there is this pro that trains at our gym, i hve been friends with him for a year... i was talking t him about juice the other day.. and he told me that he never did GH or slin.... during his bulking phases he takes test, deca, and primo at a gram each.... and during his cutting phases he uses 200 mg of winny a day with 50 mcg of T3... i think he is bullshitting me cuz he is about 280 lbs... could i be wrong??