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Adam Archuleta workout routine

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The Athlete’s Edge
‘Evo’lutionary training: Archuleta explodes past his competition
By Nolan Nawrocki, Contributing writer

Working out in front of NFL scouts in Indianapolis this past February, St. Louis Rams first-round draft pick Adam Archuleta posted some of the most impressive results for a safety in the 17-year history of the NFL Draft Combine. The 6-foot, 211-pound Archuleta ran a 4.42 40, had a 39-inch vertical jump and bench-pressed 225 pounds 31 times.

The reason Archuleta was drafted with the 20th pick in the 2001 NFL draft was no accident. Archuleta’s numbers are the result of years of sweat and training in preparation for this opportunity. As a 172-pound high school junior, Archuleta became intrigued by an article written by Jay Schroeder, founder of Evo-Sport, and felt compelled to contact him.

Schroeder developed Evo-Sport based on a principle that is widely regarded in strength and conditioning literature but rarely practiced — plyometrics. Nearly every part of the program involves absorbing and rapidly propelling force.

Rather than perform a standard bench press, Schroeder teaches athletes to explode through the movement, release the bar from their hands at the top of the lift, drop their hands to their chests, catch and explode back into the bar as fast as possible. Schroeder keeps his hands ready at all times, watching athletes to make sure they catch the bar.

What impresses Schroeder about Archuleta’s ability to bench-press 530 pounds is not the sheer mass being moved, but that it is moved in 1.09 seconds. Force on the football field is the product of mass and acceleration. Traditional weightlifting programs concentrate on moving mass regardless of how much an athlete struggles to perform the lift. Schroeder emphasizes performing lifts quickly, which increases the amount of force produced and has turned Archuleta into a havoc-wreaking machine on the football field.

When Archuleta began the Evo-Sport program, he benched 265 pounds in 2.76 seconds in the concentric or ascending phase of the lift. He squatted 273 in 3.47 seconds, ran the 40 in 4.79-4.81 and had a 26-inch vertical jump. Today, his personal best in the bench press is 530 pounds in 1.09 seconds and in the squat, 663 pounds in 1.24 seconds. At an individual workout for NFL scouts, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37 seconds and jumped 39 inches vertically.

As a walk-on football player at Arizona State, Archuleta quickly earned a scholarship and became Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year last season as a senior. In his five years at ASU, Archuleta trained with Schroeder in addition to completing the workout program the rest of his team performed.

"The will to prepare for success is more important than the will for success," Schroeder said. "If you want to be the best football player or the best safety or the best center or the best bench presser, then be willing to work that hard, not just put in the same work that everyone else is putting in."

Archuleta said he paced himself through ASU’s workouts so he could concentrate on Schroeder’s program.

"You could jump and you could exercise all day long, but that doesn’t mean you are going to get any better," Archuleta said. "Everyone squats and everybody runs and everybody jumps and everybody benches, but it’s the way that you do it. There’s no secret exercise. It’s the way it’s applied. And that’s where Jay’s expertise comes in."

While Archuleta was accustomed to receiving compliments for his football prowess in high school, Schroeder challenged Archuleta. Schroeder evaluated how Archuleta compared with other athletes and gave him a program to complete before he would agree to work with him. After Archuleta showed signs of progress over several months, Schroeder welcomed him into his gym. Not long afterward, he kicked Archuleta out for not working hard enough and told him not to come back. The next day, Archuleta showed up and waited in the doorway of Schroeder’s office while he completed office work. After ignoring him for more than an hour, Schroeder told him, "All right, let’s work out."

"He challenged me to come in here every day, and he really put me through some beat-down workouts," Archuleta said. "He really tested my intestinal fortitude and really taught me what it was like to work hard. He put me through a lot of tests and was constantly trying to teach me and mold me and get me to understand what it took to be a good athlete and what kind of sacrifices it was going to take."

A key component of Schroeder’s program is repetition. Typical football programs train each body part twice a week and allow ample opportunity for rest. In Schroeder’s program, athletes might train the chest 12 times a week. His clients usually exercise twice a day, six days a week. Football players use their muscles constantly during a week in practice and games. Why should their weight-room preparation be any different?

A typical chest workout for Archuleta involves 100-300 repetitions with weight varying between 225 and 275 pounds. Schroeder gives Archuleta a set number to perform, and he must perform the concentric phase of each lift in less than a quarter of a second. If he doesn’t explode fast enough, the repetition does not count toward the prescribed goal for that day. For every 15 reps he completes, he has to do one to three supermaximal reps from 500 to 600 pounds on his own.

Many strength experts would argue that Schroeder’s intense program neglects recovery time, decreases strength and increases injuries, all of which are symptomatic of overtraining. However, Schroeder says his program is specifically designed to overtrain an athlete.

"We try to overtrain to a 3 to 7 percent deficit on purpose," Schroeder said. "The longer we can maintain that level, the greater the supercompensatory effect is later on. If we go deeper in the overtraining than that, it sets us way back, but if we go at 3 to 7 percent, we maintain great results."

The game of football is played in 45-second spurts. On an average play, an athlete expends his energy fully for five to 10 seconds, followed by a 35- to 40-second rest. A series usually lasts anywhere from three to 15 consecutive plays. A long series of plays leaves most players gasping for air and eager to hit the sideline for water and rest. Compared to the stress placed on an athlete in Schroeder’s workouts, he believes a 15-play series is relatively easy.

Several NFL players have begun Schroeder’s program, only to leave the gym after 10 minutes and never return. Schroeder assumes they left because it was too difficult.

"It’s not for the faint of heart," Schroeder said. "It’s very difficult training, both the mental and emotional training. We’ll bench sometimes 12 to 15 times a week. People aren’t mentally and emotionally in tune to doing that. So just the sheer repetition of heavy, fast moving of loads is enough to make you tough. Someone like Adam, he can go out and run near his max speed many, many, many times even under duress."

While Archuleta’s strength coaches at ASU did not like him consulting professionals outside of their supervision, Archuleta is a firm believer in Schroeder’s program.

"(ASU coaches) didn’t like what we were doing and tried to make excuses that it wasn’t good for me and blah, blah, blah and whatever," Archuleta said. "The results don’t lie. And the kind of football player that was made doesn’t lie either. So people have egos, and people get jealous, but I mean, the bottom line is what’s happening. Am I getting results? Am I getting better? Am I a better football player? Am I getting less injured? Am I stronger? Am I faster? That’s the bottom line, and that’s all I’m interested in."

Archuleta is not the only athlete seeing results. Schroeder trains Arizona Cardinals WR Rob Moore and QB Chris Greisen, San Francisco 49ers TE Brian Jennings and Kansas City Chiefs TE Troy Drayton, in addition to many champion powerlifters, college softball players and other clients aged 4 to 82.

Upon seeing Archuleta’s successful results from Evo-Sport, his agent, Gary Wichard, began referring other clients to Schroeder. It took one visit to the gym to convince Rob Moore of the value in Schroeder’s program. As an 11-year veteran wide receiver, Moore has gained nearly 100 pounds on his bench press in five months and is now benching 425.

According to Wichard, Schroeder’s training is certainly evolutionary, as the title Evo-Sport infers.

"I’ve never seen anything as football-oriented as this kind of training," Wichard said. "Everything is done with speed. I’m talking about lifting 500 pounds with speed. Don’t give me pretty-boy bench presses that are slow. He doesn’t even count those. You have to explode. If you watch Adam’s game on the field, his game is about explosion and force, and that is what Jay is teaching."

While Schroeder’s program is innovative, the fundamental principle of his teaching will always remain the same. It is best demonstrated by the words of his protégé, Archuleta:

"I just try to go to bed every night with the attitude that nobody put in more time or worked as hard as me that day."
 
To each his own. Its an interesting concept, explosive training to that extreme of a degree, but it seems to me that you can't really compare lifts completed there to lifts completed by power lifters and others alike. Along those same lines I dont see how you can compare strength in that sense with the prevailing idea of strength on here. Id be curious to see what someone on that program lifted doing something like a 4:2 timing (or something longer than a second and a half).

The way he describes the deficit (fatigue) part of the program almost sounds like he's about to get into dual factor...and i wouldnt be surprised if he did have some sort of variation of that.

Again though, whatever works.
 
My friend who lives down the street from me is his cousin. He knows im into working out and gave me the DVD. His cousin is a beast. I think he can bench about 550 lbs if I'm correct. Didnt read the whole post. The DVD is pretty good, very inspirational. We gather at his house for Sunday games. Adam chipped his tooth playing this year and his cousin gave him shit for it at a family reunion in St. Louis. His cousin also freaked out when Adam dropped a game winning interception in the Playoffs this year. I do realize most of you wont believe me but I do live in Richmond, his cousin Henry attends JMU and is one of my good friends.
 
DT that is an awesome post! Very excellent!

I actually just started reading Science and Practice of Strength Training by Vladimir Zatsiorsky, and this training is totally dead-on with those ideas. Incredible to combine dynamic work and maximum work with such intensity. Seriously great article. Let the peanut gallery say what they will; k comin' to ya!
 
i have a very hard time believing that Archuleta can bench press 530, i live in St. Louis and this guy is SKINNY he looks to weigh about 180
 
daverelli said:
i have a very hard time believing that Archuleta can bench press 530, i live in St. Louis and this guy is SKINNY he looks to weigh about 180

Says 211 lbs in the article
 
daverelli said:
i have a very hard time believing that Archuleta can bench press 530, i live in St. Louis and this guy is SKINNY he looks to weigh about 180


Well have you actually seen him in person? If not, of course he will look 'small' next to linemen. He can do it, get the DVD. They dont think he's one of the best conditioned safety's for no reason.
 
you're saying that he bench pressed 530 on the DVD? if that's so, that would make him one of the strongest 210 pounders in the entire world, sure you wanna go that far? the only way that i would believe that he could bench that is if i got to load the weights on the bar personally, just to show you how unbelievable that is Coleman did a HARD 5 reps with 495 on his newest video and he was offseason 310 lbs., in an e-mail he said the most he had ever done with 5 plates was 8 reps, so you're telling me that a kid who looks like a skater can do just about the same, i'm sorry but that's bullshit.
 
daverelli said:
you're saying that he bench pressed 530 on the DVD? if that's so, that would make him one of the strongest 210 pounders in the entire world, sure you wanna go that far? the only way that i would believe that he could bench that is if i got to load the weights on the bar personally, just to show you how unbelievable that is Coleman did a HARD 5 reps with 495 on his newest video and he was offseason 310 lbs., in an e-mail he said the most he had ever done with 5 plates was 8 reps, so you're telling me that a kid who looks like a skater can do just about the same, i'm sorry but that's bullshit.


First off, he trains for strength and speed I do believe and not size like Ronnie. Second, he doesnt look like a skater. If you would do reasearch you would see his neck is bigger than your leg. Do your research before you automatically dismiss something as erroneous.
 
daverelli said:
you're saying that he bench pressed 530 on the DVD? if that's so, that would make him one of the strongest 210 pounders in the entire world, sure you wanna go that far? the only way that i would believe that he could bench that is if i got to load the weights on the bar personally, just to show you how unbelievable that is Coleman did a HARD 5 reps with 495 on his newest video and he was offseason 310 lbs., in an e-mail he said the most he had ever done with 5 plates was 8 reps, so you're telling me that a kid who looks like a skater can do just about the same, i'm sorry but that's bullshit.

If it's on the video, I don't see how you could doubt that. Maybe he's wearing a bench shirt???
 
so his neck is 28 inches around now at 210, hahaha, does he wear a cape and leap tall buildings in a single bound too? i live in St. Louis and have seen this guy in interviews and he literally looks like he is 185 lbs. i work out in a gym where a local sportcaster who used to play in the NFL trains and i asked him one time about Archuleta's "supposed" ability to bench over 500lbs. and he literally started laughing, and this isn't coming from some pencilneck newbie this guy is 6'3" 255
 
I'm with dave, I also live in St. Louis and though I have never met him in person he doesn't appear to be able to bench that much. You cant always go on looks I know but he just doesn't look that big. As a matter of fact if he was anywhere close I would be impressed. My kids wear his jersey so I hope I'm wrong, they would love it if he were that strong.
 
the year he got drafted on espn, they had this special on him during the draft and all. They showed him working out and he was being dropped from like 10 foot in the air and he was like catching himself before he hit the ground. They also showed him working out and he had like 450 on and he was repping it out. So i honestly dont doubt it. Im not related to him, or dont know him either, but i can tell you what i saw and thats enough for me to believe. That dude does have one swole ass neck though.
 
people never believe when someone has them topped......I love it! :)
 
i'm not the one claiming a 530 bench, seems like the bench is one of those lifts where everyone and they're brother can do 500, yet in 13 years of lifting i've seen exactly 3 people bench 5 plates and only one of those was without a shirt and i can count on two hands the # of people i've seen do 4 plates legitimetely on two hands, so forgive me if i have a hard time believing that a guy who literally looks average sized can do 5 wheels and a couple of cookies on each side
 
daverelli said:
i'm not the one claiming a 530 bench, seems like the bench is one of those lifts where everyone and they're brother can do 500, yet in 13 years of lifting i've seen exactly 3 people bench 5 plates and only one of those was without a shirt and i can count on two hands the # of people i've seen do 4 plates legitimetely on two hands, so forgive me if i have a hard time believing that a guy who literally looks average sized can do 5 wheels and a couple of cookies on each side

Dude, you're a stubborn A-hole. Have you ever seen olympic lifters? Those under the 200 lb weight class can lift EXTRAORDINARY amounts of weight. Just goes to show that looks don't mean shit. I see guys in my gym all the time that are small as fuck but can move around more weight than 3/4 of this board.
 
daverelli said:
i'm not the one claiming a 530 bench, seems like the bench is one of those lifts where everyone and they're brother can do 500, yet in 13 years of lifting i've seen exactly 3 people bench 5 plates and only one of those was without a shirt and i can count on two hands the # of people i've seen do 4 plates legitimetely on two hands, so forgive me if i have a hard time believing that a guy who literally looks average sized can do 5 wheels and a couple of cookies on each side


I do understand where you are coming from with this one. But who would care about talking about someone who can do 300? Thats why you always hear about someone doing a lot of weight. Because: It's a lot of weight and its more than most can do.

Just keep in mind most people in the NFL think he is pound for pound one of the strongest and there are some strong people in the NFL, not that many people can be wrong.
 
Didn't some of the Ohio State guys like Shawn Springs and Joey Galloway have some big time bench bench/squat numbers? Somewhere in the mid-400's at 180-190 or so, I thought I read.
 
daverelli said:
i'm not the one claiming a 530 bench, seems like the bench is one of those lifts where everyone and they're brother can do 500, yet in 13 years of lifting i've seen exactly 3 people bench 5 plates and only one of those was without a shirt and i can count on two hands the # of people i've seen do 4 plates legitimetely on two hands, so forgive me if i have a hard time believing that a guy who literally looks average sized can do 5 wheels and a couple of cookies on each side

bro, one of my best friends plays DT at Eastern Kentucky. Hes 19 all natty and benches 460, Squats 600 and clean and jerks over 350. So i dont find that hard to believe at all. Go to the Fhsaa online you can even look his numbers up when he was a senior in HS at the states weightlifting meet.
 
yeah but he's a defensive tackle and probably weighs at least 260 those weights are believable for a guy that size, but a 530 bench for a guy who weighs 185, come on
 
i would believe 315 or 320 it's not like that isn't impressive enough and it's way more believable for a guy of his small amount of muscle mass
 
daverelli said:
i would believe 315 or 320 it's not like that isn't impressive enough and it's way more believable for a guy of his small amount of muscle mass


If you think that is a lot for an NFL Player, that just proves my point: You have no clue.
 
Rather than perform a standard bench press, Schroeder teaches athletes to explode through the movement, release the bar from their hands at the top of the lift, drop their hands to their chests, catch and explode back into the bar as fast as possible. Schroeder keeps his hands ready at all times, watching athletes to make sure they catch the bar.

This sort of explains. He's basically saying he's bouncing the weight off his chest, which would also explain why he can "speed press" more than he BP the normal way. It's still a lot of weight but I'd be afraid of tearing something by letting that much weight drop on me then catching it at the bottom like that. I have more squat power coming up if I go all the way down and spring up rather than just going to parallel and trying to slow the weight down. It's the same principle here.
 
hey eat big, if that's not a lot for an NFL player how come every time i watch the lineman challenge the strongest incline press by the biggest offensive or def. lineman is 385 year after year, the stongest dude at the combine this year was an OL who did 43 reps with 225, if you think that carries over to 530 lbs. for a single you're on some great drugs, i will be willing to bet anything i have on the fact that the only dude in the NFL who can touch that kind of bench is Cowboys OL Larry Allen, i don't have anything against Arculeta, i just think he needs to wake up, his 225 for 31 reps translates to roughly a 365 lb. bench, very respectable for a DB
 
so Dial Tone you're saying that he can bench 530 with enough force that the weight leaves his hands at the top and he catches it, hahahahahahahahahahaha
 
At 220lbs the all-time best bench in the world is American M LaMarque on 13Nov04 of 771lbs. (Ref Herb Glossbrenner for USPL). [And S. Rabine at 198lbs got 685lbs). 500lbs at his body weight would not be unheard of at all, certainly not unbelievably strong.

However, this bench and all the top 20 in this weight class are shirted. It takes time to work a shirt, and he brags in the interview link about not doing the same exercises in years. You don't imagine him doing dedicated shirt work when he is doing clapping push-ups one week and medicine ball drops the next. Shirtless, (and I can't see him developing shirt skills), a 530 lb bench would be tough at his weight.

Also, I read about the Evo-Sport guy online, and he likes this thing he uses kind of like an upper body leg press. You plyometrically push this platform. This is a great power exercise. But the evo-sport guy tends to call it a dynamic "bench press", and I imagine so do his trainees. It's more like a weighted platform catch. You don't need stabilizers and the sled/incline etc make the weight meaningless off that machine.

And he can't do sternum bouncing with that weight. As for dynamic or catch bench, the weight will be less than a maximum effort bench. Period. As it says in Zatsiorsky's Science and Practice of Strength Training "It is impossible for athletes to generate a large force in a fast movement if they cannot develop similar or even greater force values in a slow motion." [p208]

So I would have to say daverelli is probably right. I don't think this man can bench 530lbs in a regulation powerlifting form from the evidence above. He is definitely not catch benching 530 either.

However, to put the best spin on it (besides it being simple self-promoting bullshit), I would say an uneducated reporter took a weight from a plyometric machine and called it a bench.

But I think it is a much more meaningful way to train for football than old methods. He has great power, and it seems readily transferrable to the field. This is what interests me.

And daverelli, why is this so important to you? That is what I don't understand. Why are you all up this guy's ass because of some stupid newspaper clipping? Just curious.
 
actually i just made one comment about it and all of my other posts have been in response to other posts but glad to see at least one person has a little common sense, it's demeaning to huge, massive lifters who have been in this game for 20 odd years who HAVE ACHIEVED a legit 500+ bench to see a skinny backward ballcap wearing 25 year old claim a bench that it took years to build, it kind of reminds me of these fools in the gym who press 4 wheels on each side of the Hammer Strength incline and then go around telling people that they incline press 405, gimme a break
 
daverelli said:
actually i just made one comment about it and all of my other posts have been in response to other posts but glad to see at least one person has a little common sense, it's demeaning to huge, massive lifters who have been in this game for 20 odd years who HAVE ACHIEVED a legit 500+ bench to see a skinny backward ballcap wearing 25 year old claim a bench that it took years to build, it kind of reminds me of these fools in the gym who press 4 wheels on each side of the Hammer Strength incline and then go around telling people that they incline press 405, gimme a break

You got some issues bro
 
daverelli said:
so Dial Tone you're saying that he can bench 530 with enough force that the weight leaves his hands at the top and he catches it, hahahahahahahahahahaha

If that's how you interpreted what I said then you truly are a moron. I've done 365x2 and I don't think i'd come anywhere near 225 for 31 reps....mid 20's if I trained it for a few weeks.
 
Dial_tone said:
If that's how you interpreted what I said then you truly are a moron. I've done 365x2 and I don't think i'd come anywhere near 225 for 31 reps....mid 20's if I trained it for a few weeks.
i agree. i'm pretty damn close to 4 plates now and dont think i'd get more than 22 or 23 with 225
 
Dial_tone said:
If that's how you interpreted what I said then you truly are a moron. I've done 365x2 and I don't think i'd come anywhere near 225 for 31 reps....mid 20's if I trained it for a few weeks.

Not criticicizing anyone, but a buddy of mine in highschool practiced benching 225 for as many reps as possible for football (He was about 230 pounds 18 yr old) and he could eventually get it up 33 times. However, he could basically only put up about 405 for 1 rep. I disagree with both comments regarding how many times someone could rep 225 directly corelated to their 1 rep max.
 
let me load a seven foot olympic bar with 5 45lb. plates, a 10, a 5, and a 2 and a half on each side and if his skinny ass benches it i'll give him my house, car, wife, everything i have, that weight would come dowm and fold his little ass like a cheap shirt
 
JIMguy said:
Not criticicizing anyone, but a buddy of mine in highschool practiced benching 225 for as many reps as possible for football (He was about 230 pounds 18 yr old) and he could eventually get it up 33 times. However, he could basically only put up about 405 for 1 rep. I disagree with both comments regarding how many times someone could rep 225 directly corelated to their 1 rep max.

We were both commenting on ourselves so what's there to disagree with? I think we know our own strength limits better than you do. This comes down to red/white muscle fiber distribution. Someone with more red muscle fibers would get more reps, I believe. I have a hard time picturing the guy doing 530 but I'd like to see what he can do and what this speed press thing looks like.
 
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I'd like to see this video. I don't doubt he can do it, but I just want to see the mechanics of the lift.
 
p.s. nobody said the video showed him benching 530. The video (according to online reviews) shows him doing tons of plyometric stuff. Some field stuff. It's supposed to be impressive and interesting.

The 530 bench comes from a statement in an article about the training. It says that his "bench" went from such and such in 2.69 secs (something like that the numbers aren't exact) to 530lbs in 1.08 secs. First thing to notice is that the "bench" is measured in hundreds of a second. Sure sounds like a plyometric machine with a movement timer. I don't think coach jay is stop-watching that shit. lol.

This stupid comment has taken on a life of it's own.

If you search on google for 530 bench arch. you will get 20 copies of this article and people arguing about it on 50 different forums.

The video never shows his one rep max. He never said it either. It's just an offhand comment from an article.

It has me curious now, though. I wonder what his true one rep max authentic bench is. I saw one his teammates criticizing this story. This guy said he did 225 for 35 and his max is 405, and since he beats our boy on the NFL "strength test" he didn't think the famous DB could bench 530. But then that gets into the whole endurance versus max strength argument.
 
actually, if you watch the ultimate defender show on espn. La' Roi Glover, inclined 400 lbs. Also, Larry Allen has been the strongest man in the NFl for sometime, and hes well over 700. I believe theirs even a thing in ESPN about him.
 
Alright I will try to get the DVD back, watch it. Burn the part where he does it if he does and show it to you all. May take weeks.
 
gettinkrunkd said:
Also, Larry Allen has been the strongest man in the NFl for sometime, and hes well over 700. I believe theirs even a thing in ESPN about him.

Are you referring to the bench press? the world record is 715 raw, so thatd better be a shirted number :P
 
what does that tell you if one of the strongest men in NFL is inclining 400 and some 185 lb. pussy is claiming 530, makes you think doesn't it
 
daverelli said:
what does that tell you if one of the strongest men in NFL is inclining 400 and some 185 lb. pussy is claiming 530, makes you think doesn't it

thiers a big diff between incline and bench pressing. Some people can do more on one exercise than another.

Also :Allen's tenacity and strength are his best traits. Last year, he was filmed bench-pressing a stunning 700 pounds, easily making him the league's strongest Pro Bowl player.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/b/page/pressbox/0,1328,5646870,00.html
 
LOL Archuleta is not 185lbs, 210+ actually and lean.

anyone who can do rebound benches with 225lbs as easily as he does has to be darn strong absorbing all that force! Just try it sometime...
 
You can bet your ass there are no starting safeties in the NFL at 185 lbs.
 
Not in the NFL you don't.

Furthermore, I did a bit of research on him and he played linebacker in college - the idea that a major Div 1 college football program would start a guy who weighed 185 lb at linebacker is certifiably insane. Also, everybody gains weight from the time they're 22 til 27 - especially if you are an elite professional athlete with time and access to the best training available. That means you are positing the guy was a 170-180 lb linebacker not only playing in but excelling in the PAC-10. Completely laughable.

I'd believe a 175 lb guy could bench 500 before I'd believe he could be all american at linebacker.
 
iwould say that playing linebacker at 175 would be a lot easier than benching 500 at 175, hahahaha, like i said earlier, everybody and they're brother benches 5 bills while they're sitting on they're couch but when they get in the gym they're struggling with 250, haha!
 
The thing is and the thing that you haven't seemed to understand is that we're not talking about everybody and their brother on the couch, we're talking about an elite class athlete. World of difference. You said you'd find a "315-320" press believable? Do you realize how badly a lift like that sucks for any player at any position other than kicker or punter in the NFL? Its not even that great for an average college skill positioni player.

I'd have a hard time believing a 175-185 lb guy could put up that kind of bench too but the evidence that AA weighs that doesn't seem to exist beyond fantasy on your part. Every reputable source and logical deducation puts him somewhere between 215-225 lbs. At that weight I still don't know if he can do it (though not ruling it out) but I hardly think you need to skew the facts to bolster your arguement.
 
if there's so many MONSTERS in the NFL why is it that every time that you see the lineman challenge the top dude only gets around 35 reps with 225 or if it's a max single on the incline it's always around 385? because EVERYONE INFLATES THEY'RE BENCH NUMBERS, IT'S TRADITION WITH GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
get the video so we can see his monstrous 15 inch arms bench 530, hahaha, i wasn't even talking about him in my last post
 
Am I the only one who thinks that comparing his numbers w/those of a powerlifters is like comparing apples and oranges (to a certain extent atleast)? You guys are finding the idea of him benching that much hard to believe, however he obviously uses a different form and timing than what would be used say, at a PL comp. Not to take away from his strength at all, but its aimed towards a specific aspect of lifting/life that he NEEDS to excel at for his job. Do you think they would allow his form (the way it's described in the article) at a comp? It seems to me he would be DQ'ed in a second. But I guess thats just me.

As to judging his weight, the idea seems absurd to me that anybody could accurately guess someones weight by staring at him in a picture, or a tv screen. Regardless though, the guy would not be starting in the NFL if he weighed 185.
 
No....but no woody........Davarelli knows all.....Guys stop arguing with him, he benches 600 plus raw and weights 200 lbs.....Everyone stop, Dav's the man... ;) Lets just drop it......Someone seems to be a bit jealous....wink wink...Also, hes listed at 223 lbs, so no matter if he looks 180 lbs or 400 lbs to you, thats what his weight is bro, and if you dont believe me, then ask my brother http://www.stlouisrams.com/Team/Players/47446
 
just curious.....name some starting nfl safetys that weight 180 lbs?? Because that is what position he plays.
 
that's what his weight is because they say so? they say so, so you believe it than that makes you a sucker, teams lie about players weights and heights all the time, jackass.
 
ok, i think its a TAD bit more accurate than davarelli's eyeball....But hey..what do I know?? :)
 
daverelli said:
plenty of corners are 185 and below

Plenty of kickers too....what's your point? The statement was about NFL Safeties. Guys 200 lbs & up tend to be moved to Safety while the shorter faster players are at the corners. Not to mention a lot of NFL Safeties were undersized linebackers in college, namely Pat Tillman and Adam Archuleta.
 
LOL, you have yet to disprove me once with some factual data. Its coo, im not the only one who sees you looking like a fool post after post....after post..... ;)
 
daverelli said:
WOW!!!!!!!!! 225 on rebound benches HE'S AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's not 210, he's 185.


Well if you think a rebound bench with 225lbs is easy, then I suggest you try it some time for a few sets of triples with at least a 3 inch hand to bar separation, and then reacting back up before the bar drops more than 3 inches.. :chomp:
 
BOOEY said:
I really hope eat_big gets that video just so you'd shut the fuck up. Sounds like you've got an axe to grind - did Adam pick on you during high school, lol


Yeah, Adam's cousin cant find it at his house so at their family reunion in two weeks he's going to get it. Autographed too. I asked him to autograph it saying he can bench 530.

I doubt he will do it because he doesnt flaunt a lot. Henry, his cousin says he is very quiet and just does his job.
 
A little tangent...
I saw Troy Polamalu(SS for the Steelers) bench 425 and squat 620 when they were doing end of the year lifting tests when he was playing at USC, and that was pretty incredible cause he's not a real big guy either, like 5'10" 210 at most. He also set the USC's football team vertical leap record at 45" that year.

...back to the original point
Whether or not Archuletta can bench 530, he hits like a freight train, so he must be doing something right.
 
ok, look at sean taylor for the skins, or brian dawkins.....rodney harrison...thomas davis...these are all pretty big guys playing safety(200+)
 
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