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A few questions for my upcoming cycle

Phiba Optik

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Hey folks just wanted to run some things down with you all.

My stats:

23 yo
6'2
205lbs
14-15% bf


I was going to do an 8 week cycle of prop (175ml EOD) and 50mg winny (maybe 4-6 weeks) pct 3 days after last pin.

My questions as follows:

Should I split the winny tab (its a 50mg tab) and if so, how should I dose it (As in 25mg in the morning and 25 pre workout or 25 per and 25 post or whatever)?

I was going to pin glutes and pecs. For pecs, would a 25g 1" suffice? I've never pinned pecs so Im kind of being a bitch about it haha.

Lastly, I will run adex but I know prop causes less bloat, so should I keep doses low since winny also contributes to joint pain?

PCT is what dylan has recommended so thats in check. got all my support supps and the whole nine yards.

All help is appreciated.
 
Also I forgot to add, I was going to pin prop in the morning EOD at like 8-9 pm and workouts probably at like 4pm. Is that fine (I know its not crucial to do preworkout since this isn't something like test suspension)
 
pec shots for 8 weeks ? ouch !

i never run winny but your test dose is fine...personally i would just run 500mg of enanthate.
less pinning same results.

timing on the shots do not have to be so specific..like you said yourself - its not suspension.

good luck.
 
I pinned pecs one time and will never do it again! I used a 25Gx1in pin and it hurt and it bruised hella dark. Shit hurt too. Lol

Check this place out to get some ideas on pinning.

SpotInjections.com

I pinnned my bicep with primo acetate, went and trained then couldn't straightend my arm for 3 days and had to walk around looking like i was handy capped....holy fuck that hurt, not the smartest thing i've ever done lol
 
pec shots for 8 weeks ? ouch !

i never run winny but your test dose is fine...personally i would just run 500mg of enanthate.
less pinning same results.

timing on the shots do not have to be so specific..like you said yourself - its not suspension.

good luck.

Well I was trying to do a short cycle. With enth, I'd have to do a 10-12 week cycle and honestly from my last cycle of test-e 500mg a week, I felt it "kicking in" on like the 7th-8th week.
 
Still awaiting any input:

Should I split the winny tab (its a 50mg tab) and if so, how should I dose it (As in 25mg in the morning and 25 pre workout or 25 per and 25 post or whatever)?

I was going to pin glutes and pecs. For pecs, would a 25g 1" suffice?

Lastly, I will run adex but I know prop causes less bloat, so should I keep doses low since winny also contributes to joint pain?
 
Still awaiting any input:

Should I split the winny tab (its a 50mg tab) and if so, how should I dose it (As in 25mg in the morning and 25 pre workout or 25 per and 25 post or whatever)?

I was going to pin glutes and pecs. For pecs, would a 25g 1" suffice?

Lastly, I will run adex but I know prop causes less bloat, so should I keep doses low since winny also contributes to joint pain?
 
yes, you will want to split the orals. Those have a very short half life so you want to split up the dosages throughout the day to maintain steady levels of the compound in your system. am and pm will suffice.

i would personally stay away from pinning pecks. stick with glutes and quads.

Prop won't cause a lot of bloat so that wont be a major concern. I think you should keep adex dosage normal at .5 mg eod since you will be shooting a good amount of prop each week. water may not be an issue with this cycle but don't forget about gyno.

for the joint pain, just make sure you are eating enough efas, using omegas 3's, and taking the proper support to go a long with the cycle and you should not have a problem.
 
I'm running test prop at the moment and there is no way I'd want the injection pain that I have in my quads, in my chest. Just saying.
 
yes, you will want to split the orals. Those have a very short half life so you want to split up the dosages throughout the day to maintain steady levels of the compound in your system. am and pm will suffice.

i would personally stay away from pinning pecks. stick with glutes and quads.

Prop won't cause a lot of bloat so that wont be a major concern. I think you should keep adex dosage normal at .5 mg eod since you will be shooting a good amount of prop each week. water may not be an issue with this cycle but don't forget about gyno.

for the joint pain, just make sure you are eating enough efas, using omegas 3's, and taking the proper support to go a long with the cycle and you should not have a problem.

I mean I get up at like 8am and my workouts usually start at 4pm or sometimes as late as 7pm, so how would I split the doses evenly then?
 
Also I was aiming for pecs because it seems easy. What problems (besides the pip from prop) are there in pinning pecs? I thought it would be easier since its large and easy to manuver around (I will be self injecting). I still have never done quads, so I'm afraid I'll fuck myself over with quads. I've checked out videos and spotinjections, but where on the quads would be an ideal spot. I've heard anywhere from upper outer, to half way above the knee etc. Also if I pin quads, what size needle would suffice (25g 1.5 inch?)

Thank you folks
 
Also I was aiming for pecs because it seems easy. What problems (besides the pip from prop) are there in pinning pecs? I thought it would be easier since its large and easy to manuver around (I will be self injecting). I still have never done quads, so I'm afraid I'll fuck myself over with quads. I've checked out videos and spotinjections, but where on the quads would be an ideal spot. I've heard anywhere from upper outer, to half way above the knee etc. Also if I pin quads, what size needle would suffice (25g 1.5 inch?)

Anyone?
 
Also I was aiming for pecs because it seems easy. What problems (besides the pip from prop) are there in pinning pecs? I thought it would be easier since its large and easy to manuver around (I will be self injecting). I still have never done quads, so I'm afraid I'll fuck myself over with quads. I've checked out videos and spotinjections, but where on the quads would be an ideal spot. I've heard anywhere from upper outer, to half way above the knee etc. Also if I pin quads, what size needle would suffice (25g 1.5 inch?)

Anyone?

Any injection is easy bro I do my glutes by myself no probs. Delta, quads, glutes ur best bet
 
Also I was aiming for pecs because it seems easy. What problems (besides the pip from prop) are there in pinning pecs? I thought it would be easier since its large and easy to manuver around (I will be self injecting). I still have never done quads, so I'm afraid I'll fuck myself over with quads. I've checked out videos and spotinjections, but where on the quads would be an ideal spot. I've heard anywhere from upper outer, to half way above the knee etc. Also if I pin quads, what size needle would suffice (25g 1.5 inch?)

Anyone?

Quads are easy if you do it right and go to the right area. The best I've found would be the "pants pockets area" for injections at not quite half way down the quad and more towards the side of the leg than on top. That worked great for me, and never had a problem
 
Quads are easy if you do it right and go to the right area. The best I've found would be the "pants pockets area" for injections at not quite half way down the quad and more towards the side of the leg than on top. That worked great for me, and never had a problem

Awesome, I'm a descriptive person and that "pants pocket" really helped me get a good idea! What size needle do you pin with in your quads?
 
Also, I get up at like 8am and my workouts usually start at 4pm or sometimes as late as 7pm, so how would I split the doses for the 50mg of var evenly then? I was thinking 25mg in the morning and 25mg maybe an hour before workout?
 
take the first serving a few hours after your wake up, and take the other half a little while after post workout. u just dont want to take them too close together.. or too far apart.
 
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