17 - looking for some info on how to get bigger faster (thought i'd ask the biggest)

[eldiablo]

I'm 17, looking to bulk up. I've been lifting for a while, but have never gotten into it like I have desired to lately. Summer is here and I really have the head to get in the game now. I figured the best people to ask about getting big would be the biggest - you guys. If anyone can point me in the right direction to some routines that will help me accomplish my objectives, I would really appreciate it.

Goals: Considerably bulk up (in order of importance) fore arms, upper arm, rest of torso, and of course overall structure (legs etc). I'm very dissatisfied with my forearms.

If powerlifting isn't the best place for this post, please let me know.

Thanks!
Zach

 

[p03t1c]

check out http://www.elitefts.com. read all the articles there. welcome to the game.

 

[eldiablo]

Thanks for the reply.. looks like there is a lot of good stuff there - i'll read it more in depth tonight. Do you know of somewhere that will explain some of the terminology used on the particular lifts?

Thanks

 

[endpoint]

dont forget your eating get enough protein and calories.

if you want the exercise descriptions they are in the "exercise index" on the q and a section(also called ask dave) of the site that p03t1c linked

other wise just ask here and every one will help

 

[Cubanito17]

Hey man don't worry about the fact that your 17, SO AM I. If your looking to bulk up you can take some advice from endpoint which he gave me a while ago and eat. In 4 months I've gone from 160lbs@ 8%BF to now weighing 196lbs@11%BF. DUDE check this out eat about 300-350g of protein/day 450-500g of carbs/day and don't really worry that much about the fat as long as it's not over like 150g/ or so. That's what I've been doing some days I WILL Eat ALOT more depends on how hungry I am and if it's a training day or not.

Do you have a steady workout that your going by now??????

If your trying westside I posted on here a workout idea for 4 weeks you can try that and just repeat it and it'll be 8 weeks????

The thing I like about westside is that it doesn't take me more than 1 hour to lift and then I have ALOT more free time.

Don't worry that much about the forearms they'll come, trust me mine are coming in a lil. The good thing with gaining weight is the size you get from me bulking up I gained 6 inches on shoulder width 4 inches on chest 3/4 inch on arms and 5/8 inch on forearms 5 inches on quads 1 inch on calves.(I'M NOT A BB, just like knowing how big I am In my case i'm small compared to ALOT of you, but for my age I'm decent)

good luck with your training if you want meal ideas that are HIGH in calories and bulk you up send me a PM or something. Always good to see another teen wanting to get BIG not like those scronny punks I see around all the time.

 

[Cubanito17]

What are you looking to get faster for I forgot to ask. If your talking for football the best things to do are compound movements. I used to compete for my school in powerlifting and we had 2 lifts pause/clean&jerk. So I was doing modified westside and OL training(with help from arioch).

You might wanna incorporate into your workouts some push presses, clean&press, Powercleans, hang cleans, front squats, snatch, hang snatch. etc.

 

[lilmikey]

i think that he means "how do i gain the most size in the quickest fashion?", and he assumes that powerlifters have the greatest muscle mass. if i'm right in assuming that is what he means, perhaps he would be better off training like a bodybuilder rather than a powerlifter. though he would gain muscle on both types of training programs, bodybuilding is obviously geared toward, well, building the body... which is what i think he wants. so, which is it? do you want strength and speed more... or, do you want to gain size quickly? just trying to clear up your question for people. sorry if i'm wrong.

 

[IrishPower]

sorry lilmikey,

i disagree.

true size and density usually comes from moving heavy weights.

until you get to the pros, you usually cant tell a bodybuilder from an average citizen until he takes his shirt off.

again, the pros are an exception. they train heavy as shit as well and can post numbers that would be respectable in a p/l meet as well.

as far as gaining size: it doesnt really matter too much what program you use at your age as long as you train heavy, and as others have said, you eat right.

good luck.

/irish

 

[CytoMel]

Getting a good source of low priced whey protein is also a good idea. www.proteinfactory.com is very good and so are the 5lb containers from Prolab and Optimum among others. Make shakes with a lot of milk and bananas and that will help you grow quiclky.

 

[lilmikey]

i know that muscle comes from powerlifting, and everything you said is true, irishpower. you're right - he will gain muscle and size off of westside. cubanito has gained like thirty pounds or something. i was just saying that a bodybuilding routine would also work well for what he is trying to do if i understood him correctly. sorry. umm yeah but like everyone says... no matter what the training, you will grow with excess calories... which adds up to FOOOODD!

 

[endpoint]

Cubanito17: shit boy your getting big keep it up


eldiablo :forearms will build with all the pulls (read deadlifting) upper arms will get big from benching (namely triceps...which will look freaky large) biceps can be added additionally, your torso will be like a tree trunk (you may lose the V taper thing...but who cares you will be able to dead lift a car).


lilmikey: Powerlifting you get strong, quick and large at the same time (providing your training and eating is correct)

body building...you get big* mildly strong...and depends on how you train you may or may not get quicker (remember speed is the best way to move big weights)

why not kill three birds with one stone?


*big like some sort of picasso painting......like some thing a plastic surgeon has whipped together. Powerlifting will build a thick solid over all powerfull build. the key words being thick and powerfull...

 

[Cubanito17]

Yes it's tru I gained 35lbs actually. BUT that's b/c before when i was 160lbs I was kinda worried about my body hince the 8%BF I was at and didn't wanna gain weight I liked me abs. So you could say I wanted to look like a BB and have the strength of a PL but that never came.

Ever since I've been gaining weight the strength has been packing on. Especially with me pulling.

Thanks for the compliments guys that's what keeps me going.

 

[gmanlax7]

to put on size, make sure your not overtraining. I wasnt getting any bigger for a while, lifts were going up but not size, so i cut back and gave myself more days off, this helped my muscles have more times to grow and beefed me up.

 

[eldiablo]

wow lots of replies - thanks.

size vs. strength: I want to get bigger, but also stronger. The last thing I want is to somehow manage to add size and have no strength to back it up. Don't tell me for a second you powerlifters aren't huge. At some point I'll want to work on definition, moreso than some p/l may desire to, but powerlifting strikes me as getting big and strong fast.

I probably do need to eat more. I don't know my body fat %, but like cubanito, I fear adding on too much fat when bulking. What types of foods should I try for? I weigh about 165 now, just how much should I be eating?

I've stayed on a fairly steady work out plan, and never miss a workout unless i'm resting an injury. I need to know what works though. I'm dissatisfied with the gains, both strength and size from what I do now (I haven't had much guidance).

Can someone point me to this westside? Is there anything I need to know going into it?

Thanks guys!

 

[eldiablo]

another question regarding the fat issue...

is doing much aerobic exercise a bad idea when coupled with this kind of lifting? can i jump rope/run to offset some of the extra fat intake, or is this a bad idea?

 

[Cubanito17]

hey man as long as ur not eating sloppy like twinkies, cookies, BK and all that shit all the time and your eating good foods like pasta, steak, burgers, rice, chicken and shit like that then you'll be fine and you won't put on FAT you'll just put on some extra weight but really you'll be putting on size TRUST ME on that one I know I have.

At 160 5 months ago I looked ill now that i look back at some pics and now at 195 I look pretty good and I'm not that fat really and i'm ALOT stronger than before I love it. And westside and these boards is what I think changed it. This is a GREAT PLACE.

about the aerobic stuff if you do like twice a week 20 min or less of cardio I think you'll be good. Light cardio nothing that you run outta breath b/c then it's too much.

 

[Arioch]

Yes it's tru I gained 35lbs actually

You know, sometimes old guys get jealous of shit like this.

Good job, and keep up the good work.

Are you going to be going into any sort of athletic program in college or just focus on lifting?

 

[Cubanito17]

Thanks ARIOCH well if it wasn't for u guys helping me gain the weight really it woulda never came on. I remember the time I met BOB YOUNGS the FIRST thing he said to me was " you need to put on weight" and I was like UMM i don't wanna be FAT. But now I understood what he meant by big weights move big weights.

About the college thing I won't be playing college ball I'm doing first two years at a community college after that though. I was thinking about trying to get into UM as a walk on and if they can offer me a scholarship. Hell if I'm HUGE at 19 like FREAK and they watch me play, OH YEA THEY'LL WANT ME.