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AAS and the human brain

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Swole_2112

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I read something today referring to the affect of AAS on the brain. It part, it spoke of the affect it has on mood, something of which I care very little about. However, it did also make mention of AASs affect on the limbic system of the brain, which is the portion of the brain, in large part, responsible for learning and memory. That being said, is there a significant affect that AAS has on the brain that would serve as a detriment to one's ability to learn and recall memory? Any thoughts?
 
In my experience, test actually seems to help me focus, concentrate, recall things better. Not sure about any others...
 
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
 
I know that it has a effect on the Central Nervous system. So I would say "yes". But don't know for sure. Hopefully others will chime in to give a more definitive answer than mine. ;)
 
there has been many studies done on the elderly in this area..of course when you give them an extra nutritional supplement like Ensure, and other nutrition shakes they have an increase in all areas of functioning as well.
 
dumbass said:
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
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indeed. you have regressed so far that you can't even determine the appropriate time for sarcasm or when a question deserves well thought out answers....here's a banana. yum, banana.

anyway, check out interleukin-15 aka IL-15. it's a chemical involved with memory and learning that is reduced a great deal when we are sick and fighting the flu or other virus. i have a theory that it plays a role when we are growing very quickly and our bodies are working extra hard, except in this instance, it's on gaining muscle and not expelling infected cells (or whatever it is that's so hard about viruses)
 
thebrakes said:
indeed. you have regressed so far that you can't even determine the appropriate time for sarcasm or when a question deserves well thought out answers....here's a banana. yum, banana.
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It's called a sense of humour. Lighten up.
Anyways, for me I have noticed an ability to concentrate better when on, if all other aspects are in line also, like sleep & diet.
 
dumbass said:
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
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Since your still able to type a detailed albeit sarcastic response on this board, id say your doing ok!
 
thebrakes said:
indeed. you have regressed so far that you can't even determine the appropriate time for sarcasm or when a question deserves well thought out answers....here's a banana. yum, banana.

anyway, check out interleukin-15 aka IL-15. it's a chemical involved with memory and learning that is reduced a great deal when we are sick and fighting the flu or other virus. i have a theory that it plays a role when we are growing very quickly and our bodies are working extra hard, except in this instance, it's on gaining muscle and not expelling infected cells (or whatever it is that's so hard about viruses)
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Uggh, you is smart and me is dum..... please excuse me for not having an unfounded guess about the correlation between a process our body experiences when sick and roids effecting our memory. I believe your theory is about as relevent to the question that was asked, as was my humor.
 
thebrakes said:
indeed. you have regressed so far that you can't even determine the appropriate time for sarcasm or when a question deserves well thought out answers....here's a banana. yum, banana.

anyway, check out interleukin-15 aka IL-15. it's a chemical involved with memory and learning that is reduced a great deal when we are sick and fighting the flu or other virus. i have a theory that it plays a role when we are growing very quickly and our bodies are working extra hard, except in this instance, it's on gaining muscle and not expelling infected cells (or whatever it is that's so hard about viruses)
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IL-15 is a cytokine....a cell signaler like the other IL or interferons.
This one is secreted by macrophages and enhances the production of T cytotoxic (CD8) cells and natural killer cells.

Where did you hear it effects the lymbic system?
 
Every time I come into this side of the board, I have to say, I am in awe.
A lot of you are some smart M.F.s when it comes to this stuff. If all the detracters in the general public understood things, to the extent you guys do, they would think differently. If they new how much thought you guys put into this, they would legalize & regulate it. Then they would have real control over H.S. use & just plain dumb ass use.
 
anyway, check out interleukin-15 aka IL-15. it's a chemical involved with memory and learning that is reduced a great deal when we are sick and fighting the flu or other virus. i have a theory that it plays a role when we are growing very quickly and our bodies are working extra hard, except in this instance, it's on gaining muscle and not expelling infected cells (or whatever it is that's so hard about viruses)
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so you have an untested, unproven theory. wow! that is awesome. who are you?
 
dumbass said:
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
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I like the way you think. I've been too busy to post much, can I hire you to ghost-post with my ID?
 
dumbass said:
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
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LMFAO!!
 
About the "recalling" things easier, I feel familiar with. I mean when it's about dreams. I usually don't remember my dreams, and I know a dream a lot, I just can't remember them fully. Now, on test, I can recall my dreams with the tiniest details. Dunno if that is relevant or not but I thought I'd share it.

:elephant:
 
Wow, this thread has really taken a wrong turn hasn't it. I don't know why everyone says there is so much drama on EF. (my eye rolling smilies aren't working, but that's what I'm doing)

To the thread starter, it is a very good thread. Something that should definitely be looked into more by all of us. Personally, I've never really noticed a difference. My cycles are usually pretty mild and very far apart though.

The brakes, U need to lighten up a bit. Ur boy was just kidding around.
 
androlic said:
About the "recalling" things easier, I feel familiar with. I mean when it's about dreams. I usually don't remember my dreams, and I know a dream a lot, I just can't remember them fully. Now, on test, I can recall my dreams with the tiniest details. Dunno if that is relevant or not but I thought I'd share it.

:elephant:
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Now that you mention it, I do remember more of my dreams. Don't know if it's actually test related, but, the test helps me with other things that may help with the sleep.
 
Apexx said:
Wow, this thread has really taken a wrong turn hasn't it. I don't know why everyone says there is so much drama on EF. (my eye rolling smilies aren't working, but that's what I'm doing)

To the thread starter, it is a very good thread. Something that should definitely be looked into more by all of us. Personally, I've never really noticed a difference. My cycles are usually pretty mild and very far apart though.

The brakes, U need to lighten up a bit. Ur boy was just kidding around.
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I'm glad somebody said something. I'm not opposed to inserting a joke here and there, but damn, only a few didn't.

Absolutely, this is a subject that definately deserves some serious attention. I wanna look good, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my brain in the process. Priorities, ya know?

It's probably going to be difficult to find any detailed information on this subject when considering the complex nature of the subject matter.
 
bigrand said:
IL-15 is a cytokine....a cell signaler like the other IL or interferons.
This one is secreted by macrophages and enhances the production of T cytotoxic (CD8) cells and natural killer cells.

Where did you hear it effects the lymbic system?
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This is the site where I read that AAS affects the limbic system.

http://www.counselingseattle.com/drugs/steroids.htm

Even if it doesn't affect the limbic system, the idea that AAS could affect one's ability to learn and recall memory is a question I believe deserves attention.
 
Its interesting thst several have posted a possible increase in memeory funtion on AAS. I have noticed the same, and it is quite pronounced given I am in my late 40's.
 
missionpossible said:
Its interesting thst several have posted a possible increase in memeory funtion on AAS. I have noticed the same, and it is quite pronounced given I am in my late 40's.
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I'm not sure, in my case, if it's strictly an increase in memory, or overall brain function. Due to anecdotal evidence from friends, that's what inspired me to get checked & go on HRT.
 
missionpossible said:
Its interesting thst several have posted a possible increase in memeory funtion on AAS. I have noticed the same, and it is quite pronounced given I am in my late 40's.
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God knows I don't have near the anatomy and physiology knowledge that some here do, which is why I'm calling on all of them for their expertise.

This is my concern. I know all about thinking more quickly and recalling memory more easily and with more detail while on. I've experience this myself. I've experience the inflated sense of well being and confidence. But, what about how it could possibly result in one toping out in their cognitive ability sooner?

Take this as an analogy. Suppose you're rebuilding a muscle car and you can't decide between setting it with great acceleration or high top end speed. You can't have both. If your car has great acceleration and you top out in speed sooner. If you have high top end speed, you don't accelerate as quick.

Now, think of you cognitive ability before AAS as that car before you decide on acceleration or top end speed. Take AAS and you can think quickly and easily (acceleration), but you're ability to grasp high level concepts and theories may diminsh. Stay off AAS, and you don't think quite as quick as you would have, but it's still fast enough and you maintain that ability to comprehend highly complex thought (high top end speed).

I know this may seem a bit irrelevant, but anything I put in my body that could change it temporarily or permanently is something that I want to completely understand. Know what I mean?
 
dumbass said:
Not sure if it was just coincidence but before I tried test (two week cycle of test cyp) I was an an architect and in my spare time I developed complicated fuel management systems for the space shuttle. Since ending my two week cycle, I have started to regress into a pre-evolved ape like creature and the ability to maintain even the simplest thought is now beyond my relm of comprehension.
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LOL
 
Swole_2112 said:
This is the site where I read that AAS affects the limbic system.

http://www.counselingseattle.com/drugs/steroids.htm

Even if it doesn't affect the limbic system, the idea that AAS could affect one's ability to learn and recall memory is a question I believe deserves attention.
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My question was to the bro who said Interlukin affects the lymbic system....they are immune system cytokines, not neurotransmitters or anything that will have affects on the lymbic system. They are cell signalers....signals between immune system cells.

As far as AAS affecting the lymbic system, its a possibilty considering they do affect NTs (dopamine) and the CNS in other ways.
 
HiDnGoD said:
Now that you mention it, I do remember more of my dreams. Don't know if it's actually test related, but, the test helps me with other things that may help with the sleep.
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Thats funny u said that cuz I just finished a test cycle and I could definately remember a lot more of my dreams. Other than remembering my dreams though I felt like my brain was a little slower and I felt like one of those dumb jock muscle bound guys you see on TV, thats probably because I had a one track mind and all I could think about was sex.
 
Okay, let's put this question another way, does anybody here feel stupid or have had their friends observe them as being more stupid during or after a cycle? Do any of you feel a decrease in you intelligence after having done so many cycles?
 
Good question swole...anyone know the answer here to this?

Oh yeah, try a different cam.....lol




Swole_2112 said:
God knows I don't have near the anatomy and physiology knowledge that some here do, which is why I'm calling on all of them for their expertise.

This is my concern. I know all about thinking more quickly and recalling memory more easily and with more detail while on. I've experience this myself. I've experience the inflated sense of well being and confidence. But, what about how it could possibly result in one toping out in their cognitive ability sooner?

Take this as an analogy. Suppose you're rebuilding a muscle car and you can't decide between setting it with great acceleration or high top end speed. You can't have both. If your car has great acceleration and you top out in speed sooner. If you have high top end speed, you don't accelerate as quick.

Now, think of you cognitive ability before AAS as that car before you decide on acceleration or top end speed. Take AAS and you can think quickly and easily (acceleration), but you're ability to grasp high level concepts and theories may diminsh. Stay off AAS, and you don't think quite as quick as you would have, but it's still fast enough and you maintain that ability to comprehend highly complex thought (high top end speed).

I know this may seem a bit irrelevant, but anything I put in my body that could change it temporarily or permanently is something that I want to completely understand. Know what I mean?
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