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Liftstrong12

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My first cycle was a few months ago and I ran test prop with var and had great results. The only problem was that I did start to develop gyno about half way through and developed some joint issues from the adex I believe...most went away except I now have tendonitis which I believe is from the adex too. Thoughts on this?

This is what my 2nd cycle will look like.

On cycle:
1-10 test prop @ 400mg/wk
1-10 Adex or Letro? if adex .25g eod
1-10 HCG @ 500iu's/wk
5-10 Var @ 80mg/day
every other two weeks clen @ 80mcg/day

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

What do you think?
 
Cycle layout
1-12 50mg ed
1-12 n2guard
4-12 hcgenerate
4-12 anavar 80mg ed
1-14 adex .25ed
5-14hcg 500iu

Pct
15-18 n2guard
15-18 hcgnerate es
15-18 adex .25ed
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed

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I also forgot ostarin 25mg ed for four weeks during pct from sarms1

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Liftstrong12 said:
My first cycle was a few months ago and I ran test prop with var and had great results. The only problem was that I did start to develop gyno about half way through and developed some joint issues from the adex I believe...most went away except I now have tendonitis which I believe is from the adex too. Thoughts on this?

This is what my 2nd cycle will look like.

On cycle:
1-10 test prop @ 400mg/wk
1-10 Adex or Letro? if adex .25g eod
1-10 HCG @ 500iu's/wk
5-10 Var @ 80mg/day
every other two weeks clen @ 80mcg/day

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

What do you think?
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1-8 Test Prop, 100mg/eod
1-8 Anavar, 50-60mg/day
1-8 GW-50, 20mg/day (sarms1.com)
1-8 Aromasin, 12.5mg/eod (ag-guys.com)
1-8 N2Guard, (n2bm.com)
5-8 HCG, 1000iu/week

9-12 Clomid, 50/50/25/25 (ag-guys.com)
9-12 Nolva, 40/40/20/20 (ag-guys.com)
9-12 Liquidex, 2ml/day (n2bm.com)
9-14 GW-50, 20mg/day
9-12 HCGenerate (n2bm.com)
9-14 Unleashed, (n2bm.com) or (proteinfactory.com)
9-14 DAA, (n2bm.com)
 
Liftstrong12 said:
My first cycle was a few months ago and I ran test prop with var and had great results. The only problem was that I did start to develop gyno about half way through and developed some joint issues from the adex I believe...most went away except I now have tendonitis which I believe is from the adex too. Thoughts on this?

This is what my 2nd cycle will look like.

On cycle:
1-10 test prop @ 400mg/wk
1-10 Adex or Letro? if adex .25g eod
1-10 HCG @ 500iu's/wk
5-10 Var @ 80mg/day
every other two weeks clen @ 80mcg/day

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

What do you think?
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you should not use letro unless you are treating pre existing gyno or you have no other alternative bro... its extremely strong and should be used accordingly... where is your protection while taking anavar??? you MUST run n2guard alongside.... your pct is absolutely horrible... lets fix this cycle...

1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-14 gw 501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-10 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-10 "liquidex" n2bm.com
3-10 hcgenerate es n2bm.com
5-10 anavar 60 mg day
5-10 n2guard n2bm.com

pct 11-14

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms Ruthless Supplements
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators



USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
 
Liftstrong12 said:
My first cycle was a few months ago and I ran test prop with var and had great results. The only problem was that I did start to develop gyno about half way through and developed some joint issues from the adex I believe...most went away except I now have tendonitis which I believe is from the adex too. Thoughts on this?

This is what my 2nd cycle will look like.

On cycle:
1-10 test prop @ 400mg/wk
1-10 Adex or Letro? if adex .25g eod
1-10 HCG @ 500iu's/wk
5-10 Var @ 80mg/day
every other two weeks clen @ 80mcg/day

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

What do you think?
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I appreciate the advice I've already been given... ...but, If someone could give me their opinion regarding my set up and tell me why I should make the recommended changes. I'm looking for advice that does not include a sales pitch for particular products. If I need to add/remove anything just point me in the right direction and tell me why I need the change. Thanks again in advance for any and all help!
 
Liftstrong12 said:
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I appreciate the advice I've already been given... ...but, If someone could give me their opinion regarding my set up and tell me why I should make the recommended changes. I'm looking for advice that does not include a sales pitch for particular products. If I need to add/remove anything just point me in the right direction and tell me why I need the change. Thanks again in advance for any and all help!
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Listen my friend, do you want real advice? If you do, your cycle and PCT has to be completely redone. :cool:
 
Liftstrong12 said:
My first cycle was a few months ago and I ran test prop with var and had great results. The only problem was that I did start to develop gyno about half way through and developed some joint issues . Thoughts on this?

This is what my 2nd cycle will look like.

On cycle:
1-10 test prop @ 400mg/wk
1-10 Adex .33g eod
1-10 HCG @ 500iu's/wk
5-10 Var @ 80mg/day
every other two weeks clen @ 80mcg/day

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

What do you think?
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Help me out bros, need a cycle review where I'm given the whys if you see a problem and suggestions that are not solicitis. I appreciate all the help, just looking for info on what needs to be fixed and why.
 
I already told you why to not take letro... your pct is fucking terrible... its incomplete and you will have a horrible time with recovery and chance are you will not keep your gains... you have been given COMPLETE and extensive pct options to fully recover and to help you keep your gains... running hcg as long as you have planned is going to cause nothing but problems... it will increase estrogen after a certain point... your body will adapt it after extended use making it ineffective... it also simply mimics LH and that is not a good thing to be doing for too long... sarms additions were made to make your cycle more complete and to maximize what you can accomplish... you never listed n2guard with anavar and so you are not protecting yourself in any way... you will be making a huge mistake running a METHYLATED ORAL with no protection... you need to protect your liver, bp, kidneys, lipids, cholesterol etc... with anavar... you need hcgenerate es on cycle... HcGenerate ES is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains… It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle...then you blast hcg before pct...

so is that enough explaination? there is no product pushing... this is setting you up for the smoothest possible cycle, with maximum gains and enhanced recovery.... i only design cycles that will produce maximum benefits with extensive recovery and most keepability.... you do whatever you want with it bro...
 
You need to listen to Dylan here bro... He is giving you some really solid advice. All of the products he has given are staples to every cycle I do as well as many others who have any sense.

N2guard
HCGenerate ES
Sarms1
Aromasin

All very very essential... if you want to maximize and keep hard earned gains I suggest you listen.

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25 mg of ostarine as PCT is too much ( it start to be suppresiv ) 10mg is plenty, your PCT is Fine those guys must be BIG JUICERS and forgot about they first cycles lol, to tell you that your pct is horrible lol GUYS ITS JUST 400mg of test + anavar its not a big suppresiv cycle, you dont need HCG its a very light cycle your balls will not be hurt at all. You should start with anavar with first week ( if its real var ). But you listen who you want and do what you want :) good luck bro
 
25mg is not to much.. amd his PCT was shit.. now you can listen to seasoned vets or the guy with 1 post

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