A ? for the married.

[genetic freak]

How many of you have wives (or husbands) that have taken the time to learn about the bodybuilding lifestyle, and the possible "negative" (opinion) side effects that happen to exist, and have still given you the green light?

In my case, I consider myself very lucky for many reasons.....

 

[kethnaab]

my wife has given me the go-ahead once I get out of the service, but I can't bring any gear into the house for obvious legal reasons.

 

[jc1908]

no, my wife is a huge cardio girl...does 1.5 hrs of cardio a day but eats shit that a catfish would have trouble digesting..she's been around me for 7 yrs now(5 yrs i was not lifting because of torn rotators,but still working out) she wonders why she can't get her BF down even though she's down to like a size 2..but i'm not sure exactly what your q was, but she has a basic understanding of the "life" and the obsession we have. keep in mind i played football for most of my life and i coach my oldest sons team(her step son)..so alot of test flowing in the household..and NO, she has very little knowledge of gear, or what gear i do. it's better that way for me..

 

[BigCracker]

Bodybuilding is the #1 reason I'm 35 and never been married. Any girl that has a decent amount of self respect is not going to play 2nd fiddle to your time at the gym, dietary requirements, and gear budget. I won't even get into the part about living under the same roof with illegal drugs in the house and/or you purchasing them illegally as well. Another factor is your roller coaster sex drive-most chicks can't keep up and resent you for making them do it more than they want to. It makes them feel like a real life plastic fuck doll. Trust me on this, for most chicks the novelty of having a big muscular man for a boyfriend/hubby wears off pretty quick. Their initial attraction to you is based on your appearance, but as they see what it actually involves for you to look like you do, dating some pencilneck doesn't seem so bad.

Think about it like this-you meet some supermodel and fuck the hell out of her. You share a few laughs and go on a few dates that go well. After a few more dates you notice that she's always taking trips to the bathroom to puke up her meal and snort a few lines of blow-or maybe even mainline some heroin? Ultimately she feels that she needs to do these things to be thin. You care about her and try to get her to quit living this unhealthy lifestyle. Good luck. If she quits, she'll resent you for making her quit(no more sex for you partner) and eventually dump you to go back to the only lifestyle that she knows. Why date a girl that has so much emotional baggage when there are other ones out there with much less? Same goes for girls that date bodybuilders.

One solution would be for husband and wifey to both share the same BB lifestyle? But I'd be worried my chick was tapping into my supply of gear 24/7-cuz I know I'd be dipping into her stash as soon as she left the house. lol Seriously, most BB couples I know of have serious drama in their relationship. No thanks.

 

[bittersuit_98]

It could be a catch 22. I guess it's better that if they don't ask then don't tell. If they know that u are using the gear they might freak out on you and it'll take the mile to convince them that gear is safe with all the "if's" inherent to safe use of steroids. Then it comes the legal part of the deal, you know, if you're buying black market juice, should you tell your wife what you're doing to obtain so she is aware in case she notices some suspiscious activity?, or should you u just be very very careful when doing so and keeping your wife and other family members out of trouble?. I've heard some stories here at the EF boards where ex wives or ex gf's turned their ex's in to the cops after spliting up. That's fucking scarry!!!!

 

[genetic freak]

And here we go... that didnt take long.

What I meant by my post is that your signifigant other understands why (personal reason's) and what these drugs are doing. What you have done is demonstrated exactly why I made this post. The general opinion is that the "bodybuilding lifestyle" in the end turns out to be negative. That is not at all where I wanted to go with this, I am merely trying to connect with the people who are informed with the facts.

Either you are a mass monster who has no ability to find the right person or you are very unlucky. Whatever the problem is, I am sorry that you have to feel that way. Better luck next time.

 

[genetic freak]

I did not mean to get into the legal aspects in this post. The fact that nothing illegal has ever entered my home is something that I overlooked when I originally posed this question.

 

[BigCracker]

And here we go... that didnt take long.

What I meant by my post is that your signifigant other understands why (personal reason's) and what these drugs are doing. What you have done is demonstrated exactly why I made this post. The general opinion is that the "bodybuilding lifestyle" in the end turns out to be negative. That is not at all where I wanted to go with this, I am merely trying to connect with the people who are informed with the facts.

Either you are a mass monster who has no ability to find the right person or you are very unlucky. Whatever the problem is, I am sorry that you have to feel that way. Better luck next time.

I'm assuming this was directed towards me, so please allow me to retort. First of all 99% of marriages are a total joke. Lying, infidelity, and leading a secret life behind your spouse's back are all too common. How many guys do you know that cheat on their wives? And if a married/commited guy is so fugly that he's incapable of getting laid elsewhere, that doesn't count as monogomy in my book. Most guys are only as faithful as their options. Just because I don't want to settle down with someone that I need to hide my bad habits from doesn't mean I'm incapable of finding someone to be with long term. I simply refuse to pretend that I'm someone that I'm not for anyone. Why should I end up a part of our rising 60% divorce rate statistic? Unlike most guys, if I have to hide anything, or if I can't act a certain way when my woman is around, I'd rather be sentenced to a life of loneliness and internet porn. Some guys are so insecure they'll completely become a different person to keep their steady supply of ass around. Ex. "Honey, I'm natural, not like those steeeer-oid gorillas on espn. I love you and the kids too much to put my health on the line. Can I massage your back???" 20 minutes later this guy's at work banging his secretary on his desk-before working out he slams 1500mgs of sustanon. IMNSHO that's not a marriage-it's a legally binding contract that will affect you until your children are 18 and nothing more. I'm not knocking anybody for living their life with a social mask on 24/7. I just think it's difficult to remain in a honest, healthy, relationship with someone if you're going to hide your gear use from them for the sake of keeping the peace. Who knows? Maybe your old lady is banging the mailman and she hides it from you for the sake of keeping the peace in your relationship? Betrayal comes in many forms-a needle in your ass? or another guy's cock in your old lady's ass? Lying is lying. Lying by omission is lying too. I'm sure there are girls out there that won't care about your roid use-but it's been my experience that after a few yrs the lifestyle will inevitably become an issue.

 

[djsf]

This is shaping up to be a very interesting thread...

 

[phatrr]

Let me start by saying that mrs. phatrr rocks!

It might be a sham of a marriage, hell, we've only been at it 15 years, what do we know. This trust (and it's a mutual thing) extends to other areas. Just the other night at a dinner party some of the wives/gf's were saying "I wouldn't let my husband/bf do that". Mrs. phatrr said "I trust phatrr to do what he needs to do and what is right for him. He won't do anything retarded crazy."

 

[biggersbetter]

I'm assuming this was directed towards me, so please allow me to retort. First of all 99% of marriages are a total joke. Lying, infidelity, and leading a secret life behind your spouse's back are all too common. How many guys do you know that cheat on their wives? And if a married/commited guy is so fugly that he's incapable of getting laid elsewhere, that doesn't count as monogomy in my book. Most guys are only as faithful as their options. Just because I don't want to settle down with someone that I need to hide my bad habits from doesn't mean I'm incapable of finding someone to be with long term. I simply refuse to pretend that I'm someone that I'm not for anyone. Why should I end up a part of our rising 60% divorce rate statistic? Unlike most guys, if I have to hide anything, or if I can't act a certain way when my woman is around, I'd rather be sentenced to a life of loneliness and internet porn. Some guys are so insecure they'll completely become a different person to keep their steady supply of ass around. Ex. "Honey, I'm natural, not like those steeeer-oid gorillas on espn. I love you and the kids too much to put my health on the line. Can I massage your back???" 20 minutes later this guy's at work banging his secretary on his desk-before working out he slams 1500mgs of sustanon. IMNSHO that's not a marriage-it's a legally binding contract that will affect you until your children are 18 and nothing more. I'm not knocking anybody for living their life with a social mask on 24/7. I just think it's difficult to remain in a honest, healthy, relationship with someone if you're going to hide your gear use from them for the sake of keeping the peace. Who knows? Maybe your old lady is banging the mailman and she hides it from you for the sake of keeping the peace in your relationship? Betrayal comes in many forms-a needle in your ass? or another guy's cock in your old lady's ass? Lying is lying. Lying by omission is lying too. I'm sure there are girls out there that won't care about your roid use-but it's been my experience that after a few yrs the lifestyle will inevitably become an issue.

Bravo to that...How can you argue with Honesty?

good luck bro...if tyou want it i'msure that you'll find it.
BB

 

[genetic freak]

Maybe the thread should have been called "How many of us take steroids and are honest with our wives/husbands?"

 

[LT3]

bros i think, and this is just my opinion, if you dont tell ure girl/wife about your gear use, or anything else for that reason, then you're making a mistake. because like BC said lying is lying, regardless of what. another thing is that, if you tell your wife/girl about it and she flips out and leaves you, then you were with the wrong girl to begin with. personally i have no problem telling her, and the people around me, fam and close friends, accept it. so i dont have to worry about "o whos gonna find out". IMO if you have to hide your gear in the house of you your wife and kids then you got some problems. ones business is ones businsess, and this is just my opinion but like BC said before lying is lying, whether its gear or sex.

 

[temetrepo]

I respect everyone's opinion here, from the married to the single. I have to say that in my case my wife was aware and informed about it. There were no lies, as a matter of fact we both learned a lot from this experience. Personally I can not consieve why a person would marry and yet go around their wife's back and do things which at the end will prove deadly for the marriage.

If this is your approach to marriage, then something is wrong. I guess is a matter of principles and priorities....


Regards.

 

[LT3]

I respect everyone's opinion here, from the married to the single. I have to say that in my case my wife was aware and informed about it. There were no lies, as a matter of fact we both learned a lot from this experience. Personally I can not consieve why a person would marry and yet go around their wife's back and do things which at the end will prove deadly for the marriage.

If this is your approach to marriage, then something is wrong. I guess is a matter of principles and priorities....


Regards.

I agree with all points. Remember bros gear is as bad as you make it out to be. i speak about the subject as if its taking protein powder and thats how the people around me see it. because i make it normal, they perceive it as normal. But if you go around hiding it taking it secretly, then what are people gonna think. Negative, because of the things that you are associating with it. most of the time the girl or fam or friends wont get mad at the thing that you are hiding, instead the get mad at the fact that you are hiding it.

 

[bicepts101]

i told my girl from day one what i do. we now live together and she does most of my injections. she get mad when i dont let her do it cause she thinks she does it better.

 

[LT3]

i told my girl from day one what i do. we now live together and she does most of my injections. she get mad when i dont let her do it cause she thinks she does it better.

LOL, ye its weird eh. every girl that i know wants to do my injections. i guess they think it strengthens the relationsship or something. LOL.

 

[Ulter]

All my wives and gf's have learned all about AS because I school them. It's the only way to exist together.

 

[bicepts101]

LOL, ye its weird eh. every girl that i know wants to do my injections. i guess they think it strengthens the relationsship or something. LOL.

LOL yeah maybe they feel its some kind of bonding idk. she is getting good though. the only injects i do now are quads and bis

 

[big49ersfan]

k i have been on one cycle a bulker put on like 2olbs my misses kinda knew but as i was eating everything in sight 34/ 7 plus i had a tub of superdrol and creo on the tab next to my bed etc and so she kinda believed me that i was still natural

i dont know if she really did but didnt push too hard

im extremely interested in this post as i dont know if i should or shouldnt tell my misses (girl friend not wife but of 3 years).

im doing a nother cyle after the new year a cutter it may be obvious she may pretend not to realise if you get me

basically i decided not to tell her i regret it and i now i feel like if i do i do tell her i have lied all ready so what the hell il carry on lying

im confused should i or should i tell her.

My mum will never ever know nuff sad my mates and my brother (he injects me) they say i should watch my health but that is it. but my misses is deeply agaist drugs or anyknid i tried to broach the subject with her she started to cry and sya i would thing a lot less of you if you did

what should i do??

 

[dullboy]

I'm assuming this was directed towards me, so please allow me to retort. First of all 99% of marriages are a total joke. Lying, infidelity, and leading a secret life behind your spouse's back are all too common. How many guys do you know that cheat on their wives? And if a married/commited guy is so fugly that he's incapable of getting laid elsewhere, that doesn't count as monogomy in my book. Most guys are only as faithful as their options. Just because I don't want to settle down with someone that I need to hide my bad habits from doesn't mean I'm incapable of finding someone to be with long term. I simply refuse to pretend that I'm someone that I'm not for anyone. Why should I end up a part of our rising 60% divorce rate statistic? Unlike most guys, if I have to hide anything, or if I can't act a certain way when my woman is around, I'd rather be sentenced to a life of loneliness and internet porn. Some guys are so insecure they'll completely become a different person to keep their steady supply of ass around. Ex. "Honey, I'm natural, not like those steeeer-oid gorillas on espn. I love you and the kids too much to put my health on the line. Can I massage your back???" 20 minutes later this guy's at work banging his secretary on his desk-before working out he slams 1500mgs of sustanon. IMNSHO that's not a marriage-it's a legally binding contract that will affect you until your children are 18 and nothing more. I'm not knocking anybody for living their life with a social mask on 24/7. I just think it's difficult to remain in a honest, healthy, relationship with someone if you're going to hide your gear use from them for the sake of keeping the peace. Who knows? Maybe your old lady is banging the mailman and she hides it from you for the sake of keeping the peace in your relationship? Betrayal comes in many forms-a needle in your ass? or another guy's cock in your old lady's ass? Lying is lying. Lying by omission is lying too. I'm sure there are girls out there that won't care about your roid use-but it's been my experience that after a few yrs the lifestyle will inevitably become an issue.

dude i enjoy reading your posts so don't be too offended when i tell you that you're the most cynical and jaded guy i think i've ever come across. you make bill maher look like an optimist.

you seem to have caught a terrible case of misogyny somewhere along the line.

*anecdote* - my friend lena, who happens to be a straight up bomb perfect 10, asked me the other day why all guys are scumbags, and i told her "lena - it's not that all guys are scumbags - you're just attracted to the scumbags".

i think you're the male version of lena.

 

[dullboy]

dullboys wife isn't in love with the idea of chemical enhancement, but she loves dullboy dearly so she deals with it.

 

[genetic freak]

I think it might make a good poll question, as far whether you are honest or not with your significant other (married or not.)

 

[surferstar]

All my wives and gf's have learned all about AS because I school them. It's the only way to exist together.

Exactly. If its a part of your life then she should understand and be open to your ideas and education. Before I approached my fiance, i sat her down, told her exactly what i was taking, whats the sides, and all the risks. Then reassured their safety if taken right. And because she knows I'm on here alot. She knows i will be safe in what I do and was very happy i told her and included her in what I was doing. From then on. she can't wait till i get my gear and she wants to poke me with it too. So becuase I fully explained it to her, she has a great understand and supports me 100%. In fact shes now motivated even more to hit the gym with me and get back into fenom shape, just order her some Yes and some calipers LOL.

 

[axe3]

mrs axe knows about all of the gas that the axe takes. She has done a rip of var herself.

 

[swordfish151]

The headline says married....im not married, but my current GF enjoys reading about it..funny enough..never showed interest at all..but it goes to show if a women really loves you then she will do anything to make you happy...anyway..my GF does my injections....and does read articles that i supply her to make her aware....she's always asking "how's the board?" lol

 

[LT3]

k i have been on one cycle a bulker put on like 2olbs my misses kinda knew but as i was eating everything in sight 34/ 7 plus i had a tub of superdrol and creo on the tab next to my bed etc and so she kinda believed me that i was still natural

i dont know if she really did but didnt push too hard

im extremely interested in this post as i dont know if i should or shouldnt tell my misses (girl friend not wife but of 3 years).

im doing a nother cyle after the new year a cutter it may be obvious she may pretend not to realise if you get me

basically i decided not to tell her i regret it and i now i feel like if i do i do tell her i have lied all ready so what the hell il carry on lying

im confused should i or should i tell her.

My mum will never ever know nuff sad my mates and my brother (he injects me) they say i should watch my health but that is it. but my misses is deeply agaist drugs or anyknid i tried to broach the subject with her she started to cry and sya i would thing a lot less of you if you did

what should i do??

Bro i dont mean to sound like an ass, but you should have told her from the begining. back then it is simple, you accept it or you dont if not then bounce. but now its more complex, because its not like you can just throw 3 yrs down the crapper.

 

[prdemon]

my wife knew from day one since she is the one who gave me my "darts" since im not to fond of needles. wev'e been together for nine years

 

[big49ersfan]

It3 so basically i should just man up now???

you dont sound like an ass im a begginner your more expierenced than me your opinion counts

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I am lucky..my girl soon to be wife supports me 100%

When we first started dating i wasnt that active in the sport of BB because i was comming off of back surgury..Once i got the clear from the docs and i jumped right back in to it...it was a little difficult at first..but she realized this is me and if she wants to be with me she has to accept it...she actually showed interest and wanted me to teach her that way she knew what she was looking at when we went to shows or when i tried to talk to her.

Is she 100% ok with the Steroids...no..she is ok with me doing them but is just worried about my health

 

[BigCracker]

dude i enjoy reading your posts so don't be too offended when i tell you that you're the most cynical and jaded guy i think i've ever come across. you make bill maher look like an optimist.

you seem to have caught a terrible case of misogyny somewhere along the line.

*anecdote* - my friend lena, who happens to be a straight up bomb perfect 10, asked me the other day why all guys are scumbags, and i told her "lena - it's not that all guys are scumbags - you're just attracted to the scumbags".

i think you're the male version of lena.

No offense taken. If anyone's aware of my pessimism, it's me. Funny you say that about Maher, he and I have a similar outlook on most issues-besides guns/gun control-cuz I'm a Desert Eagle .44 toting motherfucker. Wallet-check, cell phone-check, hand canon-check-ok-I'm off to the gym and completely prepared to thwart off any attempt of car jacking along the way.

Seriously though, I don't think most people set their standards high enough when choosing a lifetime mate. I think a lot of guys get so pre-occupied with the poon that they sell themselves out for cheap by having to revamp their lifestyles and hide their less desirable habits from their wives/gf's. I'm often criticized for my negative views towards women, but I don't think it's a bad thing. I'd much rather be a callous bastard than be in a relationship/marriage that's full of lies and deception. I can't even count the number of bachelor parties that I've been to where the groom gets fucked by a stripper. Why is this guy even getting married if he needs one last piece of strange so badly? Personally I've met my lifetime's quota of lays. Most guys never will. So even happily married guys won't pass up free ass if it presents itself. To me it takes a real man to be faithful and honest with his wife/gf. Lying and cheating makes you a wuss.

Something that really cracks me up is the pay phone at the gym. In this day and age where even people with the shittiest credit can have a cell phone, every night there's 2-3 guys waiting in line to use the gym's public pay phone. Obviously they're the married guys waiting to call their girlfriends on the side so wifey won't see any strange phone #'s on their cell phone bills. All that sneaking around just seems like too much work to get laid to me.

 

[LT3]

It3 so basically i should just man up now???

you dont sound like an ass im a begginner your more expierenced than me your opinion counts

Bro honestly at the stage that you are right now, you have to see what your priorities are. if she says "its me or the gear" What will you pick. but as far as telling her, personally i like honesty. as i said a lot of people wont get mad at the fact that you did gear, they'll get mad at the fact that you did gear behind their backs. hopefully if you do decide to tell her, and try to educate her, show her the steroid special that is on this site. tell her facts and expand her knowledge on the issue, while addressing myths created by the media. but like i said bro, prioritize, whats more important your gear or your girl.

 

[BigCracker]

I am lucky..my girl soon to be wife supports me 100%

When we first started dating i wasnt that active in the sport of BB because i was comming off of back surgury..Once i got the clear from the docs and i jumped right back in to it...it was a little difficult at first..but she realized this is me and if she wants to be with me she has to accept it...she actually showed interest and wanted me to teach her that way she knew what she was looking at when we went to shows or when i tried to talk to her.

Is she 100% ok with the Steroids...no..she is ok with me doing them but is just worried about my health

Sorting all this shit out is so important and in the long run has to be so much more rewarding than walking on eggshells to hide it. Congrats bro. A spineless girly man you are not.

 

[Shellie]

You shouldn't ever lie about it. Tell her the truth. I don't mind my fiance doing gear as long as he's open with me about it and doesn't try to hide it. My point to him has always been, if he lies about doing the juice, then he's capable of lying about other things too and I just can't stand liars. I don't mind him doing it as long as I know what's up.

And as far as this topic goes, it sure does help if you're both into bodybuilding, otherwise I could easily see how a significant other would feel like they were coming in second. This surely is a selfish sport to be in. I'm glad we are BOTH spending just as much time in the gym TOGETHER, it makes for a great relationship.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Sorting all this shit out is so important and in the long run has to be so much more rewarding than walking on eggshells to hide it. Congrats bro. A spineless girly man you are not.

HAHAHA...thanks alot brother...


I think what helped alot was...i actually didnt tell her i was on gear...i did two cycles before i told her i was using again. I then looked at her and said...see...did i fit the stereotypes...was moody..did i want to kill you...aggressive...no im fine...look here is some bloodwork too...see im safe and healthy and you couldnt even tell...

Side not..all her prior b/f's were all fat fucks....she never dated anyone in to fitness

 

[BigCracker]

HAHAHA...thanks alot brother...


I think what helped alot was...i actually didnt tell her i was on gear...i did two cycles before i told her i was using again. I then looked at her and said...see...did i fit the stereotypes...was moody..did i want to kill you...aggressive...no im fine...look here is some bloodwork too...see im safe and healthy and you couldnt even tell...

Side not..all her prior b/f's were all fat fucks....she never dated anyone in to fitness

Although deceptive at first, your end result is where you wanted to be. Sometimes you need to save your girl from herself-not to mention her jealous, shit talking, idiotic, friends that wish they had a man with a killer bod. With all of the bullshit negative roid propaganda being pumped into the general public's ears for the past 20 yrs, I can't see a better way for you to have gone about this. I think the critical part is that your relationship was healthy enough that she had no reason to pull the steroid card after the fact.

 

[LT3]

You shouldn't ever lie about it. Tell her the truth. I don't mind my fiance doing gear as long as he's open with me about it and doesn't try to hide it. My point to him has always been, if he lies about doing the juice, then he's capable of lying about other things too and I just can't stand liars. I don't mind him doing it as long as I know what's up.

And as far as this topic goes, it sure does help if you're both into bodybuilding, otherwise I could easily see how a significant other would feel like they were coming in second. This surely is a selfish sport to be in. I'm glad we are BOTH spending just as much time in the gym TOGETHER, it makes for a great relationship.

Thats what im telling you guys.

 

[Big_Joe]

I'm assuming this was directed towards me, so please allow me to retort. First of all 99% of marriages are a total joke. Lying, infidelity, and leading a secret life behind your spouse's back are all too common. How many guys do you know that cheat on their wives? And if a married/commited guy is so fugly that he's incapable of getting laid elsewhere, that doesn't count as monogomy in my book. Most guys are only as faithful as their options. Just because I don't want to settle down with someone that I need to hide my bad habits from doesn't mean I'm incapable of finding someone to be with long term. I simply refuse to pretend that I'm someone that I'm not for anyone. Why should I end up a part of our rising 60% divorce rate statistic? Unlike most guys, if I have to hide anything, or if I can't act a certain way when my woman is around, I'd rather be sentenced to a life of loneliness and internet porn. Some guys are so insecure they'll completely become a different person to keep their steady supply of ass around. Ex. "Honey, I'm natural, not like those steeeer-oid gorillas on espn. I love you and the kids too much to put my health on the line. Can I massage your back???" 20 minutes later this guy's at work banging his secretary on his desk-before working out he slams 1500mgs of sustanon. IMNSHO that's not a marriage-it's a legally binding contract that will affect you until your children are 18 and nothing more. I'm not knocking anybody for living their life with a social mask on 24/7. I just think it's difficult to remain in a honest, healthy, relationship with someone if you're going to hide your gear use from them for the sake of keeping the peace. Who knows? Maybe your old lady is banging the mailman and she hides it from you for the sake of keeping the peace in your relationship? Betrayal comes in many forms-a needle in your ass? or another guy's cock in your old lady's ass? Lying is lying. Lying by omission is lying too. I'm sure there are girls out there that won't care about your roid use-but it's been my experience that after a few yrs the lifestyle will inevitably become an issue.

That's not true! That might be your jaded opinion but it's not true for me or anybody I know that is married. And I think this is really your problem with your relationships, you lie to your women. There is no way for a relationship to last if you lie. Realize that you're the cause of your problem not bodybuilding.

Myself I'm going on fifteen years and it's the greatest love affair I have ever had. And it's getting better all the time. I never lie to my wife. I even tell her when other women hit on me. It pisses her off sometimes but she's not pissed at me. I tell my wife everything. She is my life partner. If you don't look at your wife that way it's going to be really hard for you to have a lasting relationship.

 

[big49ersfan]

Umm so tell her i did a stack i lied and that i will do more basically see how she reacts

i dont think i am man enuff 2 be honest!!

the choice umm porbably the gear to be totally and uterrly honest it is important to me and if i cant do what i want to do then she isnt really for me thinking about

shit i have a lot of thinking to do

cheers for the eye opening!!

 

[LT3]

Umm so tell her i did a stack i lied and that i will do more basically see how she reacts

i dont think i am man enuff 2 be honest!!

the choice umm porbably the gear to be totally and uterrly honest it is important to me and if i cant do what i want to do then she isnt really for me thinking about

shit i have a lot of thinking to do

cheers for the eye opening!!

spend some time on this bro, make a dicision and good luck to you. if you need help we're right here.

 

[powderguy]

I respect everyone's opinion here, from the married to the single. I have to say that in my case my wife was aware and informed about it. There were no lies, as a matter of fact we both learned a lot from this experience. Personally I can not consieve why a person would marry and yet go around their wife's back and do things which at the end will prove deadly for the marriage.

If this is your approach to marriage, then something is wrong. I guess is a matter of principles and priorities....


Regards.

I agree 100%. This is why the divorce rate is over 50% in the US.

Peace.

 

[paridhm]

My wife has given me the green light. Although her mother, who is a nurse, has given her some information about sterility concerning aas usage. All the information she gave my wife could be usefull if I didn't know about proper pct. But I imagine the majority of her information is the normal bs propogratated by the media. The lack of knowledge by these so called "experts" disgusts me.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

All my wives and gf's have learned all about AS because I school them. It's the only way to exist together.

Ulter's into Polygamy??? Sweet!






































lmfao...j/k!

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I just keep saying one mo cycle, this one's the last, stuff like dat. I mean it at the time.

 

[loik4]

I'm married 18 years to the same woman, she knows everything now but didn't when I started many years ago - in my early thirties. She is a nurse and often gives me the shots when she is around or both of us are using the bathroom in the morning. She isn't 100% agreeable but decided to do some research herself when I told her I wasn't going to stop. Overtime she became okay with it. I don't keep massive amounts of AAS around so she is okay with that too. The HBO Video that I found on this website was a huge plus in helping her accept my using AAS, as long as it is done in a responsible manner. Like I said she isn't 100% agreeable, but neither am I with everything she does - that is what a marraige usually is if it going to work - honesty, trust and acceptance(to a certain degree). I feel sometimes I have to give in to her wants and needs, and sometimes she has to give in to mine. It works for us.

 

[BigCracker]

I'm married 18 years to the same woman, she knows everything now but didn't when I started many years ago - in my early thirties. She is a nurse and often gives me the shots when she is around or both of us are using the bathroom in the morning. She isn't 100% agreeable but decided to do some research herself when I told her I wasn't going to stop. Overtime she became okay with it. I don't keep massive amounts of AAS around so she is okay with that too. The HBO Video that I found on this website was a huge plus in helping her accept my using AAS, as long as it is done in a responsible manner. Like I said she isn't 100% agreeable, but neither am I with everything she does - that is what a marraige usually is if it going to work - honesty, trust and acceptance(to a certain degree). I feel sometimes I have to give in to her wants and needs, and sometimes she has to give in to mine. It works for us.

Another voice of reason. Props to the both of you. Comprimise is key. Communication as well.

 

[BigCracker]

That's not true! That might be your jaded opinion but it's not true for me or anybody I know that is married. And I think this is really your problem with your relationships, you lie to your women. There is no way for a relationship to last if you lie. Realize that you're the cause of your problem not bodybuilding.

Myself I'm going on fifteen years and it's the greatest love affair I have ever had. And it's getting better all the time. I never lie to my wife. I even tell her when other women hit on me. It pisses her off sometimes but she's not pissed at me. I tell my wife everything. She is my life partner. If you don't look at your wife that way it's going to be really hard for you to have a lasting relationship.

I'd like to know what planet you live on where everybody you know is so frikkin' happy in their marriage cuz I need to move their asap. I talk to a lot of married guys that say their workouts have never been better since they tied the knot and had kids. It's not because their life is more fulfilling. It's because they hate their life at home so much that they spend more time in the gym than ever to avoid being at home wiping asses and listening to their wives bitch.

My guess is that you're the one guy that's such a perfect husband in an exceptional relationship that your friends are too embarassed to reveal their true feelings about their own relationships around you. Hell, most probably can't even admit it to themselves??? Trust me on this, or our divorce rates wouldn't be skyrocketing like they are.

Think about it like this. If you're Mr Straight Laced Goody Two Shoes in your social circles, the guys who are smoking dope, doing coke, and banging hookers on the weekends are not going to discuss this stuff when you're around. I think the same applies to your relationship. You're a lucky bastard and you probably make most guys that are in sub-perfect relationships feel like shit about themselves. So the topics of infidelity/lying rarely ever even presents itself when you're around. When it is brought up, don't expect these guys to be honest about it. Not only will you make them feel stupid, they may worry that you'll rat out their unscrupulous behavior to their wives.

It's almost like you're a cop that has a few civilian friends that seem like normal, everyday, avg guys, but in their secret lives they are total criminals. They may really like you and enjoy hanging out with you too. However, friends or not, they're not going to discuss their next conspiracy to smuggle a few keys of blow cross-country or dispose of a dead body when their cop friend is around.

Generally speaking, I still say most relationships are a joke. My friend owns the biggest escort service in AZ. Some of his regular clientele are people that you would never expect to lie or cheat-including married mormon pastors, youth ministers, and tons of wealthy guys with trophy wives(that have the outward appearance of the perfect marriage). I could go on forever about this topic and how guys are fucking hookers on their couch while surrounded by pics of their wife/kids on top of the tv set.

Personally I think that you're such a nice guy, you can't even comprehend the avg married male's comprimised morality and just what length's he'll go to in order to keep his supply of ass on hand. That's not a bad thing-but I think you'll be real disappointed the day that you decide to analyze what's beneath the surface.

 

[GUESS]

Let me start by saying that mrs. phatrr rocks!

It might be a sham of a marriage, hell, we've only been at it 15 years, what do we know. This trust (and it's a mutual thing) extends to other areas. Just the other night at a dinner party some of the wives/gf's were saying "I wouldn't let my husband/bf do that". Mrs. phatrr said "I trust phatrr to do what he needs to do and what is right for him. He won't do anything retarded crazy."

You know what Bro?, I tell all my friends that are with someone that meeting someone like yours is totally possible and that all it takes is some patience. I have met many girls and I have yet to meet someone who is as reasonable as your wife, that is a definite bonus and I envy you. Seriously!


GUESS

 

[caligirl]

Let me start by saying that mrs. phatrr rocks!

It might be a sham of a marriage, hell, we've only been at it 15 years, what do we know. This trust (and it's a mutual thing) extends to other areas. Just the other night at a dinner party some of the wives/gf's were saying "I wouldn't let my husband/bf do that". Mrs. phatrr said "I trust phatrr to do what he needs to do and what is right for him. He won't do anything retarded crazy."

My husband and I have a similiar situation going on, (though, we have only been at it for 8 years.)

 

[BigCracker]

For 3 pages of posts, there sure aren't too many guys defending their relationship's open lines of communication. The few posts that do should be an inspiration to us all. Congrats to those that have figured it out because most never do.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Although deceptive at first, your end result is where you wanted to be. Sometimes you need to save your girl from herself-not to mention her jealous, shit talking, idiotic, friends that wish they had a man with a killer bod. With all of the bullshit negative roid propaganda being pumped into the general public's ears for the past 20 yrs, I can't see a better way for you to have gone about this. I think the critical part is that your relationship was healthy enough that she had no reason to pull the steroid card after the fact.

You are right on 100%...yes it was deceptive...but it was only to prove a point...i guess the bottom line is that im not going to stop being me for anyone...Im a BB and I use gear. So she either realized..ya its not so bad(well it can be...1500mg of Test can make a female sore..if you follow me)...or she was going to leave me for using gear...

 

[JuicePimp]

I can say from a position of experience, having been married for a good number of years now, honestly is not only the best choice, but the only option for a happy and prosperous marriage. This goes to all aspects of your life and relationship, not just AAS or marital fidelity or any other single aspect. If you are lying to your significant other, who are you really fooling, her? I doubt it. You have only fooled youself into thinking that things are ok.

 

[BigCracker]

So she either realized..ya its not so bad(well it can be...1500mg of Test can make a female sore..if you follow me)...or she was going to leave me for using gear...

This is an issue that really requires some self control. If my woman refused to have sex with me I used to be like "If Burger King is closed, I'm going to Jack In The Box cuz it's open 24/7/365" Now that I'm older I realize I was being completely unrealistic. I can't expect a girl to wanna fuck me 3-5 x a day, every day-even if I am Dirk Diggler. Then if I'm dieting, or going clean for awhile(God forbid!), they're gonna wonder what's up when my sex drive decreases temporarily. All cards gotta be on the table for this stuff no doubt. I just don't wanna end up in a sexless marriage like many guys get themselves into either. I often tell married guys that if you can get laid more as a single guy than you can as a married guy, you're probably married to the wrong girl. Also if your girlfriend won't fuck you as much as you want her to now, she sure as hell isn't going to fuck you more often after you marry her.

 

[genetic freak]

For 3 pages of posts, there sure aren't too many guys defending their relationship's open lines of communication. The few posts that do should be an inspiration to us all. Congrats to those that have figured it out because most never do.

The "inspiration" is exactly why I created this thread. It makes me feel great that I can share everything with my wife.

K to you.

 

[fivefold]

I told my girl about my gear at the start of our relationship. She had some questions and concerns but ultimately she embraced the idea. I just find it easier to tell the truth about everything in our relationship and not do things that I would have to lie about. I'm happy that way.

 

[dullboy]

No offense taken. If anyone's aware of my pessimism, it's me. Funny you say that about Maher, he and I have a similar outlook on most issues-besides guns/gun control-cuz I'm a Desert Eagle .44 toting motherfucker. Wallet-check, cell phone-check, hand canon-check-ok-I'm off to the gym and completely prepared to thwart off any attempt of car jacking along the way.

Seriously though, I don't think most people set their standards high enough when choosing a lifetime mate. I think a lot of guys get so pre-occupied with the poon that they sell themselves out for cheap by having to revamp their lifestyles and hide their less desirable habits from their wives/gf's. I'm often criticized for my negative views towards women, but I don't think it's a bad thing. I'd much rather be a callous bastard than be in a relationship/marriage that's full of lies and deception. I can't even count the number of bachelor parties that I've been to where the groom gets fucked by a stripper. Why is this guy even getting married if he needs one last piece of strange so badly? Personally I've met my lifetime's quota of lays. Most guys never will. So even happily married guys won't pass up free ass if it presents itself. To me it takes a real man to be faithful and honest with his wife/gf. Lying and cheating makes you a wuss.

Something that really cracks me up is the pay phone at the gym. In this day and age where even people with the shittiest credit can have a cell phone, every night there's 2-3 guys waiting in line to use the gym's public pay phone. Obviously they're the married guys waiting to call their girlfriends on the side so wifey won't see any strange phone #'s on their cell phone bills. All that sneaking around just seems like too much work to get laid to me.

i'm heart attack serious when i say that i enjoy reading your posts. you strike me as a smart guy with a lot of wisdom which is obviously based on life experience. an admirable combination. i always appreciate people who take the time to figure out the reasons why as opposed to those who just live and die.

but there is a point where you can become too jaded. i know there are a lot of shallow ass retards in the scottsdale area who like to judge people by what watch they wear and what car they drive, but those people generally lack any sort of character and therefore should be discounted to zero. I also know that there are a hella lot of cool ass people in the phoenix area who aren't such shallow pricks. if you find yourself being surrounded by shallow people all the time, it may be because you actually like it, sort of like my friend Lena who can't seem to grasp the concept that not all guys are scumbags, but rather, that she likes scumbag guys and surrounds herself with them.

 

[phatrr]

You know what Bro?, I tell all my friends that are with someone that meeting someone like yours is totally possible and that all it takes is some patience. I have met many girls and I have yet to meet someone who is as reasonable as your wife, that is a definite bonus and I envy you. Seriously!


GUESS

Thanks man; without mrs. phatrr, there is no phatrr. It's that simple.

 

[Big_Joe]

I'd like to know what planet you live on where everybody you know is so frikkin' happy in their marriage cuz I need to move their asap. I talk to a lot of married guys that say their workouts have never been better since they tied the knot and had kids. It's not because their life is more fulfilling. It's because they hate their life at home so much that they spend more time in the gym than ever to avoid being at home wiping asses and listening to their wives bitch.

My guess is that you're the one guy that's such a perfect husband in an exceptional relationship that your friends are too embarassed to reveal their true feelings about their own relationships around you. Hell, most probably can't even admit it to themselves??? Trust me on this, or our divorce rates wouldn't be skyrocketing like they are.

Think about it like this. If you're Mr Straight Laced Goody Two Shoes in your social circles, the guys who are smoking dope, doing coke, and banging hookers on the weekends are not going to discuss this stuff when you're around. I think the same applies to your relationship. You're a lucky bastard and you probably make most guys that are in sub-perfect relationships feel like shit about themselves. So the topics of infidelity/lying rarely ever even presents itself when you're around. When it is brought up, don't expect these guys to be honest about it. Not only will you make them feel stupid, they may worry that you'll rat out their unscrupulous behavior to their wives.

It's almost like you're a cop that has a few civilian friends that seem like normal, everyday, avg guys, but in their secret lives they are total criminals. They may really like you and enjoy hanging out with you too. However, friends or not, they're not going to discuss their next conspiracy to smuggle a few keys of blow cross-country or dispose of a dead body when their cop friend is around.

Generally speaking, I still say most relationships are a joke. My friend owns the biggest escort service in AZ. Some of his regular clientele are people that you would never expect to lie or cheat-including married mormon pastors, youth ministers, and tons of wealthy guys with trophy wives(that have the outward appearance of the perfect marriage). I could go on forever about this topic and how guys are fucking hookers on their couch while surrounded by pics of their wife/kids on top of the tv set.

Personally I think that you're such a nice guy, you can't even comprehend the avg married male's comprimised morality and just what length's he'll go to in order to keep his supply of ass on hand. That's not a bad thing-but I think you'll be real disappointed the day that you decide to analyze what's beneath the surface.

I live on planet earth. It's you that's not grounded. Man you just don't know me. I've smoked more dope and banged more babes before I was thirty then most men do in their whole lives. In my twenties I was a body guard for dope runners. I've been told I should write a book about my life. I'm anything but a goodie too shoes. As a matter of fact if you said that to my face I'd bitch slap you. But I didn't get married until I was 36. By that time I had matured, try it you might like it. I've been married going on fifteen years now. And I got to tell you it's great. I'm having the greatest love affair a man can have.

The reason that you and all your friends have problem in their relationships is because you and your friends have problems. Pull your head out of your ass, mature a lot more, don't lie EVER, and have integrity in everything you do. Put the happiness and wellfare of your spouse above your own. If your spouse loves you she will put your happiness and welfare above her own. This is what makes it work. The lack of integrity, lying and selfcenter attitude is the reason you have such failures in your relationships.

There is one more thing I will share with you. I had lot of girl friends before I met my wife. When the last one left with my car I asked myself "Why are all my relationships failing?" All the women had been very different. The only thing they had in common was we started our relationship sweating up the sheets. I made a decision not to have sex with my next girl friend for at lest a year after we started dating. I'm still married to her fifteen years later.

And if you got friends that are pimps running whores to go and you want a relationship that you can't put on your credit card you need to shit can all your low life friends and clean up your life! You are your worst problem.

 

[asianlover]

Bodybuilding is the #1 reason I'm 35 and never been married. Any girl that has a decent amount of self respect is not going to play 2nd fiddle to your time at the gym, dietary requirements, and gear budget. I won't even get into the part about living under the same roof with illegal drugs in the house and/or you purchasing them illegally as well. Another factor is your roller coaster sex drive-most chicks can't keep up and resent you for making them do it more than they want to. It makes them feel like a real life plastic fuck doll. Trust me on this, for most chicks the novelty of having a big muscular man for a boyfriend/hubby wears off pretty quick. Their initial attraction to you is based on your appearance, but as they see what it actually involves for you to look like you do, dating some pencilneck doesn't seem so bad.

Think about it like this-you meet some supermodel and fuck the hell out of her. You share a few laughs and go on a few dates that go well. After a few more dates you notice that she's always taking trips to the bathroom to puke up her meal and snort a few lines of blow-or maybe even mainline some heroin? Ultimately she feels that she needs to do these things to be thin. You care about her and try to get her to quit living this unhealthy lifestyle. Good luck. If she quits, she'll resent you for making her quit(no more sex for you partner) and eventually dump you to go back to the only lifestyle that she knows. Why date a girl that has so much emotional baggage when there are other ones out there with much less? Same goes for girls that date bodybuilders.

One solution would be for husband and wifey to both share the same BB lifestyle? But I'd be worried my chick was tapping into my supply of gear 24/7-cuz I know I'd be dipping into her stash as soon as she left the house. lol Seriously, most BB couples I know of have serious drama in their relationship. No thanks.

come on bro. there are a LOt of hot girl with low self esteme. just takes a little looking.

 

[kethnaab]

I've been married 11 years (almost 12) and the one thing that people are always stricken with is that my wife and I seem like newlyweds with how close and enamored with each other we are.

Honesty is a necessity, dishonesty is not an option. Want to see a marriage fall apart?

Lie. Break the trust. All it takes is one time, and the trust is gone.

 

[BigCracker]

I live on planet earth. It's you that's not grounded. Man you just don't know me. I've smoked more dope and banged more babes before I was thirty then most men do in their whole lives. In my twenties I was a body guard for dope runners. I've been told I should write a book about my life. I'm anything but a goodie too shoes. As a matter of fact if you said that to my face I'd bitch slap you.

Bitch slap. Great, you have a lot of confidence for not knowing who you're trash talking. You're just another internet tough guy that claims his younger days was like living in a Tarrantino Movie. I hope when I'm in my 50's I'm not talking on the internet about how gangsta hardcore I was in my younger days. As far as your autobiography goes, don't quit your day job. If I wanna hear that bs I'll watch FastLane.


I'm unimpressed by your bio or you Dr Phil pussified psychological views. I'm the one that's ripping on guys for living double lives, lying to their SO, and going to great extremes to hide their not so attractive qualities. . I don't care whether you're a goody two shoes or not. Either your social circles are abnormally full of faithful males or you refuse to see their true colors?

And what's this shit about putting your mate 1st? and she'll put you 1st? What if she has a kid? Does that mean I can be 2nd to her bastard kid? Wow! Thanks!!! Sign me up for that deal!!!

And who are you to say that I have a problem??? It's not like I'm sitting her crooning a sad lonely song. I'm just stating that I have certain standards most guys are willing to comprimise just to keep their supply of ass in check. I gotta go now-your faithful wife just IM'ed me to meet her at Motel 6 in an hour.

 

[genetic freak]

Well I learned a lesson here. I thought what I had was a good question that could be discussed without too much controversy. (of course I expected some) The result turned out to be a contest of who has the best online character by means of one upping each other, and then trying to justify who cares less about others. I appreciate all of the honest answers that were provided. In the end I guess I got what I wanted, I feel like a good person for being honest, plain and simple.

 

[Demonix]

It would be great to meet one of these ideal women who are all for aas. But unfortunately I always have crazy bitch chics attracted to me...

 

[genetic freak]

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[SgtSlaughter]

K to you, genetic freak, for trying. Good reads at any rate.

Although there were plenty of quality posts!

The threads always seem to veer off from the original purpose if not stated wholey, or after being sidetracked.

- SGT

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

Well, I've said it before and I'll say it again - no one knows about my gear usage - friends, wife, family, no one. No one except all of you wonderful people.

I honestly thought about why I don't tell my wife, and there are plenty of good reasons in my mind. I don't want her to worry, I don't want my balls broken, I don't want the info spread around to anyone (her sister, best friend, etc - told "in confidence."), and I doon't want to give anyone ammunition against me should things go bad down the road. I am not expecting them too, but that does happen.

One more thing, BigCracker is one funny dude. I enjoy the upfront and honest opinions, even if I don't agree with all of them.

I don't preach everyone to be silent about their usage - judge your own situation, but be smart.


Bluesman

 

[Loths]

When I was married, I told my wife about steriod... first I told her about how they really work, and the the media has mislabel them. Then i got some book about it.. by know she has formulated the idea that I have an interest... them I took if to a cycle, and at the very end, 4 week past my first cycle I told her. She was not static, but she was fairly warn... this is kind of what the media do to us.. they start talking about a conflict here, about a danger there, and a couple of year down the road, BOOM, we have a conflict. But hey, it works!