A reliable Glycemic Index

[SgtSlaughter]

Ah, good to know!

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Hmm... I'd be curious to see what your opinion of the "perfect PWO" drink/shake would consist of.

Assume: 200lbs 10%bf 6'0" maintaining weight and simply wanted to replenish muscle glycogen lost during a strenous weight training session.

EDIT: just a thought... maybe split the fast acting sugars up from the protein and/or MCT fats, ect? To make up 2 to even 3 drinks ...?

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[Ghede]

Ah, good to know!

<threadjack>

Hmm... I'd be curious to see what your opinion of the "perfect PWO" drink/shake would consist of.

Assume: 200lbs 10%bf 6'0" maintaining weight and simply wanted to replenish muscle glycogen lost during a strenous weight training session.

EDIT: just a thought... maybe split the fast acting sugars up from the protein and/or MCT fats, ect? To make up 2 to even 3 drinks ...?

</threadjack>

Ahhhh... well... i start forest fires with my thoughts on PWO nutrition...

DISCLAIMER: do what works for YOU. try different angles, keep a detailed log, ala Bunnylicious, and reference it to plan the next experiment.

That having been said, I dont do PWO shakes. Ever. I eat whole food. My deal is that i am an insanely easy gainer as far as LBM and my whole life has been about LOSING my fuckups. I have lost between 106-111lbs of fat and added about 14lbs of LBM, and for me the answer is to eat SLOW digesting proteins, not 'high quality proteins' I dont want whey, i want chicken or turkey with some good MCT/EFAs and some good deep complex/fibrous carbs.

The last thing on the planet I need is 'easy to assimilate' proteins. I want those babies to go low and slow, so my body can use them sloooooowwwwly, not jam all that protein into my system as fast as possible to risk storing the spill over as fat...

The majority of the myth of 'QUICK! EAT SOME WHEY AND SIMPLE SUGARS' mantra was based upon studies for Enduance athletes and their needs in regards to glycogen replenishment window after bouts of Extraodinary Depletion involving exercise that lasted for more than 1.5-2 hours or better.

I get flamed for saying it all the time, but i have no need to push PWO shakes of Whey/Dextrose/Maltodextrin on anyone, pretty much ever. For me its about liking to eat my food, not chug it down in 10 seconds in a locker room for fear of not making my mythical protein window time frame. (which is more like 4-24 hours, btw, not 20 minutes.) So, all you 'HURRY UP AND DRINK YOUR PROTEIN' types, flame away, i am used to it...


What it boils down to is: do what works for you, Different strokes for different folks and all that... funny part is, most of the PWO Shakers i know have never tried it any other whey (sorry for the pun, i had too )

 

[SgtSlaughter]

hehe "i start forest firest with my thoughts on PWO nutrition" lol... awesome!

I don't belive in traditional PWO nutrition either... it's just another meal that needs to be eaten for me, and i'm a easy "fat storage/er person thingy" too

I used a DWOS (during workout shake) because my meal timing calls for me to eat about 30ish minutes into my workout... and i do cardio after lifting as well.

Slamming down sugary/carb loaded drinks after put alot of fat on me before... I reccomend sipping for 30-60 minutes if one opts to drink a PWO.

I also belive our bodies were meant to process whole foods... I have yet to start eating a whole food meal on the weight room floor yet maybe during my next bulk

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

"different strokes for different folks" so true.

 

[*Bunny*]

Ahhhh... well... i start forest fires with my thoughts on PWO nutrition...

DISCLAIMER: do what works for YOU. try different angles, keep a detailed log, ala Bunnylicious, and reference it to plan the next experiment.

That having been said, I dont do PWO shakes. Ever. I eat whole food. My deal is that i am an insanely easy gainer as far as LBM and my whole life has been about LOSING my fuckups. I have lost between 106-111lbs of fat and added about 14lbs of LBM, and for me the answer is to eat SLOW digesting proteins, not 'high quality proteins' I dont want whey, i want chicken or turkey with some good MCT/EFAs and some good deep complex/fibrous carbs.

The last thing on the planet I need is 'easy to assimilate' proteins. I want those babies to go low and slow, so my body can use them sloooooowwwwly, not jam all that protein into my system as fast as possible to risk storing the spill over as fat...

The majority of the myth of 'QUICK! EAT SOME WHEY AND SIMPLE SUGARS' mantra was based upon studies for Enduance athletes and their needs in regards to glycogen replenishment window after bouts of Extraodinary Depletion involving exercise that lasted for more than 1.5-2 hours or better.

I get flamed for saying it all the time, but i have no need to push PWO shakes of Whey/Dextrose/Maltodextrin on anyone, pretty much ever. For me its about liking to eat my food, not chug it down in 10 seconds in a locker room for fear of not making my mythical protein window time frame. (which is more like 4-24 hours, btw, not 20 minutes.) So, all you 'HURRY UP AND DRINK YOUR PROTEIN' types, flame away, i am used to it...


What it boils down to is: do what works for you, Different strokes for different folks and all that... funny part is, most of the PWO Shakers i know have never tried it any other whey (sorry for the pun, i had too )

You rang? Your fires must burn bright Ghede, I saw the light & felt the pull over here ...

Anywho, I'm with my buddy Sarge (who does have a log btw , I jack it often )on the Pre/DWO shake... I've had great gains, endurance & benefits from incorporating this in my new 'cut' plan ... experiment a better choice? Plus i have to take into consideration I use to train hard core on empty .. yes I'm a mutant, b/c I put on size (evident) ... Such an enigma this body of mine ... I LOVE it!

I do however prefer real food PWO ... but when convenience is a factor, as of late this IS the case, I'll throw the ISO & Gator together, shake shake shake and sip it over the next 30-45 minutes ...

So I AM a PWO Shaker you 'know' that has tried the different whey ... eh?

 

[Ghede]

You rang? Your fires must burn bright Ghede, I saw the light & felt the pull over here ...

Anywho, I'm with my buddy Sarge (who does have a log btw , I jack it often )on the Pre/DWO shake... I've had great gains, endurance & benefits from incorporating this in my new 'cut' plan ... experiment a better choice? Plus i have to take into consideration I use to train hard core on empty .. yes I'm a mutant, b/c I put on size (evident) ... Such an enigma this body of mine ... I LOVE it!

I do however prefer real food PWO ... but when convenience is a factor, as of late this IS the case, I'll throw the ISO & Gator together, shake shake shake and sip it over the next 30-45 minutes ...

So I AM a PWO Shaker you 'know' that has tried the different whey ... eh?

I wish Uncle Rick von Rock would help me out with my plat problems... i need to add a legomorph to my buddy list.

Aye, Funny place to say this, but i would like to DROP 20lbs of LBM but i refuse to starve myself... such is life.

Searching for a damn bod pod/hydrostatic weighing in NOVO/DC right now to decide what my next move is: calipers said 8.1% yesterday, but i dont believe that for a second... gotta be higher than that.... however, if that IS the case, that would mean i just broke 30% BF gone BYE-BYE...

... time for some Ben & Jerry's...

:LMAO:


I have to try the Ulterific GF Juice and ISO AGB thang, you all have had such good things to say on it, i will give it a shot... er... a swallow... you know.

 

[*Bunny*]

I wish Uncle Rick von Rock would help me out with my plat problems... i need to add a legomorph to my buddy list.

Aye, Funny place to say this, but i would like to DROP 20lbs of LBM but i refuse to starve myself... such is life.

Searching for a damn bod pod/hydrostatic weighing in NOVO/DC right now to decide what my next move is: calipers said 8.1% yesterday, but i dont believe that for a second... gotta be higher than that.... however, if that IS the case, that would mean i just broke 30% BF gone BYE-BYE...

... time for some Ben & Jerry's...

:LMAO:


I have to try the Ulterific GF Juice and ISO AGB thang, you all have had such good things to say on it, i will give it a shot... er... a swallow... you know.

My log & results speak for itself no? But then again , the effort & dedication, will drive, passion, DESIRE, scream for smiles ... can you hear me roar?

Pretty dang loud

No Ben & Jerrys Chubby Hubby? OMG ...

 

[Ghede]

My log & results speak for itself no? But then again , the effort & dedication, will drive, passion, DESIRE, scream for smiles ... can you hear me roar?

Pretty dang loud

No Ben & Jerrys Chubby Hubby? OMG ...

Chubby Hubby. Holy mother of all that is mouthgasmic in this world! SAVE ME!

(I friggin loves me some Chubby Hubby chased with a pint of Peanut Butter Cup.... GASP but its grilled turkey burger and edamame for this camper tonight.)

 

[*Bunny*]

Chubby Hubby. Holy mother of all that is mouthgasmic in this world! SAVE ME!

(I friggin loves me some Chubby Hubby chased with a pint of Peanut Butter Cup.... GASP but its grilled turkey burger and edamame for this camper tonight.)

That was my last big cheat before my cut ... both pints... the PBC is still in my P's freezer ...

Coincidence? ... nah ... no such thing ...

 

[lacoste]

I have found that the Glycemic Load makes a hell of a lot more sense than the GI of foods. But following low GL foods works well for me but everyone is different.

 

[Lifterforlife]

Not a big fan of glycemic index, I have stated obvious reasons in the past. But anyway, if you want it, this is probably the best site on the web...

www.mendosa.com

follow the links through the food link.