A challenging chore to start?.................

[Testosterone boy]

I am thinking of becoming an expert on this administration and hitting the speaking tour. It would be hard to find groups to listen to me at first but my public speaking skills can be very good. I think I could wind up speaking to large college groups and have some influence.

Why? I don't want to see the world Americanized through military operations. Why spread a culture that leads in:
Obesity
Litigation
Depression
Divorce
Incarceration
Hypertension
Lay offs
White collar crime

We really ought to work on our own problems instead of plundering the world so that the super rich become super richer.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

I am thinking of becoming an expert on this administration and hitting the speaking tour. It would be hard to find groups to listen to me at first but my public speaking skills can be very good. I think I could wind up speaking to large college groups and have some influence.

Why? I don't want to see the world Americanized through military operations. Why spread a culture that leads in:
Obesity
Litigation
Depression
Divorce
Incarceration
Hypertension
Lay offs
White collar crime

We really ought to work on our own problems instead of plundering the world so that the super rich become super richer.

I would not pay to see you speak! What would you tell me that I do not already know or need to know? But good luck in your endevor!

 

[Testosterone boy]

Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

I would not pay to see you speak! What would you tell me that I do not already know or need to know? But good luck in your endevor!

I wasn't planning on charging homeboy! If I just wanted money, I'd go into the porn or liquor business.

College kids paying to hear a no name warn about developing trends? I doubt that.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

I wasn't planning on charging homeboy! If I just wanted money, I'd go into the porn or liquor business.

College kids paying to hear a no name warn about developing trends? I doubt that.

Well Homeslice, I still would not go if you plan on educating college students even for free! I would not be caught dead on a College campus ever again! I payed my time years ago! How about Conventions or Private Clubs maybe? Or will you become one of those "Street Preachers?"

 

[Testosterone boy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

Well Homeslice, I still would not go if you plan on educating college students even for free! I would not be caught dead on a College campus ever again! I payed my time years ago! How about Conventions or Private Clubs maybe? Or will you become one of those "Street Preachers?"

OK....I'll have to live with Dcup being in absentia.

I'd probably speak to almost any group, at least at first, but I would never preach on the streets....that would be crazy.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

OK....I'll have to live with Dcup being in absentia.

I'd probably speak to almost any group, at least at first, but I would never preach on the streets....that would be crazy.

If your in my neighborhood at a respectable place and I can get at least a 4 star meal (which I would pay for of course) I may check out your speaking abilities! But if all else fails you can always start on the streets, Crazy or not! You have to start somewhere to create an audience!

 

[Testosterone boy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

If your in my neighborhood at a respectable place and I can get at least a 4 star meal (which I would pay for of course) I may check out your speaking abilities! But if all else fails you can always start on the streets, Crazy or not! You have to start somewhere to create an audience!

Getting the audience will be hard at first! Especially when so many are pumped about crushing Iraq.

Maybe I should recognize the odds and just find a big titted beauty who loves to fuck.

 

[atlantabiolab]

I am thinking of becoming an expert on this administration and hitting the speaking tour. It would be hard to find groups to listen to me at first but my public speaking skills can be very good. I think I could wind up speaking to large college groups and have some influence.

Why? I don't want to see the world Americanized through military operations. Why spread a culture that leads in:
Obesity

This is an aspect of being a wealthy nation. Obesity is a by-product of access to food. We lead because of the cheap, efficient manufacture of food. Most of the world does not have this problem, because they have the problem of GETTING food.

Litigation

A by-product of a "free" society. Other countries cap amounts that can be awarded, so the incentive to sue is reduced. This is by no means a benefit in all aspects, and I believe this is a problem perpetuated by the mindset of the public and the legal system, but with freedom comes responsibility.

Depression

Another aspect of a wealthy nation. We have lost the idea of trials and tribulations that occur everyday in poorer countries and consider the cancellation of "Seinfeld" as the end of the world. This too is related to the mindset of the public.

Divorce

It was my understanding that Russia had a higher divorce rate, but I may be wrong. No matter, again a problem of the value system of the American public. European countries have less problems with this partly because many have opted out of marriage and simply live together.

Incarceration

War on Drugs.

Hypertension

Another effect of affluence and obesity.

Lay offs
White collar crime

Lay offs and white collar crimes are simply facts with no relation to reality. Both can be looked at as functions of an industrialized nation. Jobs are not forever. Companies come and go. The real aspect that must be considered is if there are other jobs to take up the newly unemployed and there are in the US.

White collar crime is a function of having white collar jobs. Some men have no qualms about immoral activities, this is inherent in humanity, not the US.

We really ought to work on our own problems instead of plundering the world so that the super rich become super richer.

I agree with isolationist (military) practices, but the issues you posted are not problems that are correctable by government, but corrected individually.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

OBESITY This is an aspect of being a wealthy nation. Obesity is a by-product of access to food. We lead because of the cheap, efficient manufacture of food. Most of the world does not have this problem, because they have the problem of GETTING food.

Many European countries have equal access to food. They are not equally obese. Moreover, the poorest people in the US are the fattest; it's not like in ancient Rome where the people starve as the rich pig out.

LITIGATION A by-product of a "free" society. Other countries cap amounts that can be awarded, so the incentive to sue is reduced. This is by no means a benefit in all aspects, and I believe this is a problem perpetuated by the mindset of the public and the legal system, but with freedom comes responsibility.

LOL!
The prevalence of litigation is such a drain on our economy that if you stopped admitting lawyers to the bar for 10 years, things would get better. Our litigious society has added costs to every business transaction and insurance premium.

INCARCERATION War on Drugs.

I agree but you know that the war on Drugs is window dressing for a bigger problem between the citizenry and government.

I agree with isolationist (military) practices, but the issues you posted are not problems that are correctable by government, but corrected individually.

The litigation and incarceration problems can be fixed TODAY by government action.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

This is an aspect of being a wealthy nation. Obesity is a by-product of access to food. We lead because of the cheap, efficient manufacture of food. Most of the world does not have this problem, because they have the problem of GETTING food.



A by-product of a "free" society. Other countries cap amounts that can be awarded, so the incentive to sue is reduced. This is by no means a benefit in all aspects, and I believe this is a problem perpetuated by the mindset of the public and the legal system, but with freedom comes responsibility.



Another aspect of a wealthy nation. We have lost the idea of trials and tribulations that occur everyday in poorer countries and consider the cancellation of "Seinfeld" as the end of the world. This too is related to the mindset of the public.



It was my understanding that Russia had a higher divorce rate, but I may be wrong. No matter, again a problem of the value system of the American public. European countries have less problems with this partly because many have opted out of marriage and simply live together.



War on Drugs.



Another effect of affluence and obesity.



Lay offs and white collar crimes are simply facts with no relation to reality. Both can be looked at as functions of an industrialized nation. Jobs are not forever. Companies come and go. The real aspect that must be considered is if there are other jobs to take up the newly unemployed and there are in the US.

White collar crime is a function of having white collar jobs. Some men have no qualms about immoral activities, this is inherent in humanity, not the US.



I agree with isolationist (military) practices, but the issues you posted are not problems that are correctable by government, but corrected individually.

If the government cannot correct problems they should put themselves out of business because they sure as hell create a lot of problems.

Besides, several of those problems could be reduced with some common sense. But you know that our legislative process is almost totally devoid of that.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

Many European countries have equal access to food. They are not equally obese. Moreover, the poorest people in the US are the fattest; it's not like in ancient Rome where the people starve as the rich pig out.

If you noticed in my post I mentioned the WORLD when I spoke of the problem of obesity, not European nations, which comprise a smaller portion of the total populace. In the majority of the world access to food is the limiting variable for obesity. Also, access to variety of food is a major contributor for food related diseases. Japanese women who immigrate to the US raise their level of breast cancer to that of US women, due mainly to eating the American diet. They have every right to eat their native foods, but choose to eat an American diet.

Diet is personal and cultural and the major principle I was aiming at was that the "epidemic" of obesity is only a problem in a socialized medical setting. If you eat yourself to death, you are not a problem to anyone save yourself, but in a public health care setting you then become the problem of the society. This is the logic government has used to force itself further into the lives of the citizens, with smoking, guns, diet, and drugs. If others pay for something that you use, then we can restrict your actions. This is why the socialized medical system perpetuates government growth and power. Soon we will have government intrusion into our food choices, as T-Boy was alluding to, to prevent this "epidemic" of obesity, then heart disease, then diabetes, ad nauseum. Since the group pays for your care, we must control the group's actions to lower costs.

LOL!
The prevalence of litigation is such a drain on our economy that if you stopped admitting lawyers to the bar for 10 years, things would get better. Our litigious society has added costs to every business transaction and insurance premium.

Agreed, but a large portion of this is from frivilous lawsuits which could be thrown out by judges, but they almost never throw out cases anymore.

I agree but you know that the war on Drugs is window dressing for a bigger problem between the citizenry and government.

The litigation and incarceration problems can be fixed TODAY by government action.

Agreed. I have no problem with considering litigation and incarceration as real problems of government, my dissent was of the idea that personal health is the responsibility of government.

 

[Norman Bates]

Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

Agreed. I have no problem with considering litigation and incarceration as real problems of government, my dissent was of the idea that personal health is the responsibility of government.

Personal health should be personal responsibility, but one could argue that the government should do some courses about proper nutrition and the side effects of obesity in high school.
It is true that the government should not have the right to force you to diet, but they have the right to teach it in school to those that need that knowledge.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

Personal health should be personal responsibility, but one could argue that the government should do some courses about proper nutrition and the side effects of obesity in high school.
It is true that the government should not have the right to force you to diet, but they have the right to teach it in school to those that need that knowledge.

Healthy diet is a controversial subject, not to mention barely understood. Take a look at the USDA Food Pyramid, which is ridiculous by scientific standards, but accepted and promulgated by high school and college textbooks alike. Would we have veganism promoted, since there are studies that show benefits of this diet style, or omnivorous ultra-low fat diets as many adhere too, or omnivorous medium fat diet, such as the Zone style diet, or low carb high protein diets, etc.

I can show you tons of studies on the health benefits of thousands of foods, but you would never think of eating them. By American standards they taste like shit, which will always be the limiting factor in diet, taste.

In college I had 2 nutrition professors, the more educated of the 2, who dealt with nutritional biochemistry was obese, while the less educated, and looking back at it, very uneducated, was lean and fit.

It is not government's role to promote the personal health of the populace.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Re: Re: Re: Re: A challenging chore to start?.................

If you noticed in my post I mentioned the WORLD when I spoke of the problem of obesity, not European nations, which comprise a smaller portion of the total populace. In the majority of the world access to food is the limiting variable for obesity. Also, access to variety of food is a major contributor for food related diseases. Japanese women who immigrate to the US raise their level of breast cancer to that of US women, due mainly to eating the American diet. They have every right to eat their native foods, but choose to eat an American diet.

Diet is personal and cultural and the major principle I was aiming at was that the "epidemic" of obesity is only a problem in a socialized medical setting. If you eat yourself to death, you are not a problem to anyone save yourself, but in a public health care setting you then become the problem of the society. This is the logic government has used to force itself further into the lives of the citizens, with smoking, guns, diet, and drugs. If others pay for something that you use, then we can restrict your actions. This is why the socialized medical system perpetuates government growth and power. Soon we will have government intrusion into our food choices, as T-Boy was alluding to, to prevent this "epidemic" of obesity, then heart disease, then diabetes, ad nauseum. Since the group pays for your care, we must control the group's actions to lower costs.

The tenor of your initial post was such that it sounded as though you were saying our unmatched obesity is due to our unmatched wealth.

You're absolutely right on this

If you eat yourself to death, you are not a problem to anyone save yourself, but in a public health care setting you then become the problem of the society. This is the logic government has used to force itself further into the lives of the citizens, with smoking, guns, diet, and drugs. If others pay for something that you use, then we can restrict your actions. This is why the socialized medical system perpetuates government growth and power.

 

[rsnoble]

Actually I was thinking of running for president. I would be the "average american" and could use that premise to basically sidestep every question I didnt have an answer for. I could just say, sorry but im just your average joe I will have to find out about that. And then go onto say that im being honest about it instead of rambling on about a bunch of bullshit and having a speech writer jam notes up my ass all day long. I think a lot of people would find it refreshing. Of course id probably get killed off because I would be the biggest enemy of corporate america ever. I'd be like heh, you fuck ass bitches hiding out in Bermuda get your bitch asses back over here and pay your taxes or instead of bombing Iran im going to bomb your fucking headquarters!

 

[muscle_geek]

Actually I was thinking of running for president. I would be the "average american" and could use that premise to basically sidestep every question I didnt have an answer for. I could just say, sorry but im just your average joe I will have to find out about that. And then go onto say that im being honest about it instead of rambling on about a bunch of bullshit and having a speech writer jam notes up my ass all day long. I think a lot of people would find it refreshing. Of course id probably get killed off because I would be the biggest enemy of corporate america ever. I'd be like heh, you fuck ass bitches hiding out in Bermuda get your bitch asses back over here and pay your taxes or instead of bombing Iran im going to bomb your fucking headquarters!

I'm with you RS. Corky for President!

 

[Testosterone boy]

I'm sure there are small steps to be taken to encourage a leaner, healthier lifestyle.

How healthy is school cafeteria food these days? I have no idea.

Do they encourage or even offer courses in nutrition in high school? They could use PE courses to encourage an interest in nutritution, otherwise most kids would never have an interest in nutrition. Why are PE courses an elective while history is not?

Good bike and running paths would be a nice start.

I know that our problems can not be solved through legislation but small steps can be taken for maintenance. Without maintenance, everything falls apart.

 

[atlantabiolab]

I'm sure there are small steps to be taken to encourage a leaner, healthier lifestyle.

How healthy is school cafeteria food these days? I have no idea.

Do they encourage or even offer courses in nutrition in high school? They could use PE courses to encourage an interest in nutritution, otherwise most kids would never have an interest in nutrition. Why are PE courses an elective while history is not?

Good bike and running paths would be a nice start.

I know that our problems can not be solved through legislation but small steps can be taken for maintenance. Without maintenance, everything falls apart.

This is personal responsibility that you are trying to legislate. Why is it my responsibility to pay for bike and running paths? In no time flat, one neighborhood will be complaining that their bike and running paths are not as good as another's, and then government will step in to fix another dreamt-up problem.

How healthy is the average home-cooked meal? Who gives a shit? This is not the responsibility of government to monitor every little iota of human action. We argue that government should not enter into the home to monitor sexual activity, yet it is OK to have them monitor our food intake?!?!?! Both can have ramifications on health, why the hypocrisy?

 

[Testosterone boy]

This is personal responsibility that you are trying to legislate. Why is it my responsibility to pay for bike and running paths? In no time flat, one neighborhood will be complaining that their bike and running paths are not as good as another's, and then government will step in to fix another dreamt-up problem.

How healthy is the average home-cooked meal? Who gives a shit? This is not the responsibility of government to monitor every little iota of human action. We argue that government should not enter into the home to monitor sexual activity, yet it is OK to have them monitor our food intake?!?!?! Both can have ramifications on health, why the hypocrisy?

You seem to advocate a very streamlined government. What I was saying is that we have internal problems that are more pressing than those in the Middle East.

You are changing the subject to insinuate that I advocate government interdiction into home cooked meals while I was not. I'm simply searching for small, meaningful ways to bring up public health.

We pay for the damned food in the school cafeteria, we have every right to wonder what is in it. We also have a responsibility to care about the health of our children.

If we can force the public to buy new stadiums for pro team owners through advocating economic stimulus......then it would seem that more outdoor exercise paths would be appropriate. All it takes is a gravel path.

Taking PE courses, encouraging an understanding of nutrition, serving healthier cafeteria food, and providing gravel paths is hardly legislating personal responsibility.

What is of more relevance? Iraq living under a dictator or the health of our own citizenry?


We are militarily Americanizing the rest of the world from what I can see. We justify it by saying that we employ a superior economic model and enjoy a better way of life.

You know, I have superior technology and strenght to several of our board members. Perhaps I should route them out of their domocile and have my way with their possessions? Yes....I should liberate their dependants. Ok....I'm wandering here.

 

[staw]

Though I am uncertain of the food served in elementary schools and have no knowledge of cafeteria food outside my own state, I do know that MacDonald's is served in the majority of the high schools here. The entire menu is not available, just the basic cheeseburgers and hamburgers. That service began approximately 3-4 years ago. I also believe MacDonald's was not the only fast food chain to make that move.

Are Alaskan teenagers fluffier now than say 10 years ago? Yes. The number of girls wandering around the gym displaying their pouch is, for lack of a better way to put it, amazing. Since our winters are relatively long, I suppose most feel no need to ever be in bikini shape. Sphere is a shape!


I thought I was living in a state for outdoor enthusiasts.

 

[atlantabiolab]

You seem to advocate a very streamlined government. What I was saying is that we have internal problems that are more pressing than those in the Middle East.

I am not an advocate of the interventionism that the US upholds, so this argument is not valid. Simply because the US is doing something wrong in one area, does not mean that we should offset it by doing something wrong in another area.

You are changing the subject to insinuate that I advocate government interdiction into home cooked meals while I was not. I'm simply searching for small, meaningful ways to bring up public health.

It is not "public" health, it is personal health, it is the sole responsibility of the individual. Adding the word "public" only grants government the idea that it can intervene.

We pay for the damned food in the school cafeteria, we have every right to wonder what is in it. We also have a responsibility to care about the health of our children.

Tax funded schools are subject to scrutiny by the populace and the majority can vote or pressure for certain food choices, but it is already evident that this idea is going to the extreme. California has banned soft drinks from school vending machines. We tell people that if they don't want to see the shitty programming on TV to switch the channel, but for drink choices in school you can't have a choice?!?!

If we can force the public to buy new stadiums for pro team owners through advocating economic stimulus......then it would seem that more outdoor exercise paths would be appropriate. All it takes is a gravel path.

Taking PE courses, encouraging an understanding of nutrition, serving healthier cafeteria food, and providing gravel paths is hardly legislating personal responsibility.

Your advocating the creation of a waste of money as an alternative to an existing waste of money. I am against the grant of tax money for something that is the business' responsibilty, just as much as I am against the spending of public monies on special projects. These little projects of grand benevolence add up to the staggering waste of money that we currently endure.

What is of more relevance? Iraq living under a dictator or the health of our own citizenry?

Why do you pose an "either or" scenario? I am against the waste of resources on both special interest projects.

"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but
an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions." - James Madison, 1792

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison criticizing an attempt to grant public monies for charitable means, 1794

 

[Testosterone boy]

OK....so you advocate a hands off approach to almost everything. I was saying that we have domestic problems that are greater than our need to conquer nations.

I am for a common sense approach to government since I doubt that it will vote to shrink itself.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Though I am uncertain of the food served in elementary schools and have no knowledge of cafeteria food outside my own state, I do know that MacDonald's is served in the majority of the high schools here. The entire menu is not available, just the basic cheeseburgers and hamburgers. That service began approximately 3-4 years ago. I also believe MacDonald's was not the only fast food chain to make that move.

Are Alaskan teenagers fluffier now than say 10 years ago? Yes. The number of girls wandering around the gym displaying their pouch is, for lack of a better way to put it, amazing. Since our winters are relatively long, I suppose most feel no need to ever be in bikini shape. Sphere is a shape!


I thought I was living in a state for outdoor enthusiasts.

McDonalds being served in the school cafeteria. We will need to coin a new phrase for when corporate interests enjoy absoute power as well as total control. I say that it henceforth be called......America.

McDonald cheesburgers............woohoo. Ceritfiably among the worlds worst fast foods, akin to being the King junk among junks.

 

[atlantabiolab]

McDonalds being served in the school cafeteria. We will need to coin a new phrase for when corporate interests enjoy absoute power as well as total control. I say that it henceforth be called......America.

It is obvious that you have a hatred for corporations, what then do you propose the government do to stave off the corporate totalitarianism that you predict?

McDonald cheesburgers............woohoo. Ceritfiably among the worlds worst fast foods, akin to being the King junk among junks.

Last time I checked many high schools offer hamburgers, hot dogs, nachos and cheeze, pizza, etc. as a part of the school menu. How are they any different than having McDonald's open a small branch in a school? I am sure it reduces the cost of running a school, since public education wastes tons of money every year, and this company can perform the task more efficiently.

 

[Testosterone boy]

It is obvious that you have a hatred for corporations, what then do you propose the government do to stave off the corporate totalitarianism that you predict?



Last time I checked many high schools offer hamburgers, hot dogs, nachos and cheeze, pizza, etc. as a part of the school menu. How are they any different than having McDonald's open a small branch in a school? I am sure it reduces the cost of running a school, since public education wastes tons of money every year, and this company can perform the task more efficiently.

What I hate is the rampant and oh so popular mentality that only money matters. Some would sell rat poison in the Corn Flakes if they could make an extra 15% in profits.

I have two businesses and do a fair amount of buying and selling. The changes I have seen over the past 10 years is absolutely alarming. Trust is gone because people have grown so accustomed to being screwed. That would include me, I generally will not be sold unless there is a paper trail documenting everything. Almost 1/2 of my bills have been padded by the service company who decided that I authorized additional services without me knowing anything about it.

I think you would be hard put to manufacture a cheeseburger that beat McDonalds in unhealthy attributes. Artificial flavoring, artificial coloring, preservatives, calories.....you name it. McDonalds does not care.


What do I propose? We should all bend over and kiss our collective asses goodbye. The transformation to corporate totalitarianism is complete until campaign finance reform is done. The dems and reps will not bite off the hand that feeds them so I expect that things will get very bad. We might elect some people that are not coerced in bedding down with the corporate elite but the odds are long since the media has become a corporate mouthpiece as well and the public is......well......never mind.

 

[staw]

I have no idea if McD's is a vendor. True, if they rent space from the school district, the district may be saving money in the food service department. However, was this a major area of financial concern before the introduction of McD's? I doubt it.

The majority of high school juniors and seniors leave during the lunch hour (I believe they are still allowed this freedom). In fact, the school only needs to offer food to approx. 60% of its student body. Naturally, a portion of that 60% would not purchase food in the cafeteria as they have brought food from home. Or more likely, don't have any money.

Offering McD's keeps more students in school during the lunch hour, pads the pockets of the high school administrators, and makes kids fatter.

I would like to know how serving McD's (or other flubber making food) in high schools will impact the health care system 10-20 years from now. How much will type 2 diabetes and obseity related illnesses financially burden society? How much will health insurance cost state governments, individuals, families in the next 10 years? At present, Alaska spends $800 per state employee on health insurance. $200 of which, I have to pay myself. I paid less for the same coverage when I was not a state employee. Go figure. And the cost is only increasing.

Excuse the diatribe.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I doubt there will be a United States in 10-20 years so I would not worry about it. We are spending billions that we do not have to seize property that we have no right to from dictators that we helped to install and that is only the tip of the iceberg.

America sold its soul to the money god. It'll last 5-10 more years in my estimation.

We lost our minds. We are cutting taxes for the super rich while the deficit breaks all records and we spend billions crushing scapegoats 1/2 a world away. We have succeeded in alienating the entire planet in two short years and have demonstarted that nuclear brinksmanship is a fun sport for the administration. The economy continues to crumble while the administration pads their defence based pocket books by scaring the shit out of the public with code reds, code orange etc.

Oh hell....I could go on all night. Think I'll drag up a certain resume...

 

[atlantabiolab]

I have no idea if McD's is a vendor. True, if they rent space from the school district, the district may be saving money in the food service department. However, was this a major area of financial concern before the introduction of McD's? I doubt it.

Why do you not worry about the financial cost of public education yet you worry about the cost of insurance rates? The first is paid for by the nation, without their consent, while the latter is paid privately.

The majority of high school juniors and seniors leave during the lunch hour (I believe they are still allowed this freedom). In fact, the school only needs to offer food to approx. 60% of its student body. Naturally, a portion of that 60% would not purchase food in the cafeteria as they have brought food from home. Or more likely, don't have any money.

Offering McD's keeps more students in school during the lunch hour, pads the pockets of the high school administrators, and makes kids fatter.

Where do you think the kids are going off campus to buy lunch? A vegetarian cafe? They are going to McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell, etc. The access of McDonald's on campus helps keep kids on campus, which helps prevent idiot kids from getting killed on the streets from maniacal driving.

I would like to know how serving McD's (or other flubber making food) in high schools will impact the health care system 10-20 years from now. How much will type 2 diabetes and obseity related illnesses financially burden society? How much will health insurance cost state governments, individuals, families in the next 10 years? At present, Alaska spends $800 per state employee on health insurance. $200 of which, I have to pay myself. I paid less for the same coverage when I was not a state employee. Go figure. And the cost is only increasing.

This would not be a concern if it were not for the public enslavement to socialized medicine. There would be no financial bonds that entrap the healthy to pay for the poor choices of others.

Stop attacking the private industry which drives the economy and start attacking the government that forces you to pay for the problems that others create for themselves.

 

[Testosterone boy]

We must stop Bush et al from completing his destruction of most everything except the pocketbooks of his friends.

 

[atlantabiolab]

America sold its soul to the money god.

America sold it's mind to the irrational.

We are cutting taxes for the super rich...

This statement is a receipt of our sale.

 

[Testosterone boy]

America sold it's mind to the irrational.



This statement is a receipt of our sale.

You had me thinking you were an antagonist then you go and make me all dizzy again. J/K

Could not agree more...........I'm so mad that it is hard to think about making money.

 

[atlantabiolab]

You had me thinking you were an antagonist then you go and make me all dizzy again. J/K

Could not agree more...........I'm so mad that it is hard to think about making money.

I think you misconstrued my post. The idea that is being thrown around that a tax cut is really a tax cut for the wealthy is irrational. The left seems to think that tax cuts should go disproportionately to those who pay none or little of the tax burden of society, for as they claim the rich really don't "need" their money.

What is irrational about this administration is it's unbrideled waste of tax revenues and national credit, not the idea of relieving the public of its tax burden.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I think you misconstrued my post. The idea that is being thrown around that a tax cut is really a tax cut for the wealthy is irrational. The left seems to think that tax cuts should go disproportionately to those who pay none or little of the tax burden of society, for as they claim the rich really don't "need" their money.

What is irrational about this administration is it's unbrideled waste of tax revenues and national credit, not the idea of relieving the public of its tax burden.

You are complicating the fact that this "tax cut" really only affects the wealthy.....much like getting rid of a sales tax on yachts.

"Relieving the public of its tax burden" LOL...........they are simply passing a massive deficit to the next administration while padding their enormous pockets.

 

[staw]

"Why do you not worry about the financial cost of public education yet you worry about the cost of insurance rates? The first is paid for by the nation, without their consent, while the latter is paid privately."

Atlanta: Perhaps I was not entirely clear. I'm a woman and that has a tendency to happen. I worry a great deal about education costs. After all, I am a tax payer. Getting the most bang for the buck does not include putting McD's or any other fast food chain in schools.

With all due respect, I disagree with you regarding health care costs being private. In order to sell insurance to state government, insurance companies are told by the legislature what procedures will and will not be covered. Specific to Alaska, the legislature wants chemical dependency, obesity related illnesses, mental health issues covered. Naturally, this leads to increased premiums.

As stated earlier, state gov. pays $600 per month for my coverage alone. I am not sure how many state employees Alaska currently has. Say we only have 2,000 (very low ball figure). 2,000 employees x 600/month = 1.2 million per month in insurance. Then look at the yearly cost for our small state. Cannot even fathom how much a state like California pays in insurance coverage for government employees per year.

If government employees were healthier (fewer smokers, chemically dependent persons, obese individuals, mentally stable folks) the average rate would be significantly lower. This would, at least in theory, translate to more available money for public projects/programs or to reduce state deficit. If the health of our nation continues to decline, insurance rates will undoubtedly increase as a result. More government money will be allocated to pay for the health of its employees at the expense of the public.

And finally... attacking private industry. I don't have any qualms about that. When the lines between private companies and government become so blurred you cannot distinguish one from the other, its time for change.

Testboy: You think we will wind up like Rome? Our cities fill with greed and laziness while the barbarians wait at the gates?

 

[Testosterone boy]

"Why do you not worry about the financial cost of public education yet you worry about the cost of insurance rates? The first is paid for by the nation, without their consent, while the latter is paid privately."

Atlanta: Perhaps I was not entirely clear. I'm a woman and that has a tendency to happen. I worry a great deal about education costs. After all, I am a tax payer. Getting the most bang for the buck does not include putting McD's or any other fast food chain in schools.

With all due respect, I disagree with you regarding health care costs being private. In order to sell insurance to state government, insurance companies are told by the legislature what procedures will and will not be covered. Specific to Alaska, the legislature wants chemical dependency, obesity related illnesses, mental health issues covered. Naturally, this leads to increased premiums.

As stated earlier, state gov. pays $600 per month for my coverage alone. I am not sure how many state employees Alaska currently has. Say we only have 2,000 (very low ball figure). 2,000 employees x 600/month = 1.2 million per month in insurance. Then look at the yearly cost for our small state. Cannot even fathom how much a state like California pays in insurance coverage for government employees per year.

If government employees were healthier (fewer smokers, chemically dependent persons, obese individuals, mentally stable folks) the average rate would be significantly lower. This would, at least in theory, translate to more available money for public projects/programs or to reduce state deficit. If the health of our nation continues to decline, insurance rates will undoubtedly increase as a result. More government money will be allocated to pay for the health of its employees at the expense of the public.

And finally... attacking private industry. I don't have any qualms about that. When the lines between private companies and government become so blurred you cannot distinguish one from the other, its time for change.

Testboy: You think we will wind up like Rome? Our cities fill with greed and laziness while the barbarians wait at the gates?

The differece between Rome and US is that we are filled with greed and laziness while Bushbarians run the show.


I alternate between being furious , disgusted, fed up, and gave up.

These people just don't get what is as obvious as a 12 foot grizzly rearing up, bearing its fangs and growling from 2 yards away.

We don't have a chance if most of the people just tow the official line. Mental laziness!!!

 

[atlantabiolab]

Atlanta: Perhaps I was not entirely clear. I'm a woman and that has a tendency to happen. I worry a great deal about education costs. After all, I am a tax payer. Getting the most bang for the buck does not include putting McD's or any other fast food chain in schools.

And what precisely does putting a McDonald's in the school do that is different than them, or another fast food chain, being a mile down the road. I hope you realize that the kids who leave are not going to find tofu burgers or bean curd.

The McDonald's is not the problem with public education, the public education is the problem. This is an institution which prides itself with promoting illiterates to graduation. That teaches multi-culturalism and sensitivity classes to kids who can't do basic math.

With all due respect, I disagree with you regarding health care costs being private. In order to sell insurance to state government, insurance companies are told by the legislature what procedures will and will not be covered. Specific to Alaska, the legislature wants chemical dependency, obesity related illnesses, mental health issues covered. Naturally, this leads to increased premiums.

As stated earlier, state gov. pays $600 per month for my coverage alone. I am not sure how many state employees Alaska currently has. Say we only have 2,000 (very low ball figure). 2,000 employees x 600/month = 1.2 million per month in insurance. Then look at the yearly cost for our small state. Cannot even fathom how much a state like California pays in insurance coverage for government employees per year.

These are all functions of government growth. The number of government employees is beyond necessity, since a large portion of these programs, which employ them, are wastes of tax money

If government employees were healthier (fewer smokers, chemically dependent persons, obese individuals, mentally stable folks) the average rate would be significantly lower. This would, at least in theory, translate to more available money for public projects/programs or to reduce state deficit. If the health of our nation continues to decline, insurance rates will undoubtedly increase as a result. More government money will be allocated to pay for the health of its employees at the expense of the public.

But you still have not understood my post. The health of others is only a concern when you are forced to pay for the health of others. In a capitalist society, which we are not, one pays for HIS/HER services, not those of the millions of citizens in his country. In a socialized system, which we are mutating to, we all pay for the services of each other. So which system is better? The one where I pay for myself and you pay for yourself or the system where I pay for the bad habits of Joe Six Pack? The first one allows for personal freedom: if I wanna eat like shit and drink Jack Daniels for breakfast, lunch and dinner, then I suffer the consequences and have to pay for them. In the latter, I live without a care and everyone else picks up the tab. In this scenario the consequences are clear: choices become legislated, because you are a burden to the system.

And finally... attacking private industry. I don't have any qualms about that. When the lines between private companies and government become so blurred you cannot distinguish one from the other, its time for change.

It is time for a change, but you request a band-aid, instead of a cure. The private industry is not the problem, the governmental system is. Government legislates what people and businesses can do, not the businesses.

Testboy: You think we will wind up like Rome? Our cities fill with greed and laziness while the barbarians wait at the gates?

It is happening. They are called Mexicans.

 

[atlantabiolab]

You are complicating the fact that this "tax cut" really only affects the wealthy.....much like getting rid of a sales tax on yachts.

Ridiculous. While I feel that this tax cut is not going to make much difference, since the root of the problem is income taxation, what would you propose, as a more reasonable measure?

"Relieving the public of its tax burden" LOL...........they are simply passing a massive deficit to the next administration while padding their enormous pockets.

I explained that I see the unrestrained spending of money as the real problem, but I am not going to sacrifice my personal interests to hope that they see the errors of their ways and do everything right.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Ridiculous. While I feel that this tax cut is not going to make much difference, since the root of the problem is income taxation, what would you propose, as a more reasonable measure?



I explained that I see the unrestrained spending of money as the real problem, but I am not going to sacrifice my personal interests to hope that they see the errors of their ways and do everything right.

Obvious.....you have to spend less money when you are making less. They are spending MORE, much more while making less, much less I would bet though the numbers will be massaged. This is a disaster being created.

I outlined some of my pet ideas when I made the thread about T boy running for King/ puppet/pres in 2004. I like a flat tax with an increase in the minimum wage.

A large percentage of rich people work harder and smarter, I have no problem with that but we should not help them while basically ignoring the rest. I'm also believe that if the government unfairly steals from them, they are more likely to be unscrupulous with money making schemes.

Bush is wasting record amounts of money with absolutely crappy ideas while promoting tax cuts for the rich? I see a train heading this way....it says National Bancruptcy R&R.

 

[staw]

Atlanta: Kids who drive during the lunch hour have a choice. And while it is true that many will choose McD's, Taco Bell, etc., some will not. There have actually been a number of healthy joints popping up near high schools that get high traffic from students during the lunch hour. I know because I have had the misfortune of trying to eat at those places during lunch.

For the kids who stay in for lunch... the school should provide healthy alternatives. To not do so is to the detriment of the student population. And perhaps eventually to society, if we all someday have to pick up the tab.

Is McD's the problem w/ public education? No of course not. We completely agree. Several years ago, I attended a well regarded college. I had to take a few years off. When I returned, the student body had completely changed. Many did not know how to speak in complete sentences. They wrote poorly constructed papers. Mortifying that any high school would graduate these kids.

Morevover, there was actually a petition started by parents to discontinue all honors courses in high schools because it made the average student feel "bad." Solution: dumb down the school. Brilliant.

My position on health care (short version). You wanna be a government employee and eat McD's, krispy cremes, smoke, drink like a fish and get obese, go ahead. Just don't ask the legislature to raise insurance premiums to cover the cost of your bad habits. It raises the cost not only for government employees, but the overall cost of government. Being a state employee, I have the pleasure of seeing money wasted on a daily basis.

Private companies, large corporations in particular, have dictated what government does. Ultimately, its the government that pass the laws and the legislature that pass the bills. But that is not without input from private companies. Or even private groups, such as doctors, attorneys, dentists, real estate agents and the like.

The cure? I have no idea. But so long as private corporations and government share the same bed, there can be no solution.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Were you grading papers at the university?

 

[staw]

No, I was not grading the papers. I worked in the writing center as well as assisting other history majors on term papers. My writing skills are above average but still leave much to be desired.

 

[Testosterone boy]

No, I was not grading the papers. I worked in the writing center as well as assisting other history majors on term papers. My writing skills are above average but still leave much to be desired.

Writing my skils uperb....yes?


Quality writing is a lot of mental work, I don't worry about it here. Had a college english professor who encouraged me to be a writer though. As you can plainly see, a lot has changed.

What part of Alaska are you in? I thought the AK meant Arkansas for awhile.

 

[biteme]

McDonald's puts powdered worms in their hamburgers and chicken nuggets.

 

[staw]

So if you eat the chicken you are safe, eh?

It's a forum, so I tend to be pretty casual. If you were so inclined, I bet you could write very well. By no means, do you write poorly here. Just to clarify.

I'm from the "big city" in Alaska. Anchorage.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I think the Chicken McNuggets have "parts" and "stuff" in them. I dunno about Atlanta, sometimes he seems to be linked to the admin.

I heard there are 10 men for every woman in Alaska and most prefer their snowmobile. Dat true?

 

[staw]

LOL! Haven't heard that one. But yes, there are more men here than women. Many prefer snowmachines, guns and beer to the women here (everywhere). Cannot say I blame them. Most women are perfectly awful. And up here, many don't shave, shower or even look remotely feminine.

Don't worry, I'm not in that category. So you can still take me to the Matrix 2 this weekend.

 

[Testosterone boy]

LOL! Haven't heard that one. But yes, there are more men here than women. Many prefer snowmachines, guns and beer to the women here (everywhere). Cannot say I blame them. Most women are perfectly awful. And up here, many don't shave, shower or even look remotely feminine.

Don't worry, I'm not in that category. So you can still take me to the Matrix 2 this weekend.

Huh.....you might be OK!

Matrix 2 is disappointing some of the chaps, how about I bring my snowmobile, gun, and beer and we will hunt some vittles Alaskan style!

I'm at [email protected] waiting for a bikini shot. Oh wait, this is Alaska. How about a nice salmon fishing shot?

 

[staw]

Okay, this weekend its the Matrix. Next weekend, I will take you hunting for whatever is your flavor. Admitidly, I am more of a fisherman. But have been known to hunt.

Actually do have some pics around here somewhere of me fishing. But I am afraid they will disappoint you, since I am neither in a bikini nor am I naked. But it was a good coho, so that should suffice.

As for the bikini shot... can we wait until I am done with the cutting cycle?

 

[Testosterone boy]

Okay, this weekend its the Matrix. Next weekend, I will take you hunting for whatever is your flavor. Admitidly, I am more of a fisherman. But have been known to hunt.

Actually do have some pics around here somewhere of me fishing. But I am afraid they will disappoint you, since I am neither in a bikini nor am I naked. But it was a good coho, so that should suffice.

As for the bikini shot... can we wait until I am done with the cutting cycle?

Consider it done! I'll get the tickets and pick you up at 7.

I also fish and look forward to the coho shot. Lets see, I think a caribou and a brown bear would make for good stories....and eating.

 

[staw]

Had bear sausage the other day. Not bad actually, though a bit chewy. Could very well have been the way it was prepared. Have some friends who prefer bear meat in their tacos. Cannot give a report as to the taste, never tried it.

What I would like to hunt: Brown Bear, Caribou, Moose. Would someday like to go halibut fishing. Feel almost un-Alaskan not having gone.

Great stories and Alaska just seem to go together. Hunting trips are often full of adventure. All those unexpected variables, weather mostly. So long as you are prepared, you should be alright. And you know your limits. Gotta love those climbers who are inexperienced, but attempt Mt. McKinley anyway.

And now for the most important question... what kind of beer do you drink? Nothing rides on this, except the future of this "relationship." No pressure.

Apologies for hijacking your thread.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Had bear sausage the other day. Not bad actually, though a bit chewy. Could very well have been the way it was prepared. Have some friends who prefer bear meat in their tacos. Cannot give a report as to the taste, never tried it.

What I would like to hunt: Brown Bear, Caribou, Moose. Would someday like to go halibut fishing. Feel almost un-Alaskan not having gone.

Great stories and Alaska just seem to go together. Hunting trips are often full of adventure. All those unexpected variables, weather mostly. So long as you are prepared, you should be alright. And you know your limits. Gotta love those climbers who are inexperienced, but attempt Mt. McKinley anyway.

And now for the most important question... what kind of beer do you drink? Nothing rides on this, except the future of this "relationship." No pressure.

Apologies for hijacking your thread.

Thanks for hijacking the thread. Atlanta is smart enough but lacking in congeniality at times.

Beer? I drink Budweiser, Coors, Sam Adams, Corona, Dos Equis...when I drink which is somewhat seldom really.

Got loads and loads of survival gear.

In the middle of a massive email problem while trying to get a logo and web page done.

 

[staw]

Yes Atlanta is smart, he's just wrong.

Don't drink much myself. We have some local beers that are quality. Alaskan Pale, Oatmeal Stout and Alaskan Amber. All same brewing company.

Have a fair amount of survival gear myself. Don't own as many knives as I would like. Come to think of it, I hardly own any. Something I shall have to remedy.

Doesn't surprise me you possess loads. Fits with your posts.

Wish you luck on the email problem.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Yes Atlanta is smart, he's just wrong.

Don't drink much myself. We have some local beers that are quality. Alaskan Pale, Oatmeal Stout and Alaskan Amber. All same brewing company.

Have a fair amount of survival gear myself. Don't own as many knives as I would like. Come to think of it, I hardly own any. Something I shall have to remedy.

Doesn't surprise me you possess loads. Fits with your posts.

Wish you luck on the email problem.

My favorite beer is called Sunshine and made by a local brewery. You never heard of it and it is not available in Alaska I'm sure.

Why do my posts fit with loads of survival gear?

I can still receive your fishing shot...just have to end my emails via another carrier. Don't have any nudes myself...never took one either. Just like to joke about it. Got one? J/K!

 

[Testosterone boy]

OK....I took a couple nudes once but never circulated them. Too valuable!

 

[Testosterone boy]

Yes Atlanta is smart, he's just wrong.

Don't drink much myself. We have some local beers that are quality. Alaskan Pale, Oatmeal Stout and Alaskan Amber. All same brewing company.

Have a fair amount of survival gear myself. Don't own as many knives as I would like. Come to think of it, I hardly own any. Something I shall have to remedy.

Doesn't surprise me you possess loads. Fits with your posts.

Wish you luck on the email problem.

Looks like I drink the wrong beer here folks.

 

[staw]

LOL! You do not drink the wrong beer. And you are correct, I have never heard of your beer. Can you liken the taste to another I might have more familiarity with?

You have a jeep and a boat, correct? I made the assumption you were more likely to be the outdoors type than the indoors type. A leap in logic. But that is allowed, I'm a woman. A breed apart and make no sense.

Don't have any fishing pics scanned. Give me a bit to get to a scanner. And I do not have any nude pics (that I know of). Videos on the other hand.... j/k

Got a handle on that email prob?

 

[Testosterone boy]

LOL! You do not drink the wrong beer. And you are correct, I have never heard of your beer. Can you liken the taste to another I might have more familiarity with?

You have a jeep and a boat, correct? I made the assumption you were more likely to be the outdoors type than the indoors type. A leap in logic. But that is allowed, I'm a woman. A breed apart and make no sense.

Don't have any fishing pics scanned. Give me a bit to get to a scanner. And I do not have any nude pics (that I know of). Videos on the other hand.... j/k

Got a handle on that email prob?

It has a unique taste. Like comparing sake to wine. Must use different ingredients I think.

I recieve email at [email protected] and send it via operamail. Nuisance but it works.

Yea....I'm outdoors as hell most years. Recessions turn me into internet surfer.....very cheap. I'll send you a pic when I get to see that big fish you caught.

 

[staw]

I will look up the beer. See what's in it.

Frantically searching for pic that makes the fish look a lot bigger. I swear it felt huge when I was pulling that sucker in. Fish stories don't work when you have to show the goods.

 

[Testosterone boy]

I will look up the beer. See what's in it.

Frantically searching for pic that makes the fish look a lot bigger. I swear it felt huge when I was pulling that sucker in. Fish stories don't work when you have to show the goods.

Think it is brewed in Fort Collins.


I know what it is like.....trying to make things look bigger.

 

[staw]

There are some things you are not suppose to admit. But naturally you were speaking only of your ...... biceps?

 

[Testosterone boy]

There are some things you are not suppose to admit. But naturally you were speaking only of your ...... biceps?

What? I'm huge everywhere but not huge enough.

 

[staw]

Ah. Was just ribbing you bit.

Too sleepy to keep my eyes open. Bound to start (or continue) writing nonsense. Night Test.

Tangent coming.... you a hockey fan?

 

[Testosterone boy]

75% of what I write is nonsense. Posting doesn't pay too great, might as well have some amusement.

What does tangent mean? Hockey is great in person. Not a TV hockey fan though.

 

[staw]

Only 75%? Would have thought much higher.

Definition of tangent: Attempting to have a conversation about a single topic (excludes themselves, shopping, beauty related crap)with a woman.

I enjoy watching hockey live. Cannot say I view much hockey on the tube. More of a sports highlights kind of person.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Only 75%? Would have thought much higher.

Definition of tangent: Attempting to have a conversation about a single topic (excludes themselves, shopping, beauty related crap)with a woman.

I enjoy watching hockey live. Cannot say I view much hockey on the tube. More of a sports highlights kind of person.

I used to watch a fair amount of sports....football and basketball. For some reason, the guys seem to have lost intensity and I rarely watch anymore.

Can't say that I can tangent on the beauty related crap. I know that HI and AAP could prolly impress you though.

 

[Frackal]

Good thread overall

 

[Testosterone boy]

Well...staw and test boy finally got together and a pretty good time was had by......me.

It started off with me spanking the monkey in the shower to prolong the ecstacy. This didn't work because her flight was late, she was hot, and it took a lot of wine and time to get her drunk enough.

She is somewhat tall with long, auburn hair and a small waist, nice c cup implants, and a major league booty. Her air of cool confidence and cerebral manner let me know that this egg would take more than a bottle of wine to crack.

Once she had a good buzz, she really started putting down the liquor in earnest and I knew she would be putty in my hands. We rented a room and I brought in my box of toys and pornos. We put down a bottle of champagne while watching the pornos. We watched a spanking scene and she asked me to spank her.

Let me tell you bros, she has a mighty fine muscular butt and my hands spent a goodly amount of time letting her know that. I unleashed my lizard and she gasped at the size. Said something about them growing larger in Colorado or something. .

Before long I was yanking her hair, slapping her ass, and riding her doggie. Then I climaxed prematurely and passed out like.....well you know.

We awoke several hours later and then the good times began in earnest. She lost track of her orgasms....or so she tells me. I only wish her flight could have been delayed.


staw.....thanks for the memories and I do hope to see you again.

 

[Frackal]

yeah right what a bunch of BALONEY

 

[Testosterone boy]

yeah right what a bunch of BALONEY

What.....you think I would make up premature ejaculation.


As you can see though, I still know how to please the ladies. We chatted today, maybe she will check in with confirmation?

 

[staw]

Wish I had the energy to write, but honestly I'm completely exhausted. And not from the flight home. Should have been on the plane, babe, you could have joined the mile high club.

T-boy the overall package... oh god yes! Big packages apparently grow in both Colorado and Alaska. Will you be seeing me again? Hope so! It was one hell of a ride. (butt is still a bit red, damn)

But I'll take it easy next time, so you'll last a bit longer.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Wish I had the energy to write, but honestly I'm completely exhausted. And not from the flight home. Should have been on the plane, babe, you could have joined the mile high club.

T-boy the overall package... oh god yes! Big packages apparently grow in both Colorado and Alaska. Will you be seeing me again? Hope so! It was one hell of a ride. (butt is still a bit red, damn)

But I'll take it easy next time, so you'll last a bit longer.

Oh yea...can't wait.


Oh...Denever is a mile high.

 

[staw]

Denver a mile high... I had forgotten.

I had a great time though I do have 2 regrets. Wasn't able to stay longer (get more sex) and I did not like the blonde in the spanking scene. Have more of a thing for brunettes. But I will forgive you for your poor choice.

As for the premature talk... you are not being entirely accurate. You are far from being a 3 pump man. After all, I did completely lose track.

IMO, you should venture my direction. Plenty of wonderful opportunties for some great photos. Especially in June. But this time around, I get to chose the porn, location, toys, and beverages.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Denver a mile high... I had forgotten.

I had a great time though I do have 2 regrets. Wasn't able to stay longer (get more sex) and I did not like the blonde in the spanking scene. Have more of a thing for brunettes. But I will forgive you for your poor choice.

As for the premature talk... you are not being entirely accurate. You are far from being a 3 pump man. After all, I did completely lose track.

IMO, you should venture my direction. Plenty of wonderful opportunties for some great photos. Especially in June. But this time around, I get to chose the porn, location, toys, and beverages.

I am making plans to venture your way in June or July for sure. This will allow ample time for....ahem....photography.

What type of porn can I expect? Unfortunately girl on girl leaves me feeling....well....left out. Also....absolutely no toys are allowed in Test boy. I was not around when the kink genes were being passed around. So AAP, who was standing next to me, got doubled up on. He liked it I hear.

 

[staw]

Hey... you could write it off as a business expense.

How about 3 some porn? You cannot possibly feel left out with that scenario. There can be one blonde chic, if you absolutely insist. Like chics with a nice firm ass, some good fake tits, flat stomache, no back fat, prettyish face, the usual. Guy has to be at minimum average looking. No beer belly, because that is just wrong. Nice if he had some definition. Will think on it and get back to you.

Toys and you?! Yikes. Not my thing. But plenty can cum this direction. Send you some ideas via email.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Hey... you could write it off as a business expense.

How about 3 some porn? You cannot possibly feel left out with that scenario. There can be one blonde chic, if you absolutely insist. Like chics with a nice firm ass, some good fake tits, flat stomache, no back fat, prettyish face, the usual. Guy has to be at minimum average looking. No beer belly, because that is just wrong. Nice if he had some definition. Will think on it and get back to you.

Toys and you?! Yikes. Not my thing. But plenty can cum this direction. Send you some ideas via email.

Yes I could and I will.

Not partial to blondes, I like brunettes. The dude should be well hung so that I can relate. Right?

Was thinking the brolys here might tire of this, perhaps best to focus on email and stuff.

 

[staw]

Agreed.

This thread got derailed nicely.