1st cycle want opinoins!!! plz

[m.c. Hesh]

i am about ready to order my 1st cycle but not 100% sure on wat to get and for how long i was think a cutting cycle so basically wat i am wanting to order would b primobol, and winny..

primobol at 300mg/week-10 weeks
winny at 25mg/ed-4 weeks(tabs so 5 tabs ed)

that was wat i was thinking is there ne pct? i should get or should i b ok?
also ne suggestions on other stuff i should take instead bc i was thinking anvar instead of primobol but then i would have to get sum Clomid or Nolvadex prob u no so no bitch tits here
suggestions plz
Hesh

 

[Outtlaw]

Id do 50mg of the winny and 400mg of the primo. And yes I'd run pct.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

LOL no test for your first cycle???

HUGE MISTAKE.

 

[bca21]

^^^your telling me bro, id run test regardless

 

[m.c. Hesh]

kk cool i was just looking for a good simple cutting cycle... but yea test sounds great ne suggestions? also wit the pct i didnt think it was neccessary for winny or primo unless u mean sumtin to let my test take bak over? i dunno ne addvice would b swell... lol swell.
yea advice would b great remember im still a newby so dont b to hard on me
Hesh

 

[jdvega64]

Var is great for a first timmer; expensive, but good. Winny too for than matter. Just keep it simple bro and see how you react. Start small, then up the dose if you don't feel it working. Keep the pct shit on hand just in case; you never know, you may be one of the lucky ones like myself that never gets "shut down".

 

[tiggerizme]

How about posting some stats. AGe lifting history nutrition routine. But yes I agree with a Test only first time cycle.

Not mandatory by any means but definitely recommended.

 

[interleukin 1]

I agree with most of the other fellas. Probably should just to a T ester the first time out. If you are looking to get "cut", then you may want to examine your diet. Are you doing any cardio? (I know that is kind of a bad word around here so I ask it quitely)

 

[AhMadKooL]

run the following cycle:

week 1 - 12 Test 400-500 mg/week

PCT: Nolva, clomid and HCG

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Test E 500mg a week 1-10

Winny 50mg a day, week 5-11

proviron 25mg a day, week 1-14

and do not forget pct


This will help you get hard and ripped and ad some good lean mass.

 

[m.c. Hesh]

nice nice...
um i do a hlaf hour of cardio in the morning 1st thing empty stomach...
eat 5-6 small protien meals tuna, chicken that sorta thing. good diet pretty strict
been lifting for like 5 years.. age 24 200 lbs 10%bf
um would i need all the pct or just one of the types?

 

[m.c. Hesh]

also with the test e i c that it is measured in amps and im gunne look like an uber noob for asking but how r amps compared to ml? so i can no how much to order. also wat kinda advantage does proviron give? bc i was looking at primobol and that is for like getting cut or so ive read..and does winny burn the joints like shit bc i dunno how well ill b able to function like that and dont want to waste my money on sumptin im gunna stop takeing 1/2 way through

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Doing a cutting only cycle for your FIRST cycle is analagous to losing your virginity to Jenna Jameson and only asking for a handjob!


For your FIRST CYCLE you want to take FULL advantage of those virgin receptors and do a very well planned out cycle with a good long test base, somewhat androgen heavy (which is a misnomer because androgen heavy will always assume anabolic)
nice high quality PCT's

Something like Sust 250's with Dianabol and Maybe some Winny, Nolva during the whole cycle (Nolva has a bvery synergystic effect and increases anabolism) coming off onto HCG and maybe clomid. To increase receptor competition throwing in anavar if you can get a hold of it is always a big help.

Thats a very rough example.. but you get the idea.


Bro dont dick around with your first cycle.. it will give you your best gains and you really want to take advantage of it.