2nd cycle Test, Deca Dbol

[Hardgainer8119]

I was looking for some opinoins on this next cycle I am planning.
I am 5'11" 150 lbs 9% bf, very active run every morning, and eat right. Been working out for over 5 years.
looking to run
wk 1-8 500mg test E
wk 1-8 250mg-400mg deca
wk 1-5 30mg D-bol

pct Clomide
Nolvadex on hand.

What about running Nolva during the cycle or Armidex?
Thanks

 

[Bruce]

we have a similar build im a bit taller and lower bf, but imo drop the clomid, nolva is great and does the same thing, get some pct and yes adex is great for the bloat. maybe even some proviron. your runs are gonna be tough with the dbol but that is a great mass cycle. have fun, get some hcg

 

[krishna]

Ya what Bruce said. I'd do the a-dex while on for the bloat. That cycle is a classic gainer; can't go wrong with it.

 

[sweed]

5'11'' 150lbs... is that a typo? if this is your second cycle how much were u before u started? how old are you? i think at 5'11'' you should be at least 200 before starting to cycle,. imo. but if u want to do it... 10 weeks test 500.. deca 400 and 30mgs of dbol for 4 weeks will be a good 2nd cycle . that is exactly my second cycle.

 

[ruggermu]

Bruce hit it about the runs. Good luck Bro. I tried to run a few times during the dbol part of my cycle, and that really didn't work calves felt like they'd explode after a quarter mile. Only cardio that was even an option was the heavy bag.

 

[Bruce]

hardgainer i am also a hardgainer, just wondering what did you weigh when u started your first, and how much were you able to put on naturally before that. like i have a 28 inch waist and tiny joints and frame plus i'm 5% naturally so i am only pushin 165, but i was only 125 full grown and got to 145 natty, it was after 4 more years of almost puking every morning trying to pound calories that i went to gear, and it works, for some of us ecto's gear is truly a miracle drug as long as we eat right. at 150 though you could really just run some test or test and dbol like sweed and you should be good to go. save the deca for when you need that much gear to grow, just my opinion and by most standards i am too small to be using gear

 

[Hardgainer8119]

Well 5'11" and 150 is not a typo, before I joined the military I weighed 125lb at age of 18 after a few yearsof the military and working out I got up to 135lbs, I took my first cycle dbol and test and got up to 155lbs but lost some due to improper pct adn advice from others. Now time to get back in to it I have a very high metabolism, at one time I was taking in like 6000 calories a day and still couldn't gain much weight. I am hoping to get some gains on this next cycle. I think i might purchase some liquidex from ag guys heard good things. What do you all think?

hardgainer i am also a hardgainer, just wondering what did you weigh when u started your first, and how much were you able to put on naturally before that. like i have a 28 inch waist and tiny joints and frame plus i'm 5% naturally so i am only pushin 165, but i was only 125 full grown and got to 145 natty, it was after 4 more years of almost puking every morning trying to pound calories that i went to gear, and it works, for some of us ecto's gear is truly a miracle drug as long as we eat right. at 150 though you could really just run some test or test and dbol like sweed and you should be good to go. save the deca for when you need that much gear to grow, just my opinion and by most standards i am too small to be using gear

 

[Bruce]

yea get liquid adex and nolva. read up in the pct forum. its a pain eating like a cow and not getting bigger i feel you

 

[NORMA-MAN]

dont do the deca under 400mg/week or you gonna waste it bro

 

[gettinkrunkd]

anything for the dreaded deca gyno bro, cause that would suck then if you got it with nothing for it...

 

[RADAR]

dont do the deca under 400mg/week or you gonna waste it bro

I agree with this!

RADAR

 

[Hardgainer8119]

Will do deca at 400mg, and also going to get liquidex for cycle

 

[bigrand]

Id also say run the dbol for 6-8 weeks. 30mg isnt too much and its pretty easy on the liver when you split the dose. weeks 2-10 would be nice. 500/400 test deca respectivly.

 

[jokerswild]

I was looking for some opinoins on this next cycle I am planning.
I am 5'11" 150 lbs 9% bf, very active run every morning, and eat right. Been working out for over 5 years.
looking to run
wk 1-8 500mg test E
wk 1-8 250mg-400mg deca
wk 1-5 30mg D-bol

pct Clomide
Nolvadex on hand.

What about running Nolva during the cycle or Armidex?
Thanks

You have my build, I was 140 when I started lifted 5 years ago, got to 165 natty, just finished my first cycle and am near 180lbs now. I too am running test deca dbol for my second cycle, here is my plan

1-4 40mg dbol
1-12 500 Test E or Sust
1-12 500 Deca
12-14 40mg dbol, start PCT right after

HCG EOD 1000iu's during week six

Pct HCG and Nolva, I strongly advise you against the clomid, that shit messes with your mind, also I would run longer than 8 weeks.....

 

[bigrand]

what about letrozole for PCT?
I do like the load size while taking clomid though.....

 

[Hardgainer8119]

This is my revised cycle
1-5 30mg dbol
1-10 500mg Test E or cyp
1-10 400 mg Deca
1-10 .5mg Arimidex EOD
Clomide and Nolva for PCT...what amount of Nolva would you take looked at the boards and there are way too many variance, just trying to find the standard PCT Thanks

You have my build, I was 140 when I started lifted 5 years ago, got to 165 natty, just finished my first cycle and am near 180lbs now. I too am running test deca dbol for my second cycle, here is my plan

1-4 40mg dbol
1-12 500 Test E or Sust
1-12 500 Deca
12-14 40mg dbol, start PCT right after

HCG EOD 1000iu's during week six

Pct HCG and Nolva, I strongly advise you against the clomid, that shit messes with your mind, also I would run longer than 8 weeks.....

 

[Hardgainer8119]

Just started my cycle today:
1-10 500mg test E
1-10 400mg Deca
1-4or5 30mg D-bol
also running .5 arimidex everyday

Got a questiong though what would your guys preference be on injecting the 4ml of oil
all Test 1 shot, then all Deca in another? all together? or split does in halves and shoot every like 3-4 days?
Thanks...will keep everybody posted on my results as the weeks go on.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

I would split up and go for 250mg TE and Deca 200mg together on Monday and then the same again on Thursday. Something like that. my 0.02

 

[Hardgainer8119]

I would split up and go for 250mg TE and Deca 200mg together on Monday and then the same again on Thursday. Something like that. my 0.02

Thanks, I think that is what I am going to do. Anyone else have any suggestions?

p.s. Just got back from the gym Major Pumps, Man I love D- bol

 

[ryan04]

Thats the classic bulker...probably the best bulk cycle you can do. Run the deca at 3-400 mgs. Good luck bro.

 

[taste-icles]

This is my revised cycle
1-5 30mg dbol
1-10 500mg Test E or cyp
1-10 400 mg Deca
1-10 .5mg Arimidex EOD
Clomide and Nolva for PCT...what amount of Nolva would you take looked at the boards and there are way too many variance, just trying to find the standard PCT Thanks

Personally, as a hardgainer too, not as bad as you sound though. I'd run dbol 6-8 weeks like previously mentioned, leaning more on the 8, everything else checks out. Keep your liver in check bro, 8 weeks @ 30mgs/day can be pretty harsh, but it may be the best way to slap on some mass. Nolva: for that much gear, I think 20mgs/day. Between Nolva and adex, your grapes won't turn to raisins too quickly.

 

[Hardgainer8119]

Personally, as a hardgainer too, not as bad as you sound though. I'd run dbol 6-8 weeks like previously mentioned, leaning more on the 8, everything else checks out. Keep your liver in check bro, 8 weeks @ 30mgs/day can be pretty harsh, but it may be the best way to slap on some mass. Nolva: for that much gear, I think 20mgs/day. Between Nolva and adex, your grapes won't turn to raisins too quickly.

Thanks, Have plenty of Nolva on hand probly won't start taking until middle of cycle or unless needed. Going to work out Back and tris today , cant wait for those famous D-bol back pumps.

 

[The Terminator]

Well 5'11" and 150 is not a typo, before I joined the military I weighed 125lb at age of 18 after a few yearsof the military and working out I got up to 135lbs, I took my first cycle dbol and test and got up to 155lbs but lost some due to improper pct adn advice from others. Now time to get back in to it I have a very high metabolism, at one time I was taking in like 6000 calories a day and still couldn't gain much weight.

If 6000 calories a day is what it takes you to grow naturally then you NEED to eat more BEFORE you start using steroids...

ALL the gear in the world wont give you any lasting gains if you arent able to eat enough to get/maintain them
(I should know, NOONE burns calories faster than I do )