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30mg/day Anavar only First Cycle???!
- Thread starter Slopain
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I know where you are coming from slo. I have had this question put to me as well.
He wants to do a cycle but he is so afraid of it that in his mind if he does this ox cycle he feels like he is doing a cycle without any health risks. Kinda like sticking your foot in the water before jumping in. The best thing you can do for him is let him do it. He will get a little bump from it. He won't die, get cancer, heart disease, high BP, go into an uncontrolled rage and kill someone on the highway or any of the other things he is afraid of. But most importantly (as far as you're concerned) he won't get the gains he wants. When he is all done and spent his money for 3 pounds of muscle he may then be ready to do a real cycle and listen to your ideas instead of the little voice in his ear made possible by the public at large.
He wants to do a cycle but he is so afraid of it that in his mind if he does this ox cycle he feels like he is doing a cycle without any health risks. Kinda like sticking your foot in the water before jumping in. The best thing you can do for him is let him do it. He will get a little bump from it. He won't die, get cancer, heart disease, high BP, go into an uncontrolled rage and kill someone on the highway or any of the other things he is afraid of. But most importantly (as far as you're concerned) he won't get the gains he wants. When he is all done and spent his money for 3 pounds of muscle he may then be ready to do a real cycle and listen to your ideas instead of the little voice in his ear made possible by the public at large.
Hey Ulter,
Newbie perspective: First time around I played around with some low dose Stanosus bought at triple price from the local gym, because I was concerned about sides, and all the other nasty things that I've always heard about AAS.
Finished up with the winny, and got nothing in return for the cost and time put into it. Frustration setting in at this point, so I decided to do some homework and found this board. Thanks to you guys I then learned about what really to expect from sides, the mail order biz, generally why an effective cycle must kill your hpta, what to take to recover, etc.
So in a dry-run sense, I consider picking up this info my first cycle. And now that's what this newbie suggests to anybody considering AAS. Find a great resource like this board, absorb a lot of info, and armed with this knowledge, make an intelligent decision about your "second" cycle. For me it was dbol, test, eq. And I'm still learning.
Newbie perspective: First time around I played around with some low dose Stanosus bought at triple price from the local gym, because I was concerned about sides, and all the other nasty things that I've always heard about AAS.
Finished up with the winny, and got nothing in return for the cost and time put into it. Frustration setting in at this point, so I decided to do some homework and found this board. Thanks to you guys I then learned about what really to expect from sides, the mail order biz, generally why an effective cycle must kill your hpta, what to take to recover, etc.
So in a dry-run sense, I consider picking up this info my first cycle. And now that's what this newbie suggests to anybody considering AAS. Find a great resource like this board, absorb a lot of info, and armed with this knowledge, make an intelligent decision about your "second" cycle. For me it was dbol, test, eq. And I'm still learning.
maxmuscle66
New member
Hey fellas....
Being a novice here and a newbie in general, I wouldn't put much stock in what I am about to express here because I am just sort of thinking out loud...
I have been told to use anavar too at about the 40-50 mg level for 8-10 weeks... the reasons? I am one of those guys who want to gain quality muscle that will hang around after the cycle for one and secondly, I don't want to use injections... not because I am a pussy but because my significant other, if she saw needles around the house would automatically blow the whistle on me.
I have been giving it some very serious thought about what I could take and this is what, after some truly great advice from some awesome bros... I have come up with... I am not to positive about the amounts though:
week 1-4: d-bol @ 30 mg/day
week 1-8: winny @ 300 mg/week
week 1-9: noveldex @ 50 mg/day
week 9-10: clomid @ 100 mg/day
week 11: clomid @ 50 mg/day
Now, having said this I would like to have some feedback on this cycle... not comments like... "You are such a dumbass..." but rather like... "Good idea but I would adjust...."
Hopefully there will be some good suggestions and feedback to this post?
Maxmuscle66
Being a novice here and a newbie in general, I wouldn't put much stock in what I am about to express here because I am just sort of thinking out loud...
I have been told to use anavar too at about the 40-50 mg level for 8-10 weeks... the reasons? I am one of those guys who want to gain quality muscle that will hang around after the cycle for one and secondly, I don't want to use injections... not because I am a pussy but because my significant other, if she saw needles around the house would automatically blow the whistle on me.
I have been giving it some very serious thought about what I could take and this is what, after some truly great advice from some awesome bros... I have come up with... I am not to positive about the amounts though:
week 1-4: d-bol @ 30 mg/day
week 1-8: winny @ 300 mg/week
week 1-9: noveldex @ 50 mg/day
week 9-10: clomid @ 100 mg/day
week 11: clomid @ 50 mg/day
Now, having said this I would like to have some feedback on this cycle... not comments like... "You are such a dumbass..." but rather like... "Good idea but I would adjust...."
Hopefully there will be some good suggestions and feedback to this post?
Maxmuscle66
Double that dosage and he'll have some really nice quality LBM/Strength gains...
split endz
New member
My first was 37.5 mg/ed of var. I gained 18 lbs eating a bulking diet(not clean), and kept about 10... not bad
