500mg of test for 10-12 weeks safe for a first cycle

[Triple J]

the obvious problem with higher dose test cycles is the estrogen. so you have to use an ai to manage that aspect, which complicates matters. i see nothing wrong with a low dose T cycle (low enough to minimize the use of an ai) along with an anabolic which does not aromatize. it just depends somewhat on your individual propensity to aromatize, and how you like the boated feeling. personally i like to stay dry but also i feel best with minimal ai use. so that means low dose T plus things like proviron, anavar, primo. i had better luck with my ai usage when i sourced it direct from a us pharmacy. my experience with research sources has been spotty, and that makes it hard to figure out the dosing. seems the last few times i ended up bloating with achy joints, the worst of both worlds, which tells me something wasn't right with my ai. I upped the dose to address the bloat, and ended up killing my joints and sex drive, but still was bloated. that just aint right. i did not have that problem with my pharmacy sourced letro, taken at 1 tab/wk (split into two dosages).

so a 500/mg wk test cycle i would say have your anti-estrogen approach figured out. if you got that under control then go for it.

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

Will 250 mg a week of test E work for everybody? It seems low...

 

[dsh89]

The reason a lot of boards suggest test only as a first cycle is so that you learn how you react to the compound. If you are running more than one compound and have issues, such as gyno, you will not know which is causing the problem. And over 8 weeks is not a "max". There are plenty of guys on test year round.

 

[digit0x]

You can pack on lean mass with just ten weeks at 250mgs.
I am a big believer in using as little as you need to reach your goals.
I get better results clean (with low test) then guys at my gym on a gram a week get.
Its all what you eat!

Listen to slat. Couple years ago he gave me the same advice and I'm telling you, you will do fine with 250 every 6-7 days. For your first cycle @ 250 you could easily pack on 15 pounds of keepable gains (probably more) with little sides, with all other things in check. That means a lot though, proper eating, exercise are key, and supplementation will help.

 

[Pump2356]

yes over 8 weeks may not be a max but in terms of negatively affecting ones health, using a strong test such as enth,cyp,suspen,or sustanon at a high dose(750mg+) can greatly affect the kidneys in the long run... I believe the author of anabolics said not to go over 8 weeks with this dosage or using dianabol for this amount of time. Even at 500mg can be hazardous if over 8 weeks. Though he listed in the 2006 addition of a 2001 study where males were given 600mg of test for 20 weeks and all that changed was the good cholesterol, but was concerned that this dosage might affect cardiovascular health later on in life

I guess its up to the individual on how they want to plan their cycle(or lack their of a cycle if your a IFBB pro or someother serious sport) to fit individual goals...

 

[oxymed]

Will 250 mg a week of test E work for everybody? It seems low...

dosent do shit for me!

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

You can pack on lean mass with just ten weeks at 250mgs.
I am a big believer in using as little as you need to reach your goals.
I get better results clean (with low test) then guys at my gym on a gram a week get.
Its all what you eat!

Is the suitability/effectiveness of 250 mg EW vs. 500 mg EW test Enth dependant on bodyweight, cycle history, etc or no?

 

[GLEN]

my bro in texas says he does 250mg cycles with nitrix and no2s and thats what he uses to win comp's///he said sometimes he uses 500mg and then with armidex or something to keep bloat...hes no pro but hes no joke either and he placed in top 3 few times and won one....he looks great

less to me is better...work harder, diet, have fun

 

[EtchedfromMarble]

I agree to the less is more philosophy with the use of AAS.

 

[dsh89]

Well when you use more mg per week, up to a point steroids do work a lot better. Otherwise pros would not be using a gram a week. And scientific studies have shown this. The business about cycles over 8 weeks beig "hazardous" is an exaggeration. I have personally been on for 22 weeks now, and I am having no problems. Fuck I feel great actually lol. And yes I regularly check my bloodwork and blood pressure.