1st cycle. need help

[klink34]

OK do this is my first cycle. honestly I'm a little afraid to post, because I've seen some people flame a lot, but here we go. I'm 29 at 220. about 16 bf.
I've got access to test e, deca, tren a, dbol, anavar.
I plan on bulking put on around 25 maybe 30 anywhere between there I'll be happy. I'm also looking for a good strength gain.

my cycle plan is this:
test e 1-10: 500mg/w 250 twice a week
dbol 1-4: 40 ed
tren a 1-10: 50 mg eod

I've got hcg and nolva. run hcg for ten days straight at end of cycle and nolva at 40mg ed for 2 weeks then 20 mgs ed for 2 weeks. so there you go. any suggestions? lol be easy on me. I've been dying to do a cycle forever but I want to do it right!

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Drop the tren for your first go, test and dbol will be more than enough to obtain your goals and is a good first cycle.

 

[klink34]

I've seen that quite a bit. why shouldn't you do tren on your first cycle? I was told to do tren but cut down my test per week.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

You really should keep it test only but that's just my opinion. You've never cycled so you want to see how your body responds to the #1 used steroid and usually the base of most cycles, TEST! Once you see how your body reacts to that, whether it be good or bad, you could expect certain things during your second go when you add another compound. So if everything went smooth with test only and then you add dbol and uh oh something goes wrong well then you know it's probably the dbol causing it. If you start with 3 compounds, which is ill advised for a first cycle and your body starts going crazy, which let me tell you it will, then you'll either say, "fuck what was I thinking?" and get scared off and drop everything, or you'll say, "hey I could deal with this it's not as bad as they all say." But then when you get to your PCT since it was your first cycle and you shocked your body with 3 different compounds you'll have a much harder time recovering, and since you don't know what you did your first PCT with test only and what worked or didn't work you're just playing a guessing game crossing your fingers and hoping your balls return.

 

[klink34]

sounds good, I'll keep it on the side and hold off. I'm actually kind of sad about it but I'll live. I just know that in the end I'll be in Florida and I thought the tren would help cut me down a little bit. I didn't want to look too fat/bloated. I was going to do test and deca but the sides with deca, mainly deca dick ran me off. I will stick with the test and dbol. simple enough. so my dosages look good though. Thanks for the quick response. I've heard a lot of good things about tren. it's going to be starring at me the whole time telling me to use it. lol.

 

[klink34]

by the way what should I expect to gain off this test and dbol. 25-30 good? if I can hit higher that would be awesome, but what is realistic? my goal is to hit around 18 calories per pound with macros being about 60/40/40

 

[Mr. Chicago]

All depends on your diet, just going to have to get on and see how things go, it's hard to throw numbers out there like that, but 30 lbs at already 16%BF, you do understand that weight isn't going to be close to all muscle right? Also I'm confused, you say you want to gain 30+ lbs and "cut down a little." Tren is powerful but it's not a miracle drug, not going to get up to 250 and lose BF with that either. Just eat big, eat clean, and train like a maniac, test and a lil dbol kicker will get you wherever you want to go.

 

[Mr. Chicago]

Yeah doses are fine but run the test 12-14 weeks, definitely not only 10.

 

[klink34]

much appreciated

 

[klink34]

One last thing and my newb as will go pin itself. which one would be better. test and deca. or test and dbol