1st Cycle Confusion

[Jonlb21]

Ok every one I need 1st cycle advice. Before someone says check the previous threads, I have. Everyone keeps advising different stacks so I haven’t gotten a universal answer. I’m 26 been lifting for 3 years and I’m currently at 14% bf. Was at 12% but I had a shoulder injury that kept me out of the gym for a little while. I have been taking lots of fish oil and ostarine to help recover.

Anyway to my 1st cycle. I’ve heard people say that I should cut more before doing my 1st cycle. So would a 50-100mg of anavar, with kanatadrol, and Clen be a good cutting stack ? I’ve also heard people say not to do that first cycle, because your first cycle you gain the most of and it should be a test cycle.

Test E 200mg twice a week for 10 weeks
1-8 anavar 60-100 mg day
1-8 n2guard
1-8 HCGenerate ES


PCT 9-12

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com ( hopefully tablets)
Phytoserms n2bm.com (I don’t know if I need this one)
HCGenerate n2bm.com
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com ( Prefer tablets)
n2guard n2bm.com

and what about Unleashed post cycle ?

I’ve hard you don’t need clomid or nova if you take unleased.

Is unleased better than Phytoserms 347 ?


OPTIONAL

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[Bigpapazand]

You need to make sure you are on a proper diet and cardio. Test alone boosts your metabolic rate so you might not even need to use Anavar and clen if you are only trying to get down from 14% bf

 

[Jbranken]

So you want to cut with steroids before you run a cycle of steroids? Now I'm confused

How about this. It's a crazy idea but bare with me... Use Diet and cardio to get your weight down a little more, then run your cycle

Pick clomid or nolva, one is fine. Use it with the unleashed, n2guard, DAA and forma stanzol. Use aromasin on cycle with hcgenerate and n2guard. 6 weeks of anavar at 60-80mg is fine. That's how I'd run it anyway but your layout above is good too

 

[Jonlb21]

So you dont think I should run an anavar, clen, kantadrol stack to cut before doing a test cycle ?

 

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Whats your
Height
Weight

 

[Bigpapazand]

No I don't think you should.. If you want to get a little leaner then you don't need those compounds. just clean up your diet and do some cardio. 14% is a fine bf to cycle on if you're not preparing for a show or anything

 

[Jonlb21]

I'm 5'8" 180 lbs

 

[Jonlb21]

Ok so Test E 400mgs a week for 10 weeks
anavar week 1-8
N2 Gurad 1-8
HCG 1-8

PCT

PCT 9-12

clomid
Phytoserms
HCGenerate
aromasin
n2guard
unleased
rs tranderm
clen

So advice on dosage and any tweeks with what weeks to take them ? Also anything I have listed that is overkill or not needed ?

 

[Jonlb21]

For instance I dont know if I should take Phytoserms 347. And people have said HCG or Unleased I didn't know if I was supposed to do both at the same time. Also I've heard mixed things about RS Tranderm. Just dont know if its overkill or not

 

[Bigpapazand]

Ok so Test E 400mgs a week for 10 weeks
anavar week 1-8
N2 Gurad 1-8
HCG 1-8

PCT

PCT 9-12

clomid
Phytoserms
HCGenerate
aromasin
n2guard
unleased
rs tranderm
clen

So advice on dosage and any tweeks with what weeks to take them ? Also anything I have listed that is overkill or not needed ?

You do not need clen in your pct. what are the dosages of clomid and var? N2 guard is only necessary when running Anavar and possibly if you decide to run clen (not in pct!!) which I don't suggest. and I think you should use nolva and not just clomid alone but that is just personal preference.