1st Cycle help

[BuckyElite]

OK after a couple weeks of research I think I have a good idea of what I want to take. My stats I'm 29 5'8"-167 lbs.. I'm thinking of a test-prop tren cycle..starting at 50mg of test and 100mg of tren.. Would that be to low for the test to properly supplement the tren? I was thinking of doing test for wks 1-5 and tren wks 2-7 and follow up with nolva wks 5-10 as well as a pct. But from what I've read I should probably take test throughout the tren cycle.. what are your thoughts? Thanks in advanced.

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[EZ_E]

Absolute disaster.

How long have you been training?
What's your bodyfat?

 

[BuckyElite]

For 10 years bf is right around 10% mostly at the stomach. Never thought about using before but started researching once I got a source.. I trained long distance running for about 8 years and have been concentrating on weight training for the last 2. I train 4 on 1 off about 1hour 30 minutes maybe 2 hours depending.

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[RickRock13]

If this is your first cycle, don't go anywhere near Tren. Test only is all you need for a good first cycle. Tren is for advanced users only.

A Nolva only PCT is not going to work either. Here is a good PCT for you

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)

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[BuckyElite]

Would the 50mg every other or every 3rd day be fine? Then start the clomid 2 weeks before the end if the cycle?

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[RickRock13]

Would the 50mg every other or every 3rd day be fine? Then start the clomid 2 weeks before the end if the cycle?

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Tren at any dose shouldn't even be considered right now

 

[BuckyElite]

I mean of the test-p

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[Shrine1]

If you go prop you will pin EOD. 100-150mg of prop.. Some people get pip from prop but its not really a issue personally

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[burnthiscorpse]

I mean of the test-p

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You might want to look into how to run a real PCT. One that will actually work. With things that will actually help you recover.

 

[Essie]

If you want to start using, then I suppose you are entitled to it. First cycle ... always Test only. Prop is fine ... a lot of people love it to bits and with VERY good reason ... it is in quickly, gets into your blood quickly, gets to work quickly, delivers results quickly and is our of your system quickly once your cycle is over. However, a lot of people also hate it ... including me ... also with good reason. Some people (like me) react horribly to the Prop ester ... it causes agonizing Post Injection Pain ... leaves me limping for days on end feeling like a mule on gear kicked the shit outta my muscle ... gives me Testosterone Flu ... sweats etc. I would suggest one of the softer esters for a first cycle like Test Cyp or Test Enan. Pin it at 300mg/wk (150mg Mon and again 150mg on Thu) for 12 weeks. Do this, eat right, train hard and sleep enough and you will grow, guaranteed. Just be sure to have Aromasin on hand in case you turn out to be gyno prone (man growing breast tissue a.k.a bitch tits) on Test. For PCT ... follow Rick's advice.