1st time to juice&wrkout

[justwannagetsum]

My friend has never worked out before or juiced. I know im gonna get flamed here but hes doing it anyways. Just want some opinions. I am reall interested as to what kind of gains hes gonna get. Hes 5'10" and #140 here is the cycle. We only have dbol, but should have test next week. Hes itchy so he is starting now with just dbol.
30 mg dbol ED week1-5
200 mgs test week 2-12
15 units liquidex EOD
I will update results. We only have test and dbol, so plz dont suggest anything else. We also have fina, but I think we should hold off since he is a true beginner.
JWGS

 

[The Almighty]

I think you should shoot your freidn in the back then steal the gear he has. If he has never worked out before you will be doing him a favor.

 

[genarr3]

The guys first time in a gym and he's starting gear already? Extreme stupidity. Good luck.

 

[nautica]

If you (I mean your friend) has never worked out. What makes him think he needs the juice. If he has never worked out he should get very good gains without it.

If he started juicing and working out at the same time he will essentially be wasting his first cycle.

Nautica

 

[Kahn]

Tell him you were tight,he should have waited for the test. Good to see someone starting off at 200 instead of 1000. Tell him to eat a lot of protein and keep his calories up. Tell him to shoot for (6) 500 calorie meals. I'd try for 300 grams of protein.

 

[The Almighty]

If you (I mean your friend)

Hehe, exactly what I was thinking.

 

[justwannagetsum]

If you (I mean your friend) has never worked out. What makes him think he needs the juice

Sorry, not me, my friend, My 4th cycle
Jwgs

 

[Zyglamail]

In my opinion, if the training and diet is even semi decent your gains the first year will rival that of taking AAS anyways. Get him eating and training right before jumping on the juice, especially dbol only.

 

[nautica]

If you (I mean your friend) has never worked out. What makes him think he needs the juice

Sorry, not me, my friend, My 4th cycle
Jwgs

If it is your friend and not you, then the best thing you can do for him is do get him on the boards to educate himself before throwing away money.

Nautica

 

[Kahn]

Does he know about you and the juice?

 

[Maxx Out]

Love to see what happens! All that strength so soon with no lifting experience, he'll probably pop a pec or quad! Bad choice!

Maxx >>>>>

 

[nautica]

Love to see what happens! All that strength so soon with no lifting experience, he'll probably pop a pec or quad! Bad choice!

Maxx >>>>>

No doubt. Something will be torn. Hell it took me years to figure out how to workout.

Nautica

 

[Watson]

idiot

This guy has never lifted a weight in his life? He should at least get to 180 pounds or more naturally before even thinking about steroids. One thing is for sure, he'll regret it later.

 

[BigAndy69]

Your friend is a moron. He needs to learn how to train before even considering AS.

After 1-1.5 years worth of training he can start using specialty supplements like Creatine, Ephedrine and then Clenbuterol.

Obviously your friend doesn't really care about BBing and just wants to get big fast.

I can guarantee that he'll lose at least 75 % of his gains when he comes off since he doesn't know how to train or eat.

 

[cure]

If it is your friend and not you, then the best thing you can do for him is do get him on the boards to educate himself before throwing away money.

Nautica

Fuck getting him on the boards.

justwannagetsum if you've done cycles before and know about nutrition and training you would teach him what you know. That is a true friend. But if all you do is tell this guy "Oh ya my pumps were incredible and i gained 20 lbs in 8 weeks" then for sure he's gonna wanna juice. Man i blame this all on you because before i started to work out i never knew anything about nutrition, rest and training properly, let alone about dbol and test.

 

[serge]

wow, this one is a winner, he does not know how to lift, which excersise works what, does not know how to eat, but is willing to take AS.............

Steroids are not a magical pills/oils that will give you a body you want, you still have to put in the work. why dont you just give him some sugar pills and steril oil and tell him thats dboll and test, tell him to eat everything in sight and train like an animal, he will gain those 20lb natually and you can keep his gear

 

[justwannagetsum]

justwannagetsum if you've done cycles before and know about nutrition and training you would teach him what you know. That is a true friend. But if all you do is tell this guy "Oh ya my pumps were incredible and i gained 20 lbs in 8 weeks" then for sure he's gonna wanna juice. Man i blame this all on you because before i started to work out i never knew anything about nutrition, rest and training properly, let alone about dbol and test.

Good point. I guess this is why I put this post up on the board. Also the tearing and what not is another factor I havn't considered. Ill talk him into getting in a routine naturally for a while before looking at AS. Thanks for all of your replies. Talk about controversy............

 

[nautica]

Good point. I guess this is why I put this post up on the board. Also the tearing and what not is another factor I havn't considered. Ill talk him into getting in a routine naturally for a while before looking at AS. Thanks for all of your replies. Talk about controversy............ [/B][/QUOTE]


Good Idea

 

[genarr3]

Kill him.

 

[chronicx357]

not saying that its the right thing to do becuase we all know it isnt, but shouldnt he make great gains if he never worked out before. he would be completely shocking his muscles.

 

[milkbone]

Sounds like a bad idea. He should really train naturally for a couple of years to reach his natural potential. During this time, he should be working on eating correctly and learning what routines / excercises work best for his body. I think he will surely regret it when his muscle strength surpasses his tendon strength. Do him a favor and tell him all of the pitfalls he's likely to come across by doing things this way. Also, stear him away from all of the BS supplements on the market while he is still training naturally like PHs and other snakeoil crap that doesn't work. Hell, I gained 50 pounds naturally in my first 1.5 years. Not to mention he may lose interest in this idea of working out since this is the time of year everyone comes out of the woodwork to win the Mr. O. Good luck to him.

 

[justwannagetsum]

Kill him.

Excuse me?????