20 weeks of test e 250..

[imouttie24]

Taking test e 250..did my second pin yesterday, Thursday will be my third..doing a half cc every Monday and Thursday..doing two 10ml bottles for a total of 20 weeks..i have Arimidex on its way..won't be here for about two and half weeks tho..I already have a brand new bag of letrozole but was told they are to strong..what if I took a half of half everyother day? And what's the differents bewteen hcgenerate and bridge..would a test booster like testo fx load or test freak work the same? For my pct I have Clomid and will be getting hcgenerate or if I can't something that will work just the same..any ideas how to break my pct down and when to start taking the test booster? And is there anything else that's a must to run with the clomid..I'm almost 6"3 222lbs work out five days a week and this is my frist cycle..I have taken testo fx load and gained 15 lbs and had a nice strength increase..other than that just protein.. creatine. ..mult vitiams..fish oils..bcaas..

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[imouttie24]

Bump...need some help fellas..Monday was my sec pin..feeling more drive once I start working out so far other than that maybe a little more pump in my legs..and buddy said shoulders are bigger but Idk I hear normaly takes two weeks and its been a week and a day...

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[NegroPops]

you do not want to run letro as an AI.. it is far to strong and will absolutely deplete your estro levels, especially with the amount of test you are running. Just wait for the armidex to come. I don't think any problems will arise running test at 250 mg a week.. but if they do just add in the adex at .5 mg EOD.

HCGenerate is the best OTC product to run during cycle to keep your balls active. Using other test boosting products may have similar results.. but from my experience HCGenerate is superior. Test Freak and Anabolic Freak are an excellent stack for test support though, I have a friend bridging with those products at the moment and he says he loves them. I wouldn't use them on cycle though, would use in PCT or as a bridge only. I would start taking HCGenerate, or the product you choose around week 7 of your cycle and run it until the end.

As far as your PCT, you should add an AI and some other natural test boosters to clomid. Forma Stanzol is a great option for an AI during PCT. Then add in which ever test boosters you want. Also a really good addition to PCT is the SARM MK-2866. This will help you keep your gains while not suppressing any of your hormone levels.

PCT:
1-4 CLOMID 25/25/25/25
1-4 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
1-4 Natty-Test Booster
1-4 MK-2866 25 mg per day

 

[dvoted]

I think ull make better gains of doing 500mg for 10 weeks than 250mg for 20. Plus itll be easier to recover.

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[imouttie24]

Im waiting for my ai to come in then I think I'm going to up it to 375 a week spilt in two shots a week..Monday was the fourth pinn and the ais will be here the frist...I still have 8 ml left in this bottle and have a whole another bottle so after running that for a while might knock it up to 400 or 500 then work my way back down..the hcgenerate is almost here and I'm getting some testo fx load to take along with Clomid and I'm going to try and find some forma

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[imouttie24]

you do not want to run letro as an AI.. it is far to strong and will absolutely deplete your estro levels, especially with the amount of test you are running. Just wait for the armidex to come. I don't think any problems will arise running test at 250 mg a week.. but if they do just add in the adex at .5 mg EOD.

HCGenerate is the best OTC product to run during cycle to keep your balls active. Using other test boosting products may have similar results.. but from my experience HCGenerate is superior. Test Freak and Anabolic Freak are an excellent stack for test support though, I have a friend bridging with those products at the moment and he says he loves them. I wouldn't use them on cycle though, would use in PCT or as a bridge only. I would start taking HCGenerate, or the product you choose around week 7 of your cycle and run it until the end.

As far as your PCT, you should add an AI and some other natural test boosters to clomid. Forma Stanzol is a great option for an AI during PCT. Then add in which ever test boosters you want. Also a really good addition to PCT is the SARM MK-2866. This will help you keep your gains while not suppressing any of your hormone levels.

PCT:
1-4 CLOMID 25/25/25/25
1-4 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
1-4 Natty-Test Booster
1-4 MK-2866 25 mg per day

What ai should I add to the pct? Should I go with adex?

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[NegroPops]

I would personally go with Forma Stanzol.. you can get that from mrsupps.com. Adex would work as well but forma is the better option.

 

[imouttie24]

I would personally go with Forma Stanzol.. you can get that from mrsupps.com. Adex would work as well but forma is the better option.

K thinks...would it be better to take a test booster I haven't tired or better to do one that already worked for me? I tried the testo fx load and it gave me weight gain and strength gaine I gained like ten pounds or more.but I did have extra amount of water weight on me and at moments would kind of flip out or snap back on someone..I hear test freaks is some great stuff but a person said it makes your arms pits and sweat smell bad but great gains..so idk..that was the only thing band said about that one..the test freak would be easier to get

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[NegroPops]

For pct, i personally use the unleashed/post cycle combo from needtobuildmuscle. I use it for the same reasoning you have.. i have used it previously and have had great results. If testo fx has worked for you, go ahead and use it.. who am i to say what product is best for you? I haven't looked and seen what is in it, but usually natty test boosters are all based on the same core of ingredients. One great thing for test boosting is D-AA at 3 grams per day. If test fx doens't already of that in it, I would make sure to pick some of it up. I know that the the test phreak and anabolic phreak stack has D-AA in it.

 

[imouttie24]

For pct, i personally use the unleashed/post cycle combo from needtobuildmuscle. I use it for the same reasoning you have.. i have used it previously and have had great results. If testo fx has worked for you, go ahead and use it.. who am i to say what product is best for you? I haven't looked and seen what is in it, but usually natty test boosters are all based on the same core of ingredients. One great thing for test boosting is D-AA at 3 grams per day. If test fx doens't already of that in it, I would make sure to pick some of it up. I know that the the test phreak and anabolic phreak stack has D-AA in it.

Hey thanks for the advice! Have to say you have been very helpful! I'm going to go ahead and give test phreak a try just to make sure I'm geting the D-aa..ok so ai is going to be adrimx already had it orderd but should I order some forma for my pct also?,I already will have hcgenerte ,Clomid and test pheark

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[NegroPops]

the tesk phreak itself doesn't have d-aa in it, a product called anabolic phreak, which is recommended to stack with test phreak has the d-aa. you could also buy d-aa by itself.. it is fairly cheap. you will want to run an ai during pct. either armidex or forma would work.. i would personally switch to forma during pct because it has many functions besides stopping estrogen.

 

[imouttie24]

the tesk phreak itself doesn't have d-aa in it, a product called anabolic phreak, which is recommended to stack with test phreak has the d-aa. you could also buy d-aa by itself.. it is fairly cheap. you will want to run an ai during pct. either armidex or forma would work.. i would personally switch to forma during pct because it has many functions besides stopping estrogen.

Ok thanks..where can I get the D.aa and where could I get some forma that's not liquid..that ag guys is all liquid..also what's your thoughts on MK-2866? And can you do me one last favor and break down the pct cycle ..when to start the hcgenerate and test phfreak..the clomid I start taking after last pinn right..well I get my ai which is adrimx next Saturday and this Monday will be finishing my third week heading in to my fourth..I feel like I can work out harder but I get more broke down from my work outs..my legs are where I see the biggest differents I do legs the day after ever pinn so twice a week..seems like I use to get more random hard ons when I wasn't cycling tho..I work in a gym and I see bad girls all day long and I don't have the same urges I did it feels like but when I'm in bed with one I'm all good..Idk I guess I always thought when u cycle it turns u to a beast and a horn dog haha..I don't feel much different just starting to cut up better..so I guess its a good thing..is it werid I kind of want the beast feeling and the horn dog feeling..lol

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[NegroPops]

you can get the d-aa at gnc or another health store, or you could order it online at mrsupps or needtobuildmuscle. the only forma you can get is the liquid transdermal from mrsupps. it is a lotion that you apply to your skin. MK-2866 is great, especially in PCT. It will really help you keep your gains without suppressing you when you're trying to recover. you can run this in pct, and a bridge with it after the cycle. Test e takes around 2 weeks to clear your system, so that is when you will want to start the clomid. The sooner you start taking the HCGenerate the better. It may get a little expensive running it for 4 months but it will be worth it when it comes time to recover. Also adding in few HCG blasts before PCT is a great idea.. but with the lower dose of test you are running the HCGenerate should be fine. The test phreak you will want to start when you start the clomid.

It should look like this:

1-20 Test E 250 mg per week
1-20 adex .5 mg EoD

PCT:
23-26 Clomid 25/25/25/25
23-26 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps, twice per day
23-26 Test Phreak
23-26 D-AA 3 grams per day
23-26 MK-2866 between 12.5 mg - 25 mg per day

one thing i've noticed, that when ever i am on.. i am a lot more sexually aggressive and cocky. i will walk up to a girl and tell her straight up that were fuckin tonight.

 

[imouttie24]

Hell yeah thanks man..see I want some of that cuz I feel like I was more like that before I started..I need to start those ai.s..you don't think she. I get those ai I should bump it up to 375 a week and run a shorter cycle or stay what I'm doing and just start the ai.s

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[NegroPops]

I think bumping the dose and shortening the cycle to 10-12 weeks would be more beneficial then running the dose you are now for 20 weeks.

 

[imouttie24]

I think bumping the dose and shortening the cycle to 10-12 weeks would be more beneficial then running the dose you are now for 20 weeks.

Well tomorrow will be the six pinn and I do two a week..half a cc each..I have a whole other 10ml bottle I was wanting to do also so it would be about 14 week cycle if I bump it up to 375mg a week..sounds better? I strated my hcgen yesterday

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[ledhead]

20 week cycles are worthless. Myostatin raises at week 8 on any cycle and then the cycle stalls out between weeks 8-10 and does not pick up again until week 20. Running a 20 weeks cycle you would gain absolutely nothing from weeks 10-20 and then gains would resume at week 20. The moral of the story. Either run 8-10 week cycles or just stay on...

 

[dvoted]

20 week cycles are worthless. Myostatin raises at week 8 on any cycle and then the cycle stalls out between weeks 8-10 and does not pick up again until week 20. Running a 20 weeks cycle you would gain absolutely nothing from weeks 10-20 and then gains would resume at week 20. The moral of the story. Either run 8-10 week cycles or just stay on...

if this being true. What if they increased the dosage after week 10.

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[ledhead]

if this being true. What if they increased the dosage after week 10.

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Read this article..

Measurement of myostatin concentrations in human serum:
Circulating concentrations in young and older men and effects
of testosterone administration.

The link is not working, so google the article.

 

[goin on 4T]

20 week cycles are worthless. Myostatin raises at week 8 on any cycle and then the cycle stalls out between weeks 8-10 and does not pick up again until week 20. Running a 20 weeks cycle you would gain absolutely nothing from weeks 10-20 and then gains would resume at week 20. The moral of the story. Either run 8-10 week cycles or just stay on...

That is very interesting.
So does the myostatin cycle?
So after 30 weeks does it fall again?

 

[ledhead]

That is very interesting.
So does the myostatin cycle?
So after 30 weeks does it fall again?

I think so, bro. But I think the moral of the story is to do 8-10 week cycles or just stay on. But I do believe the cycle does stall again at week 30..

 

[goin on 4T]

Yeah I am on hrt and have been on for 7 years.