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11 REASONS : proviron should be ran during PCT

holy ghost

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this is why proviron IS a good staple during PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - -

lets go over the obvious reasons first

1. extra andro floating around - always nice

2. it is sex hormone binding globulin binding- moreso than any other according to a few sources. a hormone responsible for reducing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body

3. libido - sex, confidence

4. dihydrotestosterone is 3 to 4 times as androgenic as testosterone and is incapable of forming estrogen, keeps you dry and semi lean!

5. since it is not c17-Alpha-Alkylated, not VERY liver toxic

6. That means if you choose to take proviron with testosterone and/or any aromatizable steroid, it should actually serve to prevent estrogen build up by the binding to the aromatase enzyme

7. Also, Proviron binds to the Anabolic Receptor better than any oral anabolic except nasty methyl trenbolone! SUPER TOXIC BROS

8. Anabolic Receptors in fat cells to affect fat burning The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue

9. Lets face it- it helps you retain more gains!

10. LAST BUT NOT LEAST - When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - and lh - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - levels Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH !Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact.

11. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels)

result: proviron doesnt negatively affect your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - recovery!

i have ran it at 50mg ed with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /clomid and had excellent results
before you old guys go and get some, remember it can accelerate mail pattern baldness

Active Life: up to 12 hours
Detection Time: 5-6weeks


sources
Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.

(Xu X, et al. "The effects of androgens on the regulation of lipolysis in adipose precursor cells." Endocrinology 1990 Feb;126(2):1229 ).
J Anim Sci. 1992 Nov;70(11):3381-90.

Am J Physiol. 1998 Jun;274(6 Pt 1):C1645-52.
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.
 
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Just a PCT question...obviously, this would be used in lieu of something like, Arimidex.... have a sample cycle run after, say, a modest 6 week cycle of Primo/test-sust/anavar? I would think that the HCG would still be used?? Just theorizing here....

KR
 
needtogetaas said:
run it post PCT - post cycle therapy - not during PCT - post cycle therapy - mmm k.
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Thanks again to you! I know you helping me in a different thread. I gotta try everything possible for PCT after the time I was on, before I throw the towel in and have to resort to HRT.
 
Para_Shoot said:
Thanks again to you! I know you helping me in a different thread. I gotta try everything possible for PCT - post cycle therapy - after the time I was on, before I throw the towel in and have to resort to HRT.
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get with me in some pm's bro hrt is the last resort
 
Good post. your saying run it during PCT? looks like Meedto is saying after PCT? which is better?

RN
 
needtogetaas said:
run it post PCT - post cycle therapy - not during PCT - post cycle therapy - mmm k.
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glad you chimed in, ive read a couple of different places it suppresses natural test. i usually run it right before pct to clear all the extra estrogen and crap out.
 
I just can't agree to using Proviron for PCT. There's little doubt it is great stacked on cycle with test, deca tren etc but regardless of it's anti-estrogen/libido properties it still is suppressive to natural test production and this goes against what your trying to achieve while running PCT.
 
thanks for responding

but it is proven to not shut down your HPTA brother or inhibit rehabilitation

but for fuck sake

when i sit back and think about it - yeah ovb its not FULLY recovering, one can not disagree with that....
 
holy ghost said:
this is why proviron IS a good staple during PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - -

lets go over the obvious reasons first

1. extra andro floating around - always nice

2. it is sex hormone binding globulin binding- moreso than any other according to a few sources. a hormone responsible for reducing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body

3. libido - sex, confidence

4. dihydrotestosterone is 3 to 4 times as androgenic as testosterone and is incapable of forming estrogen, keeps you dry and semi lean!

5. since it is not c17-Alpha-Alkylated, not VERY liver toxic

6. That means if you choose to take proviron with testosterone and/or any aromatizable steroid, it should actually serve to prevent estrogen build up by the binding to the aromatase enzyme

7. Also, Proviron binds to the Anabolic Receptor better than any oral anabolic except nasty methyl trenbolone! SUPER TOXIC BROS

8. Anabolic Receptors in fat cells to affect fat burning The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue

9. Lets face it- it helps you retain more gains!

10. LAST BUT NOT LEAST - When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - - follicle stimulating hormone - and lh - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - levels Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH !Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact.

11. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels)

result: proviron doesnt negatively affect your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - recovery!

i have ran it at 50mg ed with Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - /clomid and had excellent results
before you old guys go and get some, remember it can accelerate mail pattern baldness

Active Life: up to 12 hours
Detection Time: 5-6weeks


sources
Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to sex hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.

(Xu X, et al. "The effects of androgens on the regulation of lipolysis in adipose precursor cells." Endocrinology 1990 Feb;126(2):1229 ).
J Anim Sci. 1992 Nov;70(11):3381-90.

Am J Physiol. 1998 Jun;274(6 Pt 1):C1645-52.
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.
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Its funney you post this, i just started it with my pct..... Have you used it before for pct? I did not research it, but i was feeling really down and new it would free up the test. Good Post K
 
ABSOLUTELY BRO I DONT ADVOCATE SHIT I HAVENT USED MYSELF EFFECTIVELY

it should help your libido and confidence, keep us posted bro
i am going to run it this turn around as well!
 
fpc4ever said:
lol at run it during PCT - post cycle therapy - ... IT IS PCT
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why dont you read the othr posts. Holy said during and needto said after. many people say you can run provi year round to keep your free test higher d/t how it affects the Sex hormon binding globulin. and it does not shut you completely down.
 
and burns when i piss. shit
 
5 foot 8, 180lbs and training for over 7 years. Currently on test eth. 250ml week 8 of 10 week program. Have proviron 25mg tabs enough for 10 days. Still a bit confused on when to take. I was planning on taking it with my last shot to finish out my cycle nice lean and dry. After the appropriate time, I will start Nolv. for PCT. Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. Thanks in advance
 
haji said:
5 foot 8, 180lbs and training for over 7 years. Currently on test eth. 250ml week 8 of 10 week program. Have proviron 25mg tabs enough for 10 days. Still a bit confused on when to take. I was planning on taking it with my last shot to finish out my cycle nice lean and dry. After the appropriate time, I will start Nolv. for PCT - post cycle therapy - . Any thoughts or suggestions is appreciated. Thanks in advance
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You need more, bro. At least, 30-40 more.
 
thanks for the help. I have 20 tabs of 25mg of proviron. My understanding is that 50mg a day is good enough. Since I don't have enough to run for 5 weeks etc any thoughts on taking them or not even for 10 days? I will get much more next cycle. Not enough time to get more since I'm on week 8 of a 10 week cycle. Thanks
 
I have 20 tabs of 25mg proviron. What is your recommendation on how much to take and for how long when running with test- e 250 or Sustanon 250 for 10 weeks for future ref?
 
when i used the real deal schering proviron, while not on cycle, it seem totally non-suppressive. also the increase in sex drive was very pronounced. another time when i used china sourced "proviron" it was more suppressive and not as effective as the schering. it had otherwise similar qualities but required a larger dose and i felt more shutdown with more testicular atrophy.
 
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