2Cycle - Test & EQ

[Ziggyy]

Hi guys

This will be my second cycle after doing this dumb oral only. Did Anavar 60mg for 5 weeks with 3 weeks of nolvadex. Had my macros in check and was on my maintain levels.. Went up about 4kg on the cycle but when the cycle finished and I went down and only kept about 2kg... Under pct i wast eating around 500 kcal more than on cycle. IT has now gone 5 months and I want to do another cycle inclouding Test Enethat and EQ. I know a lot of you guys will say stick to test it will be better then you know what drug couses the side effects etc etc but If I would do this cycle I have some options I would like to get some help on....

My main goal from this cycle is to keep as much muscle mass as possible after my pct. I want to incloud both HC Generate, Nolvadex and Clomid as well as my diet will be tracked and my training will be spot on during pct. High intensy 4 times per week with heavy weights...


Was thinking of running a total of 14 weeks as EQ starts to kick in slow. I will finish my eq at week 13 so both the test and eq clear out of my system at the same time for my PCT.


So here it is option 1:
- 500mg test enethat
- 400mg Eq
- Arimadex - but i dont know how often?
- HC Generate - Should I use it during mid cycle and trough my pct? or 10 days out from my last test injection?

Option 2
- 250mg Test enethat
- 600mg EQ
- Arimadex

Option 3
-300mg test enethat
-500mg EQ

Option 4
-200mg test enethat
-600mg EQ

PCT:
clomid-100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20 ?

What do you guys recommend for lean keepable gains? I dont want to blow up and get all this water retention and acne.. I know arimadex will help me with that. I am not 100% sure when to run my hc generate so any help would be good guys. Sorry for my bad english btw Im from Brazil

STATS:
Age: 23
Heigh: 177
Weight: 79
BF: 10%
Training: 6 years - 2 years with a strict diet tracking my macros every day..

 

[project88]

I'm currently on 500mg test 600mg EQ. I have not blown up but rather seeing more vascularity and more pumps daily. Strength is increasing. I am enjoying this cycle. Run 600mg EQ minimum

 

[Ziggyy]

I'm currently on 500mg test 600mg EQ. I have not blown up but rather seeing more vascularity and more pumps daily. Strength is increasing. I am enjoying this cycle. Run 600mg EQ minimum

Would it not be too much for a second cycle?

 

[Yoshimistu]

Run 500 mg testo i suggest sustanon,with 500 mg bolde,for second cycle is ok. During i'll take 3 caps week of 1 mg arimidex. During hcg two shoot of 500 ui week,in pct 2000 week for the first 4 week after keep down to 1500 for two week,with a caps of letro 2,5 mg one day and one not. After blood work and decide how to proceed. I suggest letro becouse clinically is the most powerlfull on the condition of ipogonadism aftercycle. But arimidex is approxymately the same.

 

[bigorse]

eq needs to be ran 16 weeks minimum imo so youd want to be on eq for 16 weeks and test for 17 which is a long time to be on if you cycle off. how ever this cycle is OK but you will want a good aggressive pct

 

[Ziggyy]

eq needs to be ran 16 weeks minimum imo so youd want to be on eq for 16 weeks and test for 17 which is a long time to be on if you cycle off. how ever this cycle is OK but you will want a good aggressive pct

I dont want to stay on that long mate. So I would not benefit from 14 weeks of eq at all?

 

[Ziggyy]

During hcg two shoot of 500 ui week,in pct 2000 week for the first 4 week after keep down to 1500 for two week

So you recommend injecting HCG. Would it not be fine to take HC Generate tabs both on and off cycle?

 

[bigorse]

I dont want to stay on that long mate. So I would not benefit from 14 weeks of eq at all?

you would benefit but its not optimal.

 

[j_p]

Hi guys

This will be my second cycle after doing this dumb oral only. Did Anavar 60mg for 5 weeks with 3 weeks of nolvadex. Had my macros in check and was on my maintain levels.. Went up about 4kg on the cycle but when the cycle finished and I went down and only kept about 2kg... Under pct i wast eating around 500 kcal more than on cycle. IT has now gone 5 months and I want to do another cycle inclouding Test Enethat and EQ. I know a lot of you guys will say stick to test it will be better then you know what drug couses the side effects etc etc but If I would do this cycle I have some options I would like to get some help on....

My main goal from this cycle is to keep as much muscle mass as possible after my pct. I want to incloud both HC Generate, Nolvadex and Clomid as well as my diet will be tracked and my training will be spot on during pct. High intensy 4 times per week with heavy weights...


Was thinking of running a total of 14 weeks as EQ starts to kick in slow. I will finish my eq at week 13 so both the test and eq clear out of my system at the same time for my PCT.


So here it is option 1:
- 500mg test enethat
- 400mg Eq
- Arimadex - but i dont know how often?
- HC Generate - Should I use it during mid cycle and trough my pct? or 10 days out from my last test injection?

Option 2
- 250mg Test enethat
- 600mg EQ
- Arimadex

Option 3
-300mg test enethat
-500mg EQ

Option 4
-200mg test enethat
-600mg EQ

PCT:
clomid-100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20 ?

What do you guys recommend for lean keepable gains? I dont want to blow up and get all this water retention and acne.. I know arimadex will help me with that. I am not 100% sure when to run my hc generate so any help would be good guys. Sorry for my bad english btw Im from Brazil

STATS:
Age: 23
Heigh: 177
Weight: 79
BF: 10%
Training: 6 years - 2 years with a strict diet tracking my macros every day..

PCT is fine, adex i rec 0.25mg-0.5mg eod ( start with lower dose ot .25 IMO)
i rec test only, or even maste over eq. its pretty much like really watered downs test and makes blood more thicker than most aas IMO. pretty much bup up the test 100-200mg and have an AI goign if anything

 

[Ziggyy]

Do I have to inject HCG or is HC Generate the tabs fine?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

PCT is fine, adex i rec 0.25mg-0.5mg eod ( start with lower dose ot .25 IMO)
i rec test only, or even maste over eq. its pretty much like really watered downs test and makes blood more thicker than most aas IMO. pretty much bup up the test 100-200mg and have an AI goign if anything

This is spot on.
Also you need to get real HCG and inject it.
HCghenrate isnt gonna do shit for you while you are shut down. HCG on cycle at a low dose (250iu's-2x/week) will maintain leydig cell function and make your recovery of HPTA function in your PCT faster , smoother, and aid in gains retention.
Also HCG has some smaller added benefits on cycle as well. It back-fills hormonal pathways which can give you benefits like a better sense of well being and more energy etc. There is no substitute for HCG man.

 

[Ziggyy]

There is no substitute for HCG man.

Ok bro I will defently get my hands on some real HCG. So how many times should i Inject a week with all test, eq and the hcg? And should I start the HCG from day 1 ?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Ok bro I will defently get my hands on some real HCG. So how many times should i Inject a week with all test, eq and the hcg? And should I start the HCG from day 1 ?

Id run HCG from day 1 and inject it 2x/week. 250iu's per injection.

 

[Ziggyy]

Id run HCG from day 1 and inject it 2x/week. 250iu's per injection.

Thank you very much for your time brother for helping me out. I dont want to do anything 70%. This cycle i want to do everything 100% right.

As for my cycle brother do you recommend:

1:
250mg test e
600mg eq
14 weeks

OR

2:
500mg test e
400mg eq

My main goal is to get a lean nice look. Dont want to be bloated. Want to gain as much quality as possible that I can maintain after my pct. And how many KG do you think I can gain with a cycle like this? If my macros are tracked with a 500 kcal + everyday with a split of 40/40/20 in carbs, prots and fat.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Thank you very much for your time brother for helping me out. I dont want to do anything 70%. This cycle i want to do everything 100% right.

As for my cycle brother do you recommend:

1:
250mg test e
600mg eq
14 weeks

OR

2:
500mg test e
400mg eq

My main goal is to get a lean nice look. Dont want to be bloated. Want to gain as much quality as possible that I can maintain after my pct. And how many KG do you think I can gain with a cycle like this? If my macros are tracked with a 500 kcal + everyday with a split of 40/40/20 in carbs, prots and fat.

#2 will yield much greater gains and after you drop whatever water you retain (which can be minimal anyway) post cycle you will look much better as you will have more LBM.
Keep diet on track and take your ai and bloat shouldn't be much of an issue at all.
As far as gains I have no idea. I cannot speculate as to what you might gain. We all respond differently and there are way to many factors besides what you are taking that will determine overall gains and look you will achieve. Suffice it to say if done properly with diet and training on point, proper ancillaries and CT in place you should end up very pleased with your results.

 

[Ziggyy]

#2 will yield much greater gains and after you drop whatever water you retain (which can be minimal anyway) post cycle you will look much better as you will have more LBM.
Keep diet on track and take your ai and bloat shouldn't be much of an issue at all.
As far as gains I have no idea. I cannot speculate as to what you might gain. We all respond differently and there are way to many factors besides what you are taking that will determine overall gains and look you will achieve. Suffice it to say if done properly with diet and training on point, proper ancillaries and CT in place you should end up very pleased with your results.

Thank you brother. I will use you as my mentor during my cycle as it looks like you know what you are talking about. Will start my cycle 1 October so I will keep you guys updated!

One more question: Should i run the HCG during my PCT also? or should i finish it after my last test e injection?

Question 2:
Is 14 weeks a little too long for my first ever test cycle? will it be much harder to come back to my natural levels from this rather than a 12 week cycle?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Thank you brother. I will use you as my mentor during my cycle as it looks like you know what you are talking about. Will start my cycle 1 October so I will keep you guys updated!

One more question: Should i run the HCG during my PCT also? or should i finish it after my last test e injection?

Question 2:
Is 14 weeks a little too long for my first ever test cycle? will it be much harder to come back to my natural levels from this rather than a 12 week cycle?

Stop hcg 3 days pre pct.
As far as cycle length and recovery there will not be much difference in that regard between 12 or 14 weeks. You can always plan on 14 and if gains have plateaued at 12 just cut it short.

 

[Ziggyy]

Stop hcg 3 days pre pct.
As far as cycle length and recovery there will not be much difference in that regard between 12 or 14 weeks. You can always plan on 14 and if gains have plateaued at 12 just cut it short.

Sounds as a good idea bro thx

Would it be overkill to kickstart it with turinabol 4 week 50mg ed?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Sounds as a good idea bro thx

Would it be overkill to kickstart it with turinabol 4 week 50mg ed?

Not really. I used tbol for the first time last year. I actually liked it. Its pretty mild but no bloat what so ever. Its a nice choice based on what your goal is. If your gonna kickstart with something I think its a good choice based on what you have outlined.

 

[Ziggyy]

Not really. I used tbol for the first time last year. I actually liked it. Its pretty mild but no bloat what so ever. Its a nice choice based on what your goal is. If your gonna kickstart with something I think its a good choice based on what you have outlined.

Ok bro will take that under considuration :=)

 

[Ziggyy]

Guys if I use this cycle:
14 WEEKS:
Test E 500mg week
EQ 400mg week
HCG 500iu week - 2times per week 250iu's per injection.
Nolvadex
Arimadex
Clomid

DO I need to inject 4 TIMES a week?? 200eq with 250test and 250ius of HCG on is own? Or can i put my HCG with both EQ and Test in the same syringe?

 

[Ziggyy]

And will this cycle be a better option?? becouse I dont need to inject that often then!!

12 WEEK:
test enethat 500mg every day
week 1-6: Tbol 50mg every day
HCG 500ui - 250 with the 250 test e 2 injections a week

pct with nolva and clomid and hc generate

 

[Saiyan7]

And will this cycle be a better option?? becouse I dont need to inject that often then!!

12 WEEK:
test enethat 500mg every day
week 1-6: Tbol 50mg every day
HCG 500ui - 250 with the 250 test e 2 injections a week

pct with nolva and clomid and hc generate

500 test E every day? I hope you mean week. And that's still high for a week. Most don't ever need to go even that high.
Tbol is fine at 50/day.
HCG looks good.

 

[Ziggyy]

500 test E every day? I hope you mean week. And that's still high for a week. Most don't ever need to go even that high.
Tbol is fine at 50/day.
HCG looks good.

a week bro. Do you recommend doing 250 test e with 400 eq instead? do you think it will be better for my second cycle?

What about doing a cycle og 500mg test e with 50mg t bol first 6 weeks for 12 weeks??

or do you think 500test e with 400 eq and hcg will be better? ¨

My main question is this; and i would love to get some help guys please.... If I do the cycle with test e, hcg and eq how often a week do I need to inject? and how many injections? I dont really understand this... couse hcg needs to be injectet at its own? but both eq and test could be stacked over a 2 time a week ?

please i really need this help guys thx!!

 

[Saiyan7]

I have not run EQ. Most people say not to dose below 600.
If you want to wait on the EQ, just run the test and dbol. 250-500 is ok for test. I'd stick to the lower side for the first few cycles.
Separate your long esters into twice a week. So Test e/cyp, deca, EQ, all of these I would do half the dose, twice a week.

I would run the dbol at 40 max though.

 

[Ziggyy]

I have not run EQ. Most people say not to dose below 600.
If you want to wait on the EQ, just run the test and dbol. 250-500 is ok for test. I'd stick to the lower side for the first few cycles.
Separate your long esters into twice a week. So Test e/cyp, deca, EQ, all of these I would do half the dose, twice a week.

I would run the dbol at 40 max though.

I just ordered this cycle

12 weeks
- 500mg Test E
- HCG 500iu pinned same as test e
First 1-6 weeks:
- 50mg Anavar Every day (It is very good quality anavar)

pct clomid/novola 100/100/50/50 - 50/50/25/25
Liv52 whole cycle plus looking into other liver supports.

I know I can not put the HCG and Test in the same syringe. So I would have to shoot it up by it self. But my question and i really hope someone can help me out here guys... .

Can I shoot the test 500mg at once 1 time a week and the same 500ui HCG once a week? This will be 2 injections...

Or should I do 250test e and 250HCG on monday and the same at tuesday?

Considering this is my first cycle it would be good to inject only 2 not 4...

 

[Ziggyy]

bump brothers

 

[project88]

Ur test levels will prob gal if u go 6 days no injection. They'll stay more stable if u shoot test 250 x2. HCG. I do not know, Ive heard that u should shoot HCG day before test but I have never used it.

 

[project88]

** drop

 

[Ziggyy]

Ur test levels will prob gal if u go 6 days no injection. They'll stay more stable if u shoot test 250 x2. HCG. I do not know, Ive heard that u should shoot HCG day before test but I have never used it.

Thank you my friend. Still wainting for the HCG haha

 

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fuck off. Guys still no help. HCG? Is it possible to shoot it all 500iu at once a week?

 

[Saiyan7]

I think the half life of HCG is pretty short. Even on TRT, docs want it shot twice a week. But I can't say from experience.

 

[Ziggyy]

I think the half life of HCG is pretty short. Even on TRT, docs want it shot twice a week. But I can't say from experience.

Thank you bro. Think I will have to do 4 injections a week... 2 of test 250 monday and thursday and same with hcg...