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my 1st cycle pretty basic but its what i'm gona do

11 week cycle
300 mg deca weekly
250 mg primo weekly
250 mg sustanon 250 weekly

Somebackground info about me I'm 19, i've been lifting intensly since i was 15. I'm 5'10" only 175 lbs right now because its my football season so i can't lift/ gain mass easily.

Any input is appreciated i've had some suggestions already, to do
Weeks 1-10 Deca@300mg weekly
Weeks 1-10 Cyp or Enanth at 350-500mg weekly
Week 11 Cyp or Enanth at 175-250mg at start of week.
Weeks 13-15 Clomid time.

i was gona try and stay away from alot of test for the 1st time, (Besides sust ofcourse) But i've heard that my chances of getting legit primo is very slim, so now i really dont know what to do, What would take place of primo in that 1st cycle?
 
For a first cycle I would stick with 2 compounds.....400 mg each of test and EQ for 10 weeks would be good.....
 
Take out the primo and do the Sus or any kind of test for 500mg per week.
Primo is not right for that cycle and also too expensive.
 
Whats up bro..cycle looks good if u want to run it that way, and its definately good to see ur using moderation considering its ur first..i definately agree with gilly tho in using sust/eq, as i think its probably the best beginner cycle..as for the dose 250 will be fine..i'm 3 weeks into a sust only cycle and i am already up 10 pounds...but if u want people to better help u, tell us ur goals and what ur looking to gain off the cycle..

rip
 
i'm trying to gain mostly strength, but mass too. I'd say 70% strength 30% mass. My main goal is to hit 200 lbs and stay under 11% body fat. I dont really care about being "ripped" i just want to get strong as fuck, isn't everyone lol

No but seriously i wana hit that 200 lb mark
 
Realgains said:



I would have to agree but if you insist then just do test alone.

RG:)
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I agree with that, definately dont stack deca and EQ alone either. If you really wanted to go with two compounds(which I dont condone) then try something like test/deca(mass) or test/eq (lean)...but the compounds dont make the real difference. Its your diet/training/lifestyle that determines what kind of results you achieve. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
I think i'm gona do
250 Mg Sust 250
250 Mg EQ
for 11 weeks, are these dosages high enough to defnintely bring growth plate closure?
 
No single steroid cycles!!

Whatever you do PLEASE DO NOT USE SINGLE DRUG CYCLES!!!

Single drug cycles will screw you up; your receptors will adapt to it in weeks and you will have to keep increasing it to maintain ANY effect.

The safest and most effective way is to shotgun your drug cycle, mixing different steriods into the cycle (but the same amount) to slow adaption.

Example of a crap cycle:

W1 Lonavar 20mg
W2 Lonavar 15mg
W3 Lonavar 10mg 1ml Deca
W4 No orals 1ml Deca

This cycle is too mild and the lack of androgenics will mean even a LOSS in size.

Recommend starting

W1 Lonavar 35mg/day, Sustanon 1000mg/week
W2 Lonavar 35mg/'' '', Sustanon 750mg/week
W3 Lonavar 17.5mg/day , Sustanon 500mg/week
W4 Lonavar 17.5mg/day , Deca 200 mg/week
W5 No orals, Deca 200mg/week
W6 No orals, Deca 200mg/week
W7 No orals, Deca 150mg/week
W8 No orals, Testoviron 200mg/week
W9 No orals, Testoviron 150mg/week
W10 No orals, Testoviron 100mg/week

This is a fairly mild cycle. The Testoviron at the end of the cycle boost testes and will increase natural testosterone production.
You need it to "withdrawl" cycle without loss.

Great cycle but kind of expensive BUT will get results:

W1 1 Proviron, 3 Primbolan, 1ml Deca, 1ml Sustanon, 1ml Boldenone
W2 1 Proviron, 3 Primbolan, 1ml Deca, 1ml Sustanon, 1ml Boldenone
W3 1 Proviron, 3 Primbolan, 1.5ml Deca, 1ml Sustanon, 1ml Boldenone
W4 1 Proviron, 3 Primbolan, 1.5ml Deca, 1ml Sustanon, 1.5ml Boldenone
W5 1 Proviron, 3 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2 Sustanon, 1.5ml Boldenone
W6 1.5 Proviron, 4 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2ml Sustanon, 1.5ml Boldenone
W7 1.5 Proviron, 4 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2ml Sustanon, 2ml Boldenone
W8 2 Proviron, 4 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2ml Sustanon, 2ml Boldenone
W9 2 Proviron, 4 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2ml Sustanon, 2ml Boldenone
W10 2 Proviron, 4 Primbolan, 2ml Deca, 2ml Sustanon, 2ml Boldenone.

Since Boldenone is a veterinary drug, if you find it hard to get substitute it with Testoviron.
Again Testoviron is great for your teste as it will encourage natural test production and will limit the "withdrawl" loss.

Deca is a MUST as it helps with joint pains from training and water retention and you WILL get alot of retention with this stack.
 
ok since this is my 1st cycle i dont really know what will work best, but Happyastro i think what ur saying is important. Maybe i should do Deca, Sust, and Equipose. Do you think you could put these together in an 11 week cycle mixing it up the way that Happastro did?
 
Sure can.

Yes those are good suggestions; just mix it up in a similar way to what I did above; always keep in mind that the total is the same as you would if you take one drug.
Remember to finish off with a teste stimulant in the last 4 weeks or so; to get your balls making test again; this way you preserve most if not all of your gains and prevent the "limp dick" effect or gyno.

Goodluck

keep us posted
 
when i said can you set it up i literally ment you, lol. I really wouldn't know what steroids would be most beneficial at what times and at what dosages
 
The Terminator said:
Please do not listen to Happyastro, Testoviron will NOT make your testes start producing test again, it does just the opposite. I think his advice needs to be disregarded...
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Jesus I missed this. Happy where the hell do you get your info. from? Oh yeah I forgot. You and your buddies. :rolleyes:

Damn man you're killing me over here. You're trying to sound scientific and it's making no sense whatsoever.
 
Re: It worked for me.

Happyastro said:
It worked for me and ALOT of people so maybe it is just you............
Try it yourself and see.
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With the introduction on exogenous testosterone (Testoviron) that will have a negative impact on your bodies ability to produce its own natural test. When you are taking in exogenous test you cannot consider that as off time, clomid and nolvadex regimen is a MUCH better alternative.
 
Re: Re: It worked for me.

The Terminator said:


With the introduction on exogenous testosterone (Testoviron) that will have a negative impact on your bodies ability to produce its own natural test. When you are taking in exogenous test you cannot consider that as off time, clomid and nolvadex regimen is a MUCH better alternative.
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Well said bro. See Happy these are the "buddies" you should be hanging out with.
 
Each to their own.

I just stated my opinion from the effects I observed on myself and training partners.
If it differs from your own so be it.
Insulting me or whatever makes no difference to me nor does it provide for proper discussion which this board is for.
 
Yes it makes sense.

It does make sense that clomid and nolvadex regimen is a possible alternative; I may try it next to see its effects.
 
Testoviron (test enanthate) will surpress natural test production, NOT encourage it. HCG at the end of your cycle will slam your berries back into production. HCG is a naturally occuring compound found in pregnant women. The HCG level is what detemines whether a woman is pregnant or not.
 
Dude this post is from year 2002 what is this about sending a reply now...the kid at this point might have more than a year under HRT caused for this first cycle.
 
this is my first cycle as well . my friend has been doing this for some time now and he suggest for me for the first time go with 10wks of clenbuterol and cipionate and then jump into a 10 week cycle of test 400, cipionate, clenbuterol, deca 300 and anavar . is this an effective way to start ? my goal's ... i am 5'9 185 but i just spent 8 months in a wheel chair and lost about 30 lbs and all my cuts and it isn't easy getting that back when i can still barely walk. so i was looking for some help please ?
 
Re: No single steroid cycles!!

hey i was reading your cycle details you gave distortion.im in the same boat as him.i wanna do a cycle but dont know what to do.ive never done one and it seems like 1000ml of sus is alot to jsut start up,maybe it just sounds like that to me..i dont wanna have a heart attack..hahaha.
how many times a week and how much of the sus would i inject to equal the 1000 ml you suggest?
could i use winstrol instead of lonavar fo the oral pills?plz write me back with details!!thanx
 
Re: No single steroid cycles!!

iceman16 said:
hey i was reading your cycle details you gave distortion.im in the same boat as him.i wanna do a cycle but dont know what to do.ive never done one and it seems like 1000ml of sus is alot to jsut start up,maybe it just sounds like that to me..i dont wanna have a heart attack..hahaha.
how many times a week and how much of the sus would i inject to equal the 1000 ml you suggest?
could i use winstrol instead of lonavar fo the oral pills?plz write me back with details!!thanx
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WTF?!?!?!
 
Hi i'm new to the bodybuilding world and was wanting to start my first cycle of gear and was wondering what would be best for a first timer looking to get big and strong a little quicker, I've been lifting for about three years and i'm not getting the gains i'm wanting, could some one give me some recomendations, i've have buddies at the gym that are taking Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and winnie, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - $125.00 and winnie 250.00 is this good? Also what is a good cycle period and doses thanks Mason.
 
dude - no price discussion... EDit your post or you will get flamed...

Get some test for your first cycle.. get your own thread if you want help.
 
mason1983 said:
Hi i'm new to the bodybuilding world and was wanting to start my first cycle of gear and was wondering what would be best for a first timer looking to get big and strong a little quicker, I've been lifting for about three years and i'm not getting the gains i'm wanting, could some one give me some recomendations, i've have buddies at the gym that are taking Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and winnie, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
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mason1983 said:
mason1983 said:
Hi i'm new to the bodybuilding world and was wanting to start my first cycle of gear and was wondering what would be best for a first timer looking to get big and strong a little quicker, I've been lifting for about three years and i'm not getting the gains i'm wanting, could some one give me some recomendations, i've have buddies at the gym that are taking Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and winnie, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
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HI, I'm new into the "WORLD", and a few of my "chums" were thinking of doing some hard core AS,however we no nothing about them and would like total strangers to lead us into the Dark world of the Underground> Please tell us.... sources,prices, and the most fashionable way to inj these into our bodies ! P.S, were still teenagers and want to get an early start on our growth and help our bodies with Test production for the future!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anybody want to be our MENTOR ?
WTH is going on around here ! It's like a flashback to the Waltons 2000 baby !
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