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12 Week Final Update: Me and the Young man I Trained

Where the muscles were put? Dont you wanna put them everywhere? To my knowledge you dont wanna try and make some things grow and leave the rest so I am confused as to how thats strategic. It seems you would want an equal balance and to make his entire body look bigger by increasing musclemass all throughout his body. Yeh?
 
Zuperman said:
The pictures provide the drive for the rest of us to keep going. So lay off bro, he ain't even selling his ebook.
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for me too :)

its exciting, much Like Dorian Yates first book was for me.

It was Fresh and new.

The ideas I have the honor to share I think will really be a new way to look at things, and this is really rewarding.
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Where the muscles were put? Dont you wanna put them everywhere? To my knowledge you dont wanna try and make some things grow and leave the rest so I am confused as to how thats strategic. It seems you would want an equal balance and to make his entire body look bigger by increasing musclemass all throughout his body. Yeh?
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Its how and where you put the muscle

Charles Glass ( the trainer behind alot of Flex Wheelers Development , and the NEW Gunter Shlierkamp) Said it Best:

You have develop all the "Hanger Muscles" to add to the illusion of that SIZE

Hangers as I Define it is SIDE deltoids, Upper Triceps, Lower Biceps, Upper , Low Outer Chest, Traps, REAR DELTS, Calves etc. they are relatively small muscles that if hit hard and almost over developed you get that LOOK of huge size.

IT is an Equal balance in our program
almost every one lifts in a way that does NOT do justice to the rest of the muscle bellies when worked.
 
jon79 said:
that dude will be getting alot of pussy
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I Told him From day one NOT to exploit women. And to approach a Girl i only in a way that he would want his own Daughter courted.

And to never use external appearances as a marker of success.
I go about my daily business in relatively raggedy clothes and look a bit messy to AVOID the advances of the superficial.

Power comes from the Inside not the outside, Real Power that is........

I told him above all you must be GOOD when no one is looking.
 
OMEGA said:
I Told him From day one NOT to exploit women. And to approach a Girl in a way only in a way would not his own Daughter courted.

And to never use external appearances as a marker of success.
I go about my daily business in relatively raggedy clothes a look a bit messy to AVOID the advances of the superficial.

Power comes from the Inside not the outside, Real Power that is........

I told him above all you must be GOOD when no one is looking.
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i know man i was kidding

i do go by those morals.....thats why i am prob single
 
I hope it lives up to the hype, I'll be the first one waiting in line to try it. It does look like all the weight went straight to the delts and chest. I assume that you used isolation movements with high reps. How old is this kid anyway?
 
good he has "Basic Legs" as I say
( from Legs presses, and Calf raises)

we will be sure to "trick them out" second training run
 
fpc4ever said:
I hope it lives up to the hype, I'll be the first one waiting in line to try it. It does look like all the weight went straight to the delts and chest. I assume that you used isolation movements with high reps. How old is this kid anyway?
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its not Hype.
you either will like it or you wont.

either way the techniques work whether you agree with them or not.

he is about 23 ( not exactly sure)

We used a combo of Compound Movements with Isolation movements
 
Ahh sounds like something I do some what. Basic compound movements incorporated with iso movments and not always using ballbusting weight as I like to say. I am sure yours is more refined but helps to know I am doing something somewhat similar.
 
If it truly was a 12 week period and I have no reason to refute that it isn't then it certainly is an amazing transformation. That 10lbs is very nicely distributed considering where he started. There is still work to do and would love to see documented pics when you hit it up with him in the new year. I bet he can't wait either!
 
are you going to reveal the secrets for the chest and delts, also i assume he must have used light weights for the delts,also when exactly is the book coming does it have a diet plan too
 
I've been away for a while but I see Omega is still doing incredible things and sharing his vast wealth of information to those that are willing to listen. This is a clear example of just how much knowledge this man has and how well designed his supplements are. A routine he gave me 4 years ago, along with many of his fine products are what helped me go from 144lbs to over 260 and as high as the 270's at certain times.

Fantastic job my brother. You did great things for this young man. He will always look back in life on this experience and all the wonderful benefits it has given him. You can even see it in his posing. In his old pics he seems to have a shyness about his body, but now you can see the confidence in his body language/posing.

Sorry I haven't been around the past couple of months but I'm back and happy to be. :) Thanks for being the guy you are Omega. Not only are you a mentor to that young man but one to me as well. This kid is a living testament to what learning and hard work is all about. Omega, bravo on being a great teacher, mentor, mad scientist! and friend. :)
 
Thats awesome he gave you a workout plan. I want this Ebook to further my knowledge towards training as well. This sport is truly one of the most grueling and hardest sports there is. And you def cant know too much about it. Arnold said it best when he said we are like sculptors except our job is a lot harder becuz we are dealing with the human body. A sculptor can slap clay on things to even them out but we have to make one thing larger and in turn keep it balanced and make everything larger. But I guess that is what separates the menf rom the boys in this!

Cheers!
 
Hybridtheory2o said:
Thats awesome he gave you a workout plan. I want this Ebook to further my knowledge towards training as well. This sport is truly one of the most grueling and hardest sports there is. And you def cant know too much about it. Arnold said it best when he said we are like sculptors except our job is a lot harder becuz we are dealing with the human body. A sculptor can slap clay on things to even them out but we have to make one thing larger and in turn keep it balanced and make everything larger. But I guess that is what separates the menf rom the boys in this!

Cheers!
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I want this E-book too..

I especially want to know Omega's view on chest exercises and arms, mostly chest because my arms develope fairly easily with what I've been doing in the past.
 
OMEGA said:
I am sorry bro
I am not answering any Training associated PM's but after December will be happy too! :)
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hah k. ill just re-send it after december and be a lazy ass in the time being :santa:
 
c3bodybuilding said:
I've been away for a while but I see Omega is still doing incredible things and sharing his vast wealth of information to those that are willing to listen. This is a clear example of just how much knowledge this man has and how well designed his supplements are. A routine he gave me 4 years ago, along with many of his fine products are what helped me go from 144lbs to over 260 and as high as the 270's at certain times.

Fantastic job my brother. You did great things for this young man. He will always look back in life on this experience and all the wonderful benefits it has given him. You can even see it in his posing. In his old pics he seems to have a shyness about his body, but now you can see the confidence in his body language/posing.

Sorry I haven't been around the past couple of months but I'm back and happy to be. :) Thanks for being the guy you are Omega. Not only are you a mentor to that young man but one to me as well. This kid is a living testament to what learning and hard work is all about. Omega, bravo on being a great teacher, mentor, mad scientist! and friend. :)
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I am Speechless.

Thank you very much is all i can say good friend.
 
OMEGA said:
The way we train each body part is fairly unorthodox

cant wait to get harrassed for the ideas :)
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dude I will totally be another lab rat for you!

I've already lost 40 lbs this year, still got another 30 or so, not in nearly as good shape as your test subject.

going to start things back up hardcore again, would love some advice from a pro.

fuck I'll pay too. =)
 
wow thanks again:)

if this really works and the site wants it and I dont step on anyones toes,
I would love to take on a few members as a advisor in their development.
 
OMEGA said:
wow thanks again:)

if this really works and the site wants it and I dont step on anyones toes,
I would love to take on a few members as a advisor in their development.
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read my signature, " good artist borrow, great artist steal." if you want to be successful at something, find someone who already is, and duplicate their process. SIGN ME UP OMEGA. you say jump. i say how high and where do i land.
:)
 
OMEGA said:
wow thanks again:)

if this really works and the site wants it and I dont step on anyones toes,
I would love to take on a few members as a advisor in their development.
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you couldn't step on anyone's toes, you're a credit to the site.

you're the reason people like me and many others come here, and you're the reason we stay feeling like we aren't wasting our time.

I'm primed up and ready to go, I'll even do before and after pics, I'm going to start going hardcore on the first day of august, I'm just getting myself warmed up right now. =)

I'd love to pick your brain for all the advice I could get, hehe.
 
"Lab rat", "gym rat", whatever.. I'd be happy to take your advice and break the bonds of plateaus I have been relegated too by decades of 'same ole' training, (albeit different training principles) and trying what you have to offer..

I am too old and joints are a bit trashed to train 'like people I will never be', but after seeing the results you have posted, and the 'teaser information' you have let out about 'sensible movements and poundages', this may be just the ticket for my own personal improvements after a long time of 'same ole'.

You know I'm in!
 
omega you know damn well i am with your cause.... like i stated many times in this thread, i wish i had a good bro like you to tak eme under his wing and train me. anytime you need another student, let me know :)
 
think about this....im stoned, bear with me. but i feel this post in general has prompted tons of motivation and ideas in everyone's heads we would of never thought. i'm very pleased this post was made even without knowing the training yet because, now i'm searching around the internet for example looking for all kinds of new deltoid exercises i have never heard of. i've always kinda ignored my delts by means of getting stronger and larger. i donno why. just never would've imagined its all in the delts even though it's always the muscle that's impressed me the most. you see the big bi's but you always end up looking at the delts and where those oversized delts taper back in to a decent sized bicep. hehe. this post has changed alot for me and im glad for it. cheers
 
fpc4ever said:
Of course there is a demand for it, there is nothing useful in this post. No training info, no diet, cycles, nothing. I'll be the first one to take pre and post Omega training pics and post them and will follow his guidelines exactly, but he has posted nothing and I doubt will by December either. You might not like me which is fine, but you have to agree that 90 nobody in here has made huge gains in 90 days natty and it's insulting to act like some revolutationary who has figured out the secret then not give any advice.
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he never said it was all natty. Your a dumb mother fucker. Really you are and it shows in all your posts. You crack me up. Fuck up!!!
 
So many NICE things said THANK YOU all

And I must say that it is an honor and will actually be able to offer something to you.

To those that know you will Smash through barriers....
 
You dont wish to simply pass information on...

You are an entrepreneur and wish to sell us information...

I am not saying there is anything wrong with that... but I am stating facts...
 
TimeToGrow said:
You dont wish to simply pass information on...

You are an entrepreneur and wish to sell us information...

I am not saying there is anything wrong with that... but I am stating facts...
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Give the guy a break. Seems to me a little of both at best anyway. You have a guy who is clearly into this lifestyle and as an adjunct of giving back has managed to come up with some damn fine products that I have yet to see anyone not benefit from. So he is giving back for sure but found a way to make a little money at the same time.
 
Access said:
Give the guy a break. Seems to me a little of both at best anyway. You have a guy who is clearly into this lifestyle and as an adjunct of giving back has managed to come up with some damn fine products that I have yet to see anyone not benefit from. So he is giving back for sure but found a way to make a little money at the same time.
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I said

"I am not saying there is anything wrong with this"
 
TimeToGrow said:
You dont wish to simply pass information on...

You are an entrepreneur and wish to sell us information...

I am not saying there is anything wrong with that... but I am stating facts...
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Good then he makes damn fucking sure the information he passes on is going to make a massive difference and help like he says it is.

because he's responsible for it as he is for all his products and everything he promotes, which brings a certain level of higher quality of "adivce" then someone who would offer it freely, don't you think?

I don't think there is anything wrong with it, I think it's a great thing.

he's proven that he knows his shit, countless times I'm sure, alot of people love his products, and I for one will oh so happily take any advice and guidance I can get from this man. =)
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
Good then he makes damn fucking sure the information he passes on is going to make a massive difference and help like he says it is.

because he's responsible for it as he is for all his products and everything he promotes, which brings a certain level of higher quality of "adivce" then someone who would offer it freely, don't you think?

I don't think there is anything wrong with it, I think it's a great thing.

he's proven that he knows his shit, countless times I'm sure, alot of people love his products, and I for one will oh so happily take any advice and guidance I can get from this man. =)
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X 2

so the man makes a livin by knowing his stuff......is that bad.

got time for a PCT question OMEGA?
 
TimeToGrow said:
I said

"I am not saying there is anything wrong with this"
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Yea but your posts came across as if you think what he is doing is wrong and you want it for free. as he has said manytimes his goal was not to write a book when he was doing this. Since the demand is there he is going to do it. You can say there is nothing wrong with but you are giving a back handed compliment.

Not saying your doing anything wrong just staing the facts.
 
Those that are willing to take the leap will get the best I have to offer.

I only want to share with those that WANT to learn and are Nice and who will trust me
, if I don't like you I wont help you no matter how much $$ you have..........

I picked the Young man to help
and I will pick those who I believe have the power within them and the will to transform.
 
:wavey:
OMEGA said:
Those that are willing to take the leap will get the best I have to offer.

I only want to share with those that WANT to learn and are Nice and who will trust me
, if I don't like you I wont help you no matter how much $$ you have..........

I picked the Young man to help
and I will pick those who I believe have the power within them and the will to transform.
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:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: LOL.
 
OMEGA said:
Those that are willing to take the leap will get the best I have to offer.

I only want to share with those that WANT to learn and are Nice and who will trust me
, if I don't like you I wont help you no matter how much $$ you have..........

I picked the Young man to help
and I will pick those who I believe have the power within them and the will to transform.
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:king: :king: :king:
 
please tell me why its so important if he was naturasl or not? this seems to be a question that folks who dont grow ask as there looking for shortcuts. hard work and dedication natural or not always equals great results. have competed natural and juiced and will say i receievd comments on a great body both ways as i worked my ass off to get it. this is to omegas point.
 
flexed1 said:
please tell me why its so important if he was naturasl or not? this seems to be a question that folks who dont grow ask as there looking for shortcuts. hard work and dedication natural or not always equals great results. have competed natural and juiced and will say i receievd comments on a great body both ways as i worked my ass off to get it. this is to omegas point.
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Well put!
 
flexed1 said:
please tell me why its so important if he was naturasl or not? this seems to be a question that folks who dont grow ask as there looking for shortcuts. hard work and dedication natural or not always equals great results. have competed natural and juiced and will say i receievd comments on a great body both ways as i worked my ass off to get it. this is to omegas point.
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THANKYOU Sir :artist:
 
Hi Goku

he had no better then a recreational Swimmer build and his Max on Dumbell Bench presses was 50 pounds on each hand:)

( just before we started)
 
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OMEGA said:
Hi Goku

he had no better then a recreational Swimmer build and his Max on Dumbell Bench presses was 50 pounds on each hand:)

( just before we started)
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omega you just full of wonders my man, your products are amazing bro and the young man is an example of what you could do for many people

you deserve the best :)
 
Its true

and thanks!

and I am training him again in about 6 weeks

then another young man after him and possibly a young girl too who could be the next female version of the young man I trained.

this time pics will be dated and he will hold a bottle or two of our Supps ;)
 
OMEGA said:
Its true

and thanks!

and I am training him again in about 6 weeks

then another young man after him and possibly a young girl too who could be the next female version of the young man I trained.

this time pics will be dated and he will hold a bottle or two of our Supps ;)
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man your going to hit him up again, be carful bro you might turn him into a freak of nature lol

awesome stuff,

check your pm's
 
checked

Round 2 will just add more refinement

and we are doing it so this time to also create a more impressive record dates etc.
and also to help advance the young mans marketability.

I hope I can train the female equivalent of the young man so that women can benefit from her advances she is awesome too and has "got it" as they say
 
just out of curiosity , the delts and chest routine have they worked for everyone you have trained, also correct me if im wrong but the young man looks like he dropped a bit of BF too was that just a bonus

goku :)
 
Hello :)

Yes particularly alot of you guys will be able to get those Traps that and Side Deltoid Development that is so "cartoonish" and you will get it quite easily.

Also I imagine alot of people chest will come in Quick, but the reps cadence, and series of lifts is KEY, key, KEY.
 
OMEGA said:
Hello :)

Yes particularly alot of you guys will be able to get those Traps that and Side Deltoid Development that is so "cartoonish" and you will get it quite easily.

Also I imagine alot of people chest will come in Quick, but the reps cadence, and series of lifts is KEY, key, KEY.
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thanks, omega im when people are taking under your wing they will mutate and change there lives for ever,
also the young man did he drop bf cause it looks like it , or is it just me


goku :)
 
:)

the way we train lends it self to significant calorie burn
its possible he indeed dropped more fat but I think alot of it is muscle coming through in bold relief.
 
absolutely bro, im always here to help. you can call me ghost

i never really talked to you before i dont think.....

im glad you honor my presence bro, you are an intelligent dude yourself.
 
OMEGA said:
:)

the way we train lends it self to significant calorie burn
its possible he indeed dropped more fat but I think alot of it is muscle coming through in bold relief.
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yes he must of dropped Bf because the more lean muscle mass you have the more fat you will burn, especially in the places where he put the muscle on.

also probably a stupid question but when the young man wears a t shirt can you see his delts and chest through it lol
 
Goku :)

His arms are Permanently larger after our training.

His chest when pumped breaks through his shirt..

On our journey he took about 10 steps forward and has only lost about 20% of his size

that was 3 months ago or so.:)

So as you can see Natty or Not Natty he KEPT his gains and most imprtant HIS LOOK;)
 
OMEGA said:
Rest / Pause is a good lifting technique

particularly for high reps squats and Chest pressing
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Dude, put me down for a copy of that book. I have to see what you did. Nice work!
 
im in on it, he made great gains. looking at the pic we have about the same mass build when he started. id love too put on the rest in that short of time.
i get married in feb. and would like to put on as much as pos in the next 4 months
 
Wootoom said:
i smell something is it bullshit?
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nah its just your girls twat.
 
I dont get why people gotta be dick heads on here. People pound thier chests all day long on here like they are big shit or something. Just be glad someone is doing better than you. I know it sucks to see people move on in life and make money or make changes in others lives and your still jacing off to free porn and buying the next best supplement because some IFBB pro has his pic by it. If you have nothing nice to say then shut the fuck up!!!!! I know your mama taught ya better.

I hate tha haters.
 
errn247 thanks bro for sticking up for me!

Wootoom is an interesting fellow that uses shall we say "intense" forms of humor.

on many occasions he has said he would saw me on half with a chain only later to say that he really loves me.

so basically he is a crazy good bro.
 
omega, is your secret arm workout very effective

also how many more inches did the young man put on his arm , you probably don't know exactly how much but just an estimate :)

goku
 
Wootoom said:
LOL im buddies with Omega you fuckin waste of life. I was joking.
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my bad it wasnt posted that your buddies with him. How am I supposed to know? You seemd like a everyother dipshit making post trying to call him out. thats it. No need for name calling and your girl really doesnt smell that bad. lol
 
holy ghost said:
Thats why i dont go in C%C

Bunch of dumb fuck
free flyin Test newbies
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Who are ya talking about?
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
omega, is your secret arm workout very effective

also how many more inches did the young man put on his arm , you probably don't know exactly how much but just an estimate :)

goku
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The Arms workouts and especially what led to that KEY deltoid Trap development will probably UNDO alot of conventional Theory for many

hell even the Chest theories too should upset those addicted to Bench Pressing

I am here to share not ARGUE
 
Thanks for sharing Omega. Just got my amp02 in the mail. I have been w/o out it for weeks now and am ready to hit the gym tomorrow. Thanks
 
OMEGA said:
The Arms workouts and especially what led to theat KEY deltoid Trap development will probably UNDO alot of conventional Theory for many

hell even the Chest theories too should upset those addicted to Bench Pressing

I am here to share not ARGUE
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Hey bro... As you know my main focus in training is just sharpening my MMA skills. Still, I like to look good for the ladies!
Can you help me modify your program to help me achieve an better "bodybuilder look" while still maintaining my effectiveness in the ring????

Over the years I have found myself going back and forth between lifting like a bodybuilder and training for MMA... I find that I get PAINFUL pumps on my legs and arms while trying to spar MMA, if I have been lifting like a BBer....

Then I will change my BB lifting routine to that of a fighter, and it will help my MMA immensely... BUT, then my "look" suffers as a cause of the change in lifting regimen...

Can you make this work? Can I have my body and use it too?
 
OMEGA said:
The Arms workouts and especially what led to that KEY deltoid Trap development will probably UNDO alot of conventional Theory for many

hell even the Chest theories too should upset those addicted to Bench Pressing

I am here to share not ARGUE
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i also don't think that the bench press is very effective for building the chest , its most effective for blowing out your shoulders and triceps, but it does have its place in the BB world
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Hey bro... As you know my main focus in training is just sharpening my MMA skills. Still, I like to look good for the ladies!
Can you help me modify your program to help me achieve an better "bodybuilder look" while still maintaining my effectiveness in the ring????

Over the years I have found myself going back and forth between lifting like a bodybuilder and training for MMA... I find that I get PAINFUL pumps on my legs and arms while trying to spar MMA, if I have been lifting like a BBer....

Then I will change my BB lifting routine to that of a fighter, and it will help my MMA immensely... BUT, then my "look" suffers as a cause of the change in lifting regimen...

Can you make this work? Can I have my body and use it too?
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Yes you can have it all, you can have the body you want and and use it too:)

We can talk about it provatly in more detail.

Its would entail abbreviated workouts at a VERY specif rep threshold and intensity level with of course specific exercises that merge functionality with aesthetic appeal.
 
when the chosen few that are participating in your project :) :) , lets say if the wanted a enormous upper body only, will you give it to them eg: back, traps,delts,arms,chest

goku
 
I def agree with omegas "hanger" mucles
Body building is a illusion to create a 3-D body that looks good at every angle
traps,rear delts,biceps,upper tricep,calves all must be well developed becuase in everyday life if some one is in just a shirt and shorts the outline of the body is all that is seen and people assume if all the elements exposed are that developed so is everything else even the clothed parts.
 
chazk said:
I def agree with omegas "hanger" mucles
Body building is a illusion to create a 3-D body that looks good at every angle
traps,rear delts,biceps,upper tricep,calves all must be well developed becuase in everyday life if some one is in just a shirt and shorts the outline of the body is all that is seen and people assume if all the elements exposed are that developed so is everything else even the clothed parts.
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thats true, hanger muscles are the best, when some one sees you in a t shirt they will be like "wow this guy works out or something"
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Hey bro... As you know my main focus in training is just sharpening my MMA skills. Still, I like to look good for the ladies!
Can you help me modify your program to help me achieve an better "bodybuilder look" while still maintaining my effectiveness in the ring????

Over the years I have found myself going back and forth between lifting like a bodybuilder and training for MMA... I find that I get PAINFUL pumps on my legs and arms while trying to spar MMA, if I have been lifting like a BBer....

Then I will change my BB lifting routine to that of a fighter, and it will help my MMA immensely... BUT, then my "look" suffers as a cause of the change in lifting regimen...

Can you make this work? Can I have my body and use it too?
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I dont see how you guys get in the ring and beat the shit out of each other.

i was watching the 50 best ass kickings yesterday and the crazy iron horse from UFC got on top of (i forget his name) some asian guy and was chopping on his face and the guy went limp.
 
chazk said:
I def agree with omegas "hanger" mucles
Body building is a illusion to create a 3-D body that looks good at every angle
traps,rear delts,biceps,upper tricep,calves all must be well developed becuase in everyday life if some one is in just a shirt and shorts the outline of the body is all that is seen and people assume if all the elements exposed are that developed so is everything else even the clothed parts.
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3-D bodybuilding indeed

but also its just adds commentary on how most Modern Routines have lost Touch

I feel Body Building is a much more a Finesse' thing

VERY much like Art.

sure you can be strong, but what good is it if you cannot channel it into the very thing you do?
 
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