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driwerx

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hi all
im new in this but want to share my experience and so might help someone and also support this site
little introduction about me-
1st cycle dbol 50 ed for 12 weeks no pct
half year later 2nd cycle 8 weeks test prop 150 eod tren ace 100 eod 4 weeks on winny 50 eod.pct nolva clomid
2 months later started 100 tren eod 200 test p eod 50 dbol ed along w armidex
im prone to gyno on test
age 33y gym natural 10y on and off- just to keep bit muscular.didnt do gym hard till 2 years ago as i gained very easily.
now i want to see what i cen do w my gen till i reach higher age
arms 45cm tight 62.5cm waist 84cm chest 109cm calves 44cm forearms 34.5cm
alright i did the frist pin tdy
plan test prop 200mg eod for 9 weeks
tren ace 100mg eod for 7 weeks
dbol 50mg ed for 10 weeks
along w armidex
will post u so u can see how it works even after such a short break between cycles ( finished last short cycle 9 weeks ago)
 
its clear from your past you don't really know what your doing and this layout you have shown just confirms you haven't learned anything... dbol 10 weeks? test that high? no supports for tren? just finished a cycle 9 weeks ago? do you realize the damage you are doing to yourself and are going to continue to do? you have NO BUSINESS running cycles...
 
dylangemelli said:
its clear from your past you don't really know what your doing and this layout you have shown just confirms you haven't learned anything... dbol 10 weeks? test that high? no supports for tren? just finished a cycle 9 weeks ago? do you realize the damage you are doing to yourself and are going to continue to do? you have NO BUSINESS running cycles...
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Got to agree with Dylan bro. Do some more research
 
Ok I do 6 weeks dbol 50eod
6 weeks tren 100 eod
8weeks test p 100eod ( I d do 150 but v got 1ml amps :/
Along side w armidex and liv.54
Pct week after last pin
I know it is on the edge.Thing is I compete at the end of October and its is very important competition for me. So from my last pin(pre contest prep where I did great) I got 11 months for next comp. Trying to fit in 2 cycles. One short one longer as a pre contest cycle. If I run it now for 2 months I get 3 to 4 months rest before the next one.
Do u have any better suggestions how to deal w it ?
Thanks
 
driwerx said:
Ok I do 6 weeks dbol 50eod
6 weeks tren 100 eod
8weeks test p 100eod ( I d do 150 but v got 1ml amps :/
Along side w armidex and liv.54
Pct week after last pin
I know it is on the edge.Thing is I compete at the end of October and its is very important competition for me. So from my last pin(pre contest prep where I did great) I got 11 months for next comp. Trying to fit in 2 cycles. One short one longer as a pre contest cycle. If I run it now for 2 months I get 3 to 4 months rest before the next one.
Do u have any better suggestions how to deal w it ?
Thanks
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That setup looks a lot better tbh. What's your pct?

Edit: only just noticed, you should take the dbol everyday not eod
 
Hi thanks for help. Yes dbol every day every 3-4 hours.
Pct is going to be nolvadex and clomid
I know my break was very short but I didnt get better idea. Adding picture of me after comp. Now im just more full of water as Im using creatine
 
Its been 5th day now. 3 pins of test p and tren both 100mg. Amx 0.5 eod.
Can feel the dbol as I had better pump and keeping the fulness all day yesterday. Also broke my records w squatting and bench press.
Bilieve it has effected my dream tnt as it was full of violence and numbers (?)
Didnt sleep as long as I usually do when training 2x a day.
Gained 1.5 kg so far
Will keep u posted

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Ok its a day six.nothing extra happened just the sleeping was awful again. Nodded off easily as I trained morning and evening again. But woke up every 2 hours or so. Wild dreams. "Slept" nerly 10 hours but felt like a beaten dog in the morning. I doubt its dbol I suspect the tren.

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you look great bro but i would hate for you to get gyno or have a rough recovery.

doesn't seem like you know what you are doing when it comes to cycling but you know what you are doing with your diet and training atleast. now if you can get your cycling and pct down you will be g2g.

never mix nolva with tren. and a nolva/clomid pct isn't gonna work on such a cycle. you need to do a lot more research, frankly i wish you would of researched this shit on here before starting a cycle but if you spend some time reading up on this site you can get things in the right direction so you can keep those excellent gains you have
 
Day 7. Slept better. Woke up just twice last night. Slept only 6.5h feeling a bit tired.
Double pin straight in the morning.
Morning weight 91.7kg ( 202.4 pounds)
Can feel bloating from dbol esp. in my biceps and chest.
Decided to do amx 0.5ed instead of 1mg eod as mostly recommended. Not easy to cut the tiny pill in exact half lol.
Also noticed that from amps u get 0.9 ml instead of 1ml . Bilieve u lose 0.1 ml when getting it ready for pinning
Doing quads tdy so lets see how it will go.
Also to answer question - no I dont use anything extra to fight side effects of the tren.
Ok lets get ready for work.doing 12hrs shift tdy. Legs on my break (2hrs)
By the way I am a chef so food is no issue for me lol :)


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Stevensi. Thanks for ur advice. I ll do more research to fix the pct . When I find what u meant I ll post that planning change
Regards

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Day 8
Slept like a baby.
Morning weight 92.4kg (203.5p) so its still going up.
No side effects from tren
Yesterday's leg training was great. made a personal record on legpress.realy enjoyed leg workout after a long time. Usually my leg workout means just hardcore workout and leaving the gym absolutely exhausted. This time I felt better overall. Must be the dbol :))

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Day 10
The Weight is the same. Diet is ok. Maybe should go higher w carbs but dont wanna get fatty.
Sleeping well on zma before the bed.
Might getting a bit more nervous from tren but its not that bad.
Trying to find the best pct for after.
Everyone says the same - nolva/clomid
Thinking to go more hi on tren. From 100 eod to 150. But having 1ml amps@#

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Day 11
Weight 93kg.
Not much water retention thx amx.
Went higher on test dosage. From 100 -150 mg


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Day 14
Weight 94.5 kg
Strength is still going up.
Bleeding from a left tight after pinning. Bilieve I hit vein despite I pulled an air in.
The pump during a day and in a gym is great.
Sexual functions in normal.
Sleeping is one night good and the other frequently interrupted.
Bilieve those ZMA helps a bit.
Armx last 3 days dosing .25 ed.


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Day 18
Not big change
Weight the same
Dont think this tren and test kicked in fully.
Believe Its all the dbol so far.
Stopped doing super heavy weights as I did all last month.going back to hypothropy training ( 8-12 reps). Found out that I can be much more stronger then I ever thought. Always been keen to clean technique. I did it to try if it makes me stronger for hypotrophy training
Well overall not happy w my gaining in this cycle
No side effects so far

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Its been 3 weeks now on tren test dbol.
Can feel the tren and test working as my muscle getting harder.
Weight is 94.5 kg. That means I gained somewhere 4 to 5 kg.
Sleep well. Some nights I woke up more frequently than the others.
Sexual functions normal. Might be that im actually more horny.
Bilieve that amx 0.25 ed works very well against bloating.
No side effects so far.
Sometimes my mood goes up and dwn. Especially when I have to go to work...

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Its been 3 weeks and 3 days on dbol 50mg ed tren ace 100mg eod and test prop 150mg eod
So far gained 5kg with minimum water retention thx to amx 0.25 ed.
No side effects whatsoever.
Not sure if I should be happy w my results. Just getting in the half of my cycle. Got a little bit cold as well but its not so bad.
Was thinking to put tren from 100mg to 150mg but at the end decided not to do so. Don't believe that more tren more gain. I ll will keep it as it is with no sides.
I might do tren 7 weeks instead of 6 and run test for 10 weeks. Would it be ok ?

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Here we go. Just finished 4th week.
Feeling great. Good pump in gym and strong like never.
The coldness is leaving me.
No side effects so far.
Gained 5kg.
Sexual life without changes :)

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Its been almost 5 weeks on my cycle.
Strength in a gym is great and the pump even better :)
Gained almost 5 kg with minimum water retention I believe.
Today I found a little lump undery left niple. Its small and not painful. Its on the exact place I had it last cycle and treated it w letro. But now its back.
Shall I do higher dosage of armx?
Till now I did 0.25 mg ed. Shall I start doing 1mg eod ? Or just get letro?
Appreciate any suggestion

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Not sure anybody actually read this threat.
So just little update.
Started using amx 0,5 ed to prevent growing lump.
Letro on a way

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man i would go to 1mg ED on the arimidex to combat the gyno until your letro comes in. Also, you really should consider caber for the tren because your gyno could be from progesterone. caber would help with your sleeping problems....

caber would help you with sleeping as well, and would ease you into PCT.

you can run the tren longer if you want to 8 weeks, or 10 if you aren't getting to bad of side effects.

you PCT should be:
Clomid
DAA
pct/unleased combo
forma-stanzol OR aromasin 12.5 E3D
ostarine 25mg

then go into a SARMS bridge:
ostarine
S4
GW501516

then a mini-pct 3 weeks for that:
DAA
pct/unleashed
low dose clomid (optional)

then take a couple weeks off, and prep for your pre-contest show.....i would do a max of 20 weeks for precontest cycle.
 
Thank u very much for ur help. I ll do exactly as u said.
I ll also run the tren bit longer as I dont have any sides at all.

I plan my pre contest for 16 weeks max but most probably just for 12 weeks.

Also finished d bol. Planned it for 6 weeks but sometimes less is more :)

Trying to train morning and evening whenever I get the chance hit the gym.
Sometimes it means wake up at 5 am and then again on my break at 5 pm.
Feeling bit tired but today is my day off lol. Easier day to hit gym twice :))

Wonder how much I ll gain in the second half of this cycle. So far gained around 5kg.
My diet is good. As I said I work as a chef and spend over 50hrs at work every week. Dont need shopping. ... lol

Overall I feel strong and pumped. Getting ripped as I do cardio ed.
Love being the king of our gym in a good way. Training hard but ALWAYS technically correct.
Sexual functions ok I might be a bit more horny than normally.
Not any crazy aggression from tren.




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Ok 6 weeks now. Gained between 5 to 6kg.
Have to fly suddenly abroad for 4 days. 5th day I ll be back.
Therefore I took shot tdy as 150mg of tren instead of 100. Test 200mg instead of 150mg. Tdy is sunday back on Friday.
Hope it wont effect my cycle that much...
Taking amx 1mg ed as I was adviced since I found lump under my left niple and there is an other one under my right.
Ordered letrozole but it will take time until I get it as the payment went to wrong person....
Luckily I found the rest of my liquid letro from my last cycle. Taking 1ml (2.5mg) ed. Hopefully it will last until the other one arrive
Very upset cant even train while abroad but there wont be where. Its a small East European town...
Thinking it might give me at least the rest for recovery. And when im back can hit the gym hard again :)


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Personally I think 2.5mg of letro is abit much. I would have preferred aromasin. But as some one said it could be from prolactin. The Adex should be able to take care of it. If your going to do letrozole I'd start abit lower. Maybe .5 or 1mg a day. 2.5 is rough.

I'm speaking from experience here btw..!
 
Ok I do letrozole 1mg ed for 1 week plus amx 1mg ed. But shouldn't the dosage of letrozole go higher later ? Also when I should stop taking amx? Not sure about that. I ll do more research. Thank u very much guys for all help !!
Sharing info is the best way to keep it alive for others oncoming bodybuilders ! :)

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Here I am again. Came back yesterday at 1pm. Immediately shot 150mg tren and 150mg test.
Felt shit since Thursday. Had a pain in stomach. Couldn't sleep and eat all Friday.
Feeling better tdy. Managed to eat properly and even train my arms in the morning. Still feel a slight pain but can get over it.
My morning weight was 93.5kg. That means I lost around 1 kg. Think is due to getting off the dbol week and half ago.
Otherwise feeling well and strong. Can't wait hit the gym tmw. Planning to do back and chest in super sets. Want to manage whole body twice this week.
I know people say overtraining but fuck that shit. I take break when I feel I need to :)
Oh and about my lumps - they r reversing and leaving me !!! :)


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7 weeks now. Felt very sick again all night and day. Had the stomach pain. Pissing through ass omg. Didnt eat all day again. Just black tea and dry toast.
Current weight on 91.5 kg. Thats 1kg less than yesterday. Lost through those 3 days of illness 3 kg.
Very upset abou it. Hope feeling better tmw.
Overall I gained somewhere about 3kg at this point. Diet was good. Very confused. Expected gaining around 15 -20 lbs not fucking 8 lbs.
One my friend told me that in my stage I should expect gaining like 5kg of muscle per year (??)
Also I do from tdy 0.5 mg of amx. Thats mean I dropped it down. Use it with 1.2 mg letrozole
Any opinion or experience about the gained weight on ur 3rd and higher cycle ?

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7 weeks and 2 days
Morning weight 92.1 kg.
Feeling healthy again. Fully back on track. The pump in a gym is still great and I love it.
After tdys morning pin I felt after long time the tren in my neck. Did manage not to couch ( luckily )
Was thinkink a lot about my training and decided to follow my instinct. That means I ll take break when I feel I need it. I will not exceed 1 hour workout. I ll do each body part separately ( like always )( incl. Quads and hamstrings)
Its been 2 years since I started BB as a bodybuilder ( 10y before I trained just to look good) and reached actually very good results. Incl. My qualification to British championship finals.
I can feel my sex. libido is lowering. ..
Wondering how much I gain in next 4- 5 weeks. Im actually quiet sceptic about it but well gonna finish this cycle as planned. ..


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3 days into 8 weeks cycle. Morning weight stopped on 92.1 kg every morning. It means I curried 3.5 l of water from dbol.
Don't believe I ll gain much now.
Not happy w result. Gained around 3kg of muscle. It might be caused by the 2 months break between cycles. Gonna give at least 3 - 3.5 months break untill next one.
Getting nicely cut and also dry thx to letro. Will stop amx 0.5 mg ex in 2 days. Gonna run just letro in higher dosage than till now.
Fuck left needle on gauch and my fiance nearly sat on it. She called me to the work. I told her its for friend who asked me to bring him one. That he needs it for correct ml dosages for his energy dring. God bless her , she believed me. She works as a nurse and even offered me to get me some more if je needs. Love her so much....


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Here we go...8 weeks tdy. The weigh is on the same - 92kg in the morning.
Haven't gained much but looking better.
The scale is not such a thing to follow. Many good bodybuilders say mirror is the guide.
I have tren like for three more shots if even. Test for 2 more weeks.
Finance is the issue and also would like to get rest time between cycles a bit longer than in the last case
(2 months including pct
)
My last leg workout was very destroying.
Couldn't walk properly for 4 days. Can't wait to do it again !
My first day off tdy.just finished my 4 days in row 12 shifts in the kitchen. After tdy going for other 2 x12hrs shifts. This job is killing me...doing gym in the morning and on my 2hrs break afternoon. Plus second job. Will I ever stop ?


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looking good bro. ballsee laid out a great plan for you.

you have sensational genetics if that is really you in those pics, make sure you don't fuck yourself up though and waste them by getting gyno and having to end up on the surgery table

i would talk to ledhead on here, send him a PM.. you are definately high quality bodybuilder but i am concerned when i read your original pct plan and gyno issues.
 
Thanks guys for support !! :)
To be honest I ve got a syndrom of seeing myself not good enough. Well im working on it hard to look better. Might should stop reading Flex magazine to get some self confidence :)))
Few days left to off my cycle . Feeling great overall. Just pain in shoulders and wrists but erhm.... its a challenge
Recently studied SARMS ( never heard about it before) and tried to understand to pct delivered from great Ballsee.
Because of my financial issue I have to do some cuts. This is so far prepared plan...

3 weeks PCT
clomid 50/25/12.5 or forma stazol 12.5 E3D
DAA 5mg (am) ed
Osta 12.5mg ed

Bridge 8 weeks
Osta 25mg ed
S4 50mg ed (25am 25 early afternoon)
GW501516 5mg am 5mg pm ed for 4 weeks

3 weeks mini pct
DAA 5mg ed
clomid 25/25/12.5

It will give me 1 month off then I jump on 12 weeks pre contest cycle

Hope its ok but Im ready to get hit from u guys. Thank u very much...:)


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2 days into 9 weeks cycle. Last pin of tren 2 days ago and thats it. Going to finish test prop which I ve got for last 5 doses.
Feeling great. I believe I even slightly gained. Might be because I dont use now ROHM but Signature. My best experience is with pro chem or signature serie
Still working on a small details on my pct w sarms
Bought ostarine from chem research here in uk

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Finished my cycle.
Couldn't get get that forma stanzol. Looks like people even don't know what it is. Thought I ordered one but nearly received winny instead.
So my pct starts in 3 days.
I ve got clomid 50/50/50/50
Letro 1.25 eod
Daa 5mg ed
Ostarine 25mg ed

Considering to replace letro w nolvadex.
Just thinking if its that much necessary as I have loads of letro but no nolva. ..

Haven't gain much weight as I mentioned in my last post but looking overall better.my lats and chest and legs improved.

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Have to also say that im keen to run letro through pct due to a smal lump under my left niple which appeared during cycle although I used for first 6 weeks armidex 0.25 ed.
Gyno is reversing ( there's non uder the right niple) but there's still a small one (very tiny now) under the left one...
Just hope it won't effecty sarms - ostarine. But it should not

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current weight 91 kg and running ostarine. to be honest cant feel it....
keep all I gained and looking thicker than before despite small weight gain. im also leaner in my off season than before.
going for creatine

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