2nd cycle: test e + primo and how to effectively run pct after?

[shikios]

Hey good people,I'm 36, male, 5.8 ft / 183 lbs / 14% bf with atheletic build and bit muscular frame now (been training quite hard for the past 1.3 years - started 210 lbs and 32% bf and trained 6 days a week but only 4 days a week - split into upper and lower body days)I ran my very first cycle in May (just test-e) for 8 weeks with low dose of 100mg a week to see how my body reacts. After the cycle, only took clomid.Now, I started my 2nd cycle (with bit more knowledge of different steroids and their effects etc.) Started Aug, been doing test-e 250mg every 5 days (2 pins a week making it 500mg) combined with anavar 40mg (split into 2) a day (ran anavar for 5 weeks and stopped now).I read quite bit and primo seems to be very good with low side effects that suits my need - never been a big fan of huge size. Considered masteron but my body fat is high for it to be effective.What dosage and length should I ran my primo (considering my 250mg every 5 days - 500mg a week test-e)?Also based on my cycle (test-e, stopped anavar and soon to start primo), what pct or hcg should I do and for how long? A friend who is semi pro in the nationals suggested not to do pct during cycle. Is that okay? I read that people run pct with their cycles and im confused.

Pls advice this newbie and help out in my successful 2nd cycle. Thank you all.

 

[stevesmi]

hey man can you get a log going on this? also post up pics?

that would help us give you the best advice possible

 

[dylangemelli]

12 weeks of primo at 400-600 mg per week

Did you seriously just say a friend suggested to not do pct?? that a great way to completely wreck yourself... whoever advised you that is no friend at all.. TIME ON cycle PLUS PCT = time off MINIMUM.. you are getting advice that will lead to pretty severe and life altering consequence...


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[shikios]

Could you elaborate what these mean - how to take these 50mg a day or week?

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Hey good people,I'm 36, male, 5.8 ft / 183 lbs / 14% bf with atheletic build and bit muscular frame now (been training quite hard for the past 1.3 years - started 210 lbs and 32% bf and trained 6 days a week but only 4 days a week - split into upper and lower body days)I ran my very first cycle in May (just test-e) for 8 weeks with low dose of 100mg a week to see how my body reacts. After the cycle, only took clomid.Now, I started my 2nd cycle (with bit more knowledge of different steroids and their effects etc.) Started Aug, been doing test-e 250mg every 5 days (2 pins a week making it 500mg) combined with anavar 40mg (split into 2) a day (ran anavar for 5 weeks and stopped now).I read quite bit and primo seems to be very good with low side effects that suits my need - never been a big fan of huge size. Considered masteron but my body fat is high for it to be effective.What dosage and length should I ran my primo (considering my 250mg every 5 days - 500mg a week test-e)?Also based on my cycle (test-e, stopped anavar and soon to start primo), what pct or hcg should I do and for how long? A friend who is semi pro in the nationals suggested not to do pct during cycle. Is that okay? I read that people run pct with their cycles and im confused.

Pls advice this newbie and help out in my successful 2nd cycle. Thank you all.

@shikios welcome to the EF family! nice to see you here.

if you want to know how to use primobolan and if you need masteron, we have the answers bro. I suggest primobolan and masteron but WAIT...before we talk your cycle, we are alll talking nonsense since we know nothing about you bro at ALL! we need to know your diet training log on this cycle and we need to see your base picture and your full LOG journal diary. Post one.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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[SteveMobsterG]

How much of a year is .3?

 

[25homes]

We have a stick for this

 

[dylangemelli]

Could you elaborate what these mean - how to take these 50mg a day or week?

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

clomid... 50 mg per day the first two weeks then drop to 25 mg per day the next 2 weeks

nolva 40 mg per day the first two weeks then drop to 20 mg per day the next 2 weeks

 

[ceo]

bros gotta update us more info
get a log going!
primo and masteron both similar dht's. might not be best stack

 

[ROIDDERS]

Very hard to guide you on this without knowing anything about your diet, training calm asleep, or to supplements that you're taking. Also you're listening to a friend who's giving you bad advice.
need a log now