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251 is beastly bro! I was 210 the other day 
and that strength consolidation seems legit, I think it would be wise to do during PCT
and that strength consolidation seems legit, I think it would be wise to do during PCT
A Lifter's Iron Log...
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ghettostudmuffin
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251 and gaining lol.
I keep getting stronger as I get bigger, but at the same time I admit I get thicker and abit fatter as well.
By the time I weight 265-275lbs I'm literally going to look like a fantasty dwarf because I'll be so thick LOL.
There's the old line "that guys built like a brick shit house. Ya, I'll be looking like a brick alright. Won't be pretty, but at least I'll be strong.
Depending on how I feel at 265-275lbs I may contemplate going even bigger, but my long-term goal is 225-240lbs strong as fuck and healthy with decently attractive looking bodyfat %.
This ballooning up so to speak is just a fast way to get really strong.
I keep getting stronger as I get bigger, but at the same time I admit I get thicker and abit fatter as well.
By the time I weight 265-275lbs I'm literally going to look like a fantasty dwarf because I'll be so thick LOL.
There's the old line "that guys built like a brick shit house. Ya, I'll be looking like a brick alright. Won't be pretty, but at least I'll be strong.
Depending on how I feel at 265-275lbs I may contemplate going even bigger, but my long-term goal is 225-240lbs strong as fuck and healthy with decently attractive looking bodyfat %.
This ballooning up so to speak is just a fast way to get really strong.
ghettostudmuffin
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500 belt only I think will come around within 1-2 months. I did 365x5x5 on Tuesday and while hard it didn't kill me. I won't be surprised if my coach has me do 385x5x5 next week.
Thing is I have only had 500 on my back once while attempting to squat it. I was close, but it felt heavy as hell because I hadn't had more than 405 on my back up to that point since I started training.
I'm hoping he'll have me do a single with 450-475 within the next month so I can get abit acclimated to the weight before making such a big jump.
It makes a difference mentally and physically the way the weight feels.
I've gained alot more respect for squat weights now that I'm pushing close to 500, especially raw. The difference between unracking and walking out 500 vs 315 is night and day so I imagine it's similar walking out 600+ etc.
I'm starting to understand the whole thing about mindset as well. I'm strong enough to squat 500 there abouts right now and I believe I can, but you "really" have to believe you can when it comes time to do it and you have to set your mind right. You have to believe you can lift the weight and continue to lift even heavier weight. It's becoming almost as much mental strength as physical at this point and I think it'll be that way even more so when I squat 600. If you don't think you can lift it you won't lift it and if you don't know you can lift it you probably won't.
Thing is I have only had 500 on my back once while attempting to squat it. I was close, but it felt heavy as hell because I hadn't had more than 405 on my back up to that point since I started training.
I'm hoping he'll have me do a single with 450-475 within the next month so I can get abit acclimated to the weight before making such a big jump.
It makes a difference mentally and physically the way the weight feels.
I've gained alot more respect for squat weights now that I'm pushing close to 500, especially raw. The difference between unracking and walking out 500 vs 315 is night and day so I imagine it's similar walking out 600+ etc.
I'm starting to understand the whole thing about mindset as well. I'm strong enough to squat 500 there abouts right now and I believe I can, but you "really" have to believe you can when it comes time to do it and you have to set your mind right. You have to believe you can lift the weight and continue to lift even heavier weight. It's becoming almost as much mental strength as physical at this point and I think it'll be that way even more so when I squat 600. If you don't think you can lift it you won't lift it and if you don't know you can lift it you probably won't.
yea thats how it is, when it comes down to it u gotta know u can do it, when i did 455 it was ecause 405 felt light. next time i tried 455, 315 felt heavy and 405 fet almost like a 1RM so trying 455 i was already in the mindset of "idk if i can do it but i have to try"
what week of cycle r u on bro? how many weeks r u doin, and are u adding dbol or a prohormone?
what week of cycle r u on bro? how many weeks r u doin, and are u adding dbol or a prohormone?
ghettostudmuffin
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I'm on 375mg sustanon a week atm. This is basically turning out to be a long low dose cycle. I've been on for about 10 weeks now. Think I'm gonna run it to around 20 weeks. I've done it before in the past with low dose and didn't have a problem recovering with a little hcg and nolva/clomid.
The sust is the only thing I have been on the whole time. I couldn't afford to buy anything else to go with it. Gains have been nice and steady though so long as my food intake and protein intake is good.
Deadlift Day
Rack Pulls starting about 2" below the knee.
135x2x5
225x2x5
315x1x10
405x6
455x5
500x no go
405x no go
Stiff-legged Dead slow pull 135x2x8
I couldn't break the 500 off the bars because I need to build my upperback strength up. It wants to fold over and I think it's limiting my true strength. I'm going to look into assistance work for this. We stripped the bar immediately after the 500 no go to 405 and when I tried to pull my upperback just wasn't there. I used to think my lowerback might be my weak point, but now I'm thinking I need to add shrugs and maybe face pulls with my rows. Definitely will look into it.
LOL
Bodyweight 252lbs, It's like if I have a solid heavy workout now I'm going to gain weight from it lol, wtf.
The sust is the only thing I have been on the whole time. I couldn't afford to buy anything else to go with it. Gains have been nice and steady though so long as my food intake and protein intake is good.
Deadlift Day
Rack Pulls starting about 2" below the knee.
135x2x5
225x2x5
315x1x10
405x6
455x5
500x no go
405x no go
Stiff-legged Dead slow pull 135x2x8
I couldn't break the 500 off the bars because I need to build my upperback strength up. It wants to fold over and I think it's limiting my true strength. I'm going to look into assistance work for this. We stripped the bar immediately after the 500 no go to 405 and when I tried to pull my upperback just wasn't there. I used to think my lowerback might be my weak point, but now I'm thinking I need to add shrugs and maybe face pulls with my rows. Definitely will look into it.
LOL
Bodyweight 252lbs, It's like if I have a solid heavy workout now I'm going to gain weight from it lol, wtf.
haha just expect a lb with each heavy workout! j/k
Damn bro i thought u were gonn run 750mg. I loved it but i understand it will shut u down and if ur doin 20 weeks dont u think there will be a point where the gains will stall? Maybe add a prohormone at the end?
Damn bro i thought u were gonn run 750mg. I loved it but i understand it will shut u down and if ur doin 20 weeks dont u think there will be a point where the gains will stall? Maybe add a prohormone at the end?
ghettostudmuffin
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I don't believe in stalled gains on a cycle.
Imo that either comes down to not working hard enough or not eating enough.
My strength has been steadily rising as well as my bodyweight, but it was before I was on anyhow just from lifting again and eating more protein.
I don't need aas to gain strength and size. It just makes the process faster and more efficient.
Considering my dose is not much and I'm still steadily gaining it really boils down to hard progressive workouts and eating enough to fuel them. Add in enhanced anabolism from the testosterone and it's smooth sailing.
I was going to run 750mg, but I didn't have the ai to combat possible high estro sides. There's a good chance I wouldn't have had a problem since I run 500mg ew np, but I didn't want to risk it. Then I realized I have been making steady gains the whole time on 500mg and then 375mg ew so why go up if I don't need to?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. At the end of the day hard workouts and lot's of food trumps all.
It may be a different story for a guy like you though because you are not eating as much as me so you aren't constantly gaining weight aka surplus calories. Your strength has gone up great and you still look quite lean so it may require more anabolics if the calories aren't as high to get the same effect as a heavy caloric surplus like I am eating. The difference is you look great and I look like a stocky thick powerlifter.
One thing I can say for sure is that you look a shit ton better than me. I'll be honest. I don't look that good lol. I'm bloated with a big goatee and have abit of a gut. My ass and thighs are getting huge. My thighs half way up the leg are 28.5" cold.
With my build I hold fat pretty well, but I still am chubbin it and as I get bigger I get stockier looking. My shoulders are probably as wide as yours are, but your waist is way smaller than mine and my hips are wider. I look like a thick brick vs your aesthetically pleasing build lol.
Imo that either comes down to not working hard enough or not eating enough.
My strength has been steadily rising as well as my bodyweight, but it was before I was on anyhow just from lifting again and eating more protein.
I don't need aas to gain strength and size. It just makes the process faster and more efficient.
Considering my dose is not much and I'm still steadily gaining it really boils down to hard progressive workouts and eating enough to fuel them. Add in enhanced anabolism from the testosterone and it's smooth sailing.
I was going to run 750mg, but I didn't have the ai to combat possible high estro sides. There's a good chance I wouldn't have had a problem since I run 500mg ew np, but I didn't want to risk it. Then I realized I have been making steady gains the whole time on 500mg and then 375mg ew so why go up if I don't need to?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. At the end of the day hard workouts and lot's of food trumps all.
It may be a different story for a guy like you though because you are not eating as much as me so you aren't constantly gaining weight aka surplus calories. Your strength has gone up great and you still look quite lean so it may require more anabolics if the calories aren't as high to get the same effect as a heavy caloric surplus like I am eating. The difference is you look great and I look like a stocky thick powerlifter.
One thing I can say for sure is that you look a shit ton better than me. I'll be honest. I don't look that good lol. I'm bloated with a big goatee and have abit of a gut. My ass and thighs are getting huge. My thighs half way up the leg are 28.5" cold.
With my build I hold fat pretty well, but I still am chubbin it and as I get bigger I get stockier looking. My shoulders are probably as wide as yours are, but your waist is way smaller than mine and my hips are wider. I look like a thick brick vs your aesthetically pleasing build lol.
I don't believe in stalled gains on a cycle.
Imo that either comes down to not working hard enough or not eating enough.
My strength has been steadily rising as well as my bodyweight, but it was before I was on anyhow just from lifting again and eating more protein.
I don't need aas to gain strength and size. It just makes the process faster and more efficient.
Considering my dose is not much and I'm still steadily gaining it really boils down to hard progressive workouts and eating enough to fuel them. Add in enhanced anabolism from the testosterone and it's smooth sailing.
I was going to run 750mg, but I didn't have the ai to combat possible high estro sides. There's a good chance I wouldn't have had a problem since I run 500mg ew np, but I didn't want to risk it. Then I realized I have been making steady gains the whole time on 500mg and then 375mg ew so why go up if I don't need to?
I've said it before and I'll say it again. At the end of the day hard workouts and lot's of food trumps all.
It may be a different story for a guy like you though because you are not eating as much as me so you aren't constantly gaining weight aka surplus calories. Your strength has gone up great and you still look quite lean so it may require more anabolics if the calories aren't as high to get the same effect as a heavy caloric surplus like I am eating. The difference is you look great and I look like a stocky thick powerlifter.
One thing I can say for sure is that you look a shit ton better than me. I'll be honest. I don't look that good lol. I'm bloated with a big goatee and have abit of a gut. My ass and thighs are getting huge. My thighs half way up the leg are 28.5" cold.
With my build I hold fat pretty well, but I still am chubbin it and as I get bigger I get stockier looking. My shoulders are probably as wide as yours are, but your waist is way smaller than mine and my hips are wider. I look like a thick brick vs your aesthetically pleasing build lol.
lol well when ur 95lbs ur freshman year in highschool and ur smaller than the girls i think i deserve to be lean without having to try, God didnt want me to be big
But i honestly would have ur look if i didnt have my look, id wanna be bigand strong, not fat to the point where im obese and got a big gut. You sound like ur just a powerhouse, middle linebacker type, not a defensive lineman. I honestly think that build looks sick and u can get pretty fuckin strong too sine ur 50lbs heavier than me, which is a plus.
next cycle u gotta run 750mg, but i agree its still gonna give u results if ur eating. yea i might have abs but ur a fuckin beast bro. and results are fantastic so far and ur only half way thru.
keep it up homie i check ur log every day
ghettostudmuffin
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Ya, now that you mention it Glad that's exactly what a rock climber said to me back when I was around 205lbs. I he said I looked like a middle linebacker and when he watched me climb he thought of a silverback gorilla lmfao. When I watched him climb absolutely ripped to the bone and fast and fluid I thought Bruce Lee.
There are definitely pluses and minuses to our builds/genetics for sure. I gain weight easily and I'll be able to hold 275lbs of weight without undue stress. You on the other hand have the build to look like a serious bodybuilder/athlete with the strength to back it up.
I will try 750mg at some point in the future as I really want to see how 750mg or more effects me, but right now I don't have the money to afford all the ancillaries just to be safe.
Feck I wish roids weren't illegal. I want a huge stash of sust and dbol and I would be a happy camper lol.
There are definitely pluses and minuses to our builds/genetics for sure. I gain weight easily and I'll be able to hold 275lbs of weight without undue stress. You on the other hand have the build to look like a serious bodybuilder/athlete with the strength to back it up.
I will try 750mg at some point in the future as I really want to see how 750mg or more effects me, but right now I don't have the money to afford all the ancillaries just to be safe.
Feck I wish roids weren't illegal. I want a huge stash of sust and dbol and I would be a happy camper lol.
