[oldschoolbighomie]

First, let me introduce myself briefly.
I have been a long time reader on many forums, and used to post quite a lot back in the days of dial up internet. Back in my younger days, I was an aspiring body builder with the goals of going pro. After years of competing, I decided I was chasing a fools dream, so I just started lifting for myself and my own personal goals. I will still step on stage here and there, but have not done a show in 2 years now. Though I never achieved my goal of going pro, I still have made a pretty good name for myself in the world of body building. Maybe not a household name, but enough where I have managed to live a comfortable lifestyle doing what I love. Currently, I am a personal trainer. I also work part time as a prep coach for a few clients. I do that more as a hobby than a job though.
Throughout my years of body building, I have used pretty much every performance enhancing drug imaginable, and mixed and matched them into every kind of stack. My next cycle I put together is based on my experience and knowledge. Everything I am using is serves a certain purpose to help maximize my goals. I want to know what you guys think. This is the biggest cycle I have ran in a couple years. For the past year or so I have mainly been running a mix of sarms and peptides with my TRT regimen.
Now a days, I try to remain lean year round. Starting stats are 35, 5'7, 205, with single digit body fat. Goal for my cycle is to add mass, and then shred up at the end. It will be a 24 week blast with a lot of different drugs. AAS, Peptides, GH, Slin, Sarms, and other research chems will all be included. Here is what I call the total recomp stack. Let me know what you think.

Bulking Stage:
1-12 Test E 500mg
1-12 Equipiose 600mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
1-4 & 9-12 Anadrol 50mg/day

Shred Stage:
13-24 Test E 250mg
13-20 Equipiose 600mg
13-24 Tren E 300mg
13-24 Primo 400mg
13-24 Mast E 500mg
21-24 Winstrol 50mg/day

Sarms:
1-16 LGD-4033 10mg/day
13-24 S-4: 50mg/day
13-24 GW-50 20mg/day

Peptides:
1-24 CJC-1295 100mcg 3x/day
1-24 GHRP-2 200mcg 3x/day
1-24 IGF-1 LR3 100mcg

Other:
1-24 HGH 8iu/day
1-24 T4 150mcg/day
1-24 Humulog 10iu/day
19-24 Clen 60mcg/day

Support:
1-24 Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/day
1-24 Prami .5mg/day
1-24 Proviron 75mg/day

Everything is weekly dosages, unless stated. I think you guys can figure out what is what. Couple of notes to in case something is unclear.
Bulking stage is first 12 weeks which includes Test, EQ, Deca, and Anadrol. This stage is kicked and capped with Anadrol to keep forcing growth.
Cutting stage begins at week 13, Test dosage is lowered and Deca is dropped. Then Tren, Primo, and Mast are added. EQ is dropped at week 20 because it still holds water. Winstrol added when EQ is dropped.
Running CJC-1295 with GHRP-2 the entire time. Will most likely take a week or 2 off sometime during the cycle. IGF-1 LR3 is ran 4 weeks on and off, alternating that with the Slin.
8iu of generic GH the entire cycle with 150mcg of T4 to maintain proper thyroid function. Slin is used 4 weeks on and off, alternating with the IGF-1.
Support includes Aromasin, Prami, and Proviron. Pretty simple. I will also be using N2Guard the entire cycle, with Tudca, and other natural supps for overall health. I get bloods done every 4 weeks to check overall health and everything else that goes with cycling.
After Cycle, I will go back on my TRT regimen which consists of 100mg Test C every 5 days, .5mg adex 2x/week, and 4iu of GH. I will also add in 20mg daily of Nolva, with 500iu weekly of HCG for 6 weeks. I will continue the peptides and add in MK-2877, TB-500, and Cialis for an extended period.
All questions and comments on this are welcome. Looking forward to hearing what you guys think, and maybe talking and debating about things. In this game, you can never know too much. I hope to add a solid 6-8 pounds on this cycle, and maybe look at getting on stage again this time come next year.
Sorry for the long post. Again, I look forward to hearing from you all.

 

[TheKid7]

I'm running something similar next run but I don't like EQ and Deca in the same cycle, in fact you can remove the deca entirely if you are running peps + GH. You think you'll actually be able to cut when running those peps in the shred phase with GH ? They make me hungry as fuck but I love the primo + winny thats what I'm doing and instead of my typical peps im just gonna run CJC 1295+ IPA before bed for added GH benefits without the hunger. Would probably up the Mast dosage if possible and run the winny 6-7 weeks IMO. Sorry I didn't read your bottom paragraph just looking at the cycle. 9-12 anadrol is not needed IMO esp because you'll be kicking in that S4 a few weeks after

 

[oldschoolbighomie]

I'm running something similar next run but I don't like EQ and Deca in the same cycle, in fact you can remove the deca entirely if you are running peps + GH. You think you'll actually be able to cut when running those peps in the shred phase with GH ? They make me hungry as fuck but I love the primo + winny thats what I'm doing and instead of my typical peps im just gonna run CJC 1295+ IPA before bed for added GH benefits without the hunger. Would probably up the Mast dosage if possible and run the winny 6-7 weeks IMO. Sorry I didn't read your bottom paragraph just looking at the cycle. 9-12 anadrol is not needed IMO esp because you'll be kicking in that S4 a few weeks after

Thanks for the reply bro. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Now this is where I start my rebuttal to explain things.
In my years of experience with AAS, I have found that you just cannot bulk without Deca. So if I were to choice between Deca and EQ, it would be Deca every time. Using Deca at the beginning and dropping it half way through the cycle also helps so to keep the joints feeling nice when you start introducing the DHT compounds that dry you out. The EQ is used basically to give a nice stackable compound with Test. As far as the Anadrol, it is typical for me to run Anadrol or Dbol 4 weeks off/on throughout and entire cycle while bulking. But I see your point, adding it from weeks 9-12 would be a bit redundant.
The peptides and GH do not effect my hunger too much. Even when I am cutting, I still am consuming a good amount of food. GH and the peptides will also allow you to eat more, and be able to stay lean, and lean out more.
+1 on your recommendation to up the Mast dosage. I usually run it at 800mg week, but wanted to give a lower dose a try. Figured the combination of Test, Primo, Tren, Mast, and Winny would provide an extremely hard physique. So I don't want to overdue it with anything.
Again, thanks for the reply. I look forward to your response.

 

[hurricane]

looks intense.Keep us updated bro.You seem to have experience, so i not going to debate it.Its more intense then cycles i run to be perfectly honest.Also seems EXPENSIVE as fuck lol

just curious how much is a cycle like this running you?

 

[TheKid7]

Thanks for the reply bro. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Now this is where I start my rebuttal to explain things.
In my years of experience with AAS, I have found that you just cannot bulk without Deca. So if I were to choice between Deca and EQ, it would be Deca every time. Using Deca at the beginning and dropping it half way through the cycle also helps so to keep the joints feeling nice when you start introducing the DHT compounds that dry you out. The EQ is used basically to give a nice stackable compound with Test. As far as the Anadrol, it is typical for me to run Anadrol or Dbol 4 weeks off/on throughout and entire cycle while bulking. But I see your point, adding it from weeks 9-12 would be a bit redundant.
The peptides and GH do not effect my hunger too much. Even when I am cutting, I still am consuming a good amount of food. GH and the peptides will also allow you to eat more, and be able to stay lean, and lean out more.
+1 on your recommendation to up the Mast dosage. I usually run it at 800mg week, but wanted to give a lower dose a try. Figured the combination of Test, Primo, Tren, Mast, and Winny would provide an extremely hard physique. So I don't want to overdue it with anything.
Again, thanks for the reply. I look forward to your response.

I hear you man deca is still a great compound just not to be fucked with obviously, I actually had a good cut cycle with deca once haha who does that.. If healing and joints is a concern I mean obviously your running HGH and could add another peptide in with the cjc ghrp for added healing I forget name off top of my head. If you are running winny right as a finisher you could consider added ostarine to your PCT for it's healing benefits as well. I'm not a fan of prami although it does help me sleep on tren but thats preference of course. Lay out your bottom paragraph like you did your cycle so I can read it lol

 

[oldschoolbighomie]

looks intense.Keep us updated bro.You seem to have experience, so i not going to debate it.Its more intense then cycles i run to be perfectly honest.Also seems EXPENSIVE as fuck lol

just curious how much is a cycle like this running you?

The gear is rather cheap. It is the GH, Peptides, and Sarms that really add to the price tag. I would estimate all of this would be around $7500, half of that being GH. Buying in bulk helps cut down the cost a bit.

 

[oldschoolbighomie]

I hear you man deca is still a great compound just not to be fucked with obviously, I actually had a good cut cycle with deca once haha who does that.. If healing and joints is a concern I mean obviously your running HGH and could add another peptide in with the cjc ghrp for added healing I forget name off top of my head. If you are running winny right as a finisher you could consider added ostarine to your PCT for it's healing benefits as well. I'm not a fan of prami although it does help me sleep on tren but thats preference of course. Lay out your bottom paragraph like you did your cycle so I can read it lol

Deca is actually a great compound to cut with. It is rather anabolic so it really helps to hold mass and keep you full. The only downside is that water, which can be controlled. NPP would be better for cutting.
It is a mix of healing joints, and just keeping them well lubricated. Just makes you feel better.
After cycle I will be going back on my TRT regimen. I plan to add Osta and TB-500 to that. Bottom paragraph was what I will do for PCT/TRT. Looks like this.
100mg Test C e5d
.5mg Adex 2x/week
4iu HGH
20mg/day Nolva 6 weeks
500iu/week HCG 6 weeks
And then Osta, TB-500, and Cialis added. Also will keep running the peptides.

 

[TheKid7]

Deca is actually a great compound to cut with. It is rather anabolic so it really helps to hold mass and keep you full. The only downside is that water, which can be controlled. NPP would be better for cutting.
It is a mix of healing joints, and just keeping them well lubricated. Just makes you feel better.
After cycle I will be going back on my TRT regimen. I plan to add Osta and TB-500 to that. Bottom paragraph was what I will do for PCT/TRT. Looks like this.
100mg Test C e5d
.5mg Adex 2x/week
4iu HGH
20mg/day Nolva 6 weeks
500iu/week HCG 6 weeks
And then Osta, TB-500, and Cialis added. Also will keep running the peptides.

Seems like you got it mapped out nicely, hardest part of long cycles like this is when its ending haha

 

[RickRock13]

I think it all looks great for what you propose to do bro. I'm getting ready to start a similar strategy in a couple weeks that will be 8 weeks of Test/NPP to bulk followed by 8 weeks of Test/Tren/Mast Winny to cut. Sarms will be used as well. I'm starting with LGD and finishing with S4 and GW all from sarms1.

Good luck to you and keep us updated

 

[oldschoolbighomie]

I think it all looks great for what you propose to do bro. I'm getting ready to start a similar strategy in a couple weeks that will be 8 weeks of Test/NPP to bulk followed by 8 weeks of Test/Tren/Mast Winny to cut. Sarms will be used as well. I'm starting with LGD and finishing with S4 and GW all from sarms1.

Good luck to you and keep us updated

Sounds like a killer stack, almost identical. Cycles set up this way are a great way to maximize muscle growth, then have plenty of time to shred up and polish off everything at the end. Should be a killer run.
You have an experience with peptides? They make a great addition to any cycle. The increased Growth Hormone and IGF-1 levels you get from them allow you to use less AAS with even better results.