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Any thoughts? I have numerous close friends who have been doing this for years now and look/feel great with no regrets. From time to time, they'll run up to 300mg/wk max with maybe another compound thrown in at low dose.

I'd like to do the same... wondering what the thoughts are on this one. Before anyone asks I'm 29 years of age, been training consistently for about 12 years now, sitting at around 200lbs with a fairly low body fat.

Lets hear some opinions!

Also, if you are currently doing this (HRT, TRT) please feel free to post any advice!!! (ie. supplements/ancillaries you take)
VW
 
van_wilder said:
Any thoughts? I have numerous close friends who have been doing this for years now and look/feel great with no regrets. From time to time, they'll run up to 300mg/wk max with maybe another compound thrown in at low dose.

I'd like to do the same... wondering what the thoughts are on this one. Before anyone asks I'm 29 years of age, been training consistently for about 12 years now, sitting at around 200lbs with a fairly low body fat.

Lets hear some opinions!

Also, if you are currently doing this (HRT, TRT) please feel free to post any advice!!! (ie. supplements/ancillaries you take)
VW
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Bro, almost EVERYONE on HRT does that. It's obviously good because you don't have to run PCT... Ramp up, Ramp down, do blood work, Repeat. :qt:
 
Not at 29 bro. You definitely should wait to go on full blown HRT for quite a few years. IMO, 35+ is the starting point for doing HRT for the rest of your life.
 
I do 100mg prop eod. I also take dermcrine almost all the time 5 pumps ed. I throw in some other sups from time to time. Ones I like

amp02 best bumps ever hands down.
unleashed/post cycle keeps the shgb down and gives me big ass loads to srop on the wife.
Cranberry extract
fish oil
multi
extra vit c
garlic pills
co q 10
premross oil
eca stack every once in a wile
endo amp/photo test every once in a wile. There good supps.
 
needtogetaas said:
I do 100mg prop eod. I also take dermcrine almost all the time 5 pumps ed. I throw in some other sups from time to time. Ones I like

amp02 best bumps ever hands down.
unleashed/post cycle keeps the shgb down and gives me big ass loads to srop on the wife.
Cranberry extract
fish oil
multi
extra vit c
garlic pills
co q 10
premross oil
eca stack every once in a wile
endo amp/photo test every once in a wile. There good supps.
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yeah bro, but 100mg prop EOD is a full blown cycle for most people.
 
dabuffguy said:
Not at 29 bro. You definitely should wait to go on full blown HRT for quite a few years. IMO, 35+ is the starting point for doing HRT for the rest of your life.
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really age isn't a factor in HRT IF a person is being prescribed it b/c of medical reasons. Now does the OP really have low test levels and need it, we don't know, but if he does his age shouldn't matter.
 
mwm5 said:
really age isn't a factor in HRT IF a person is being prescribed it b/c of medical reasons. Now does the OP really have low test levels and need it, we don't know, but if he does his age shouldn't matter.
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Very true. It's circumstantial. If your doc can legitimately prescribe you for low test, then go for it. But if he doesn't because test levels are normal, don't mess with it permanantly with self imposed HRT until you are older.

Once you go on HRT for an extended period of time, getting your natural levels back to normal range is a long shot. Anyone can make that choice to go on HRT, but if you know it isn't necessary, I personally suggest you reconsider.
 
By not cycling, would that not permanently shut down or harm your natural test levels?
 
dabuffguy said:
Not at 29 bro. You definitely should wait to go on full blown HRT for quite a few years. IMO, 35+ is the starting point for doing HRT for the rest of your life.
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Have my blood tested regularly and I am in the normal range when off. There is no medical need, i just always feel better when on test. My question I guess is are there any negative effects to this? If I have no reason to be concerned about being on HRT for the rest of my life why not? Is it really much worse than cycling on and off and constantly having your system on a hormonal roller coaster?
 
van_wilder said:
sense of well being, maintain muscle mass, stay lean i guess would be my top reasons.
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That wouldn't be enough reason to fuck up my system forever. At least for me. Listen to the rest of the bros here.
 
van_wilder said:
Have my blood tested regularly and I am in the normal range when off. There is no medical need, i just always feel better when on test. My question I guess is are there any negative effects to this? If I have no reason to be concerned about being on HRT for the rest of my life why not? Is it really much worse than cycling on and off and constantly having your system on a hormonal roller coaster?
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if you are cycling on and off anyway, I suppose cruising at 100mg isn't much different.

I guess the point I am trying to make is, that your body is obviously most healthy just the way it funcitions naturally. A few cycles isn't going to hurt anything in all honesty. Going on HRT will eventually make your testicles incapable of producing testosterone. But, if you are injecting it anyways, it all comes down to the individual making that choice. I would choose to not go on HRT before 35 years old.

If your in normal range when off, keep going the way you are until your test levels fall below normal and your doc can prescribe you. That's your best option IMO. You should think abou tit, and make your choice after some pondering. Things like this shouldn't be done on a whim. I consider going on HRT at a young age a big decision, and should be made after much thought. I hope whatever you decide to do brings you the best end result bro.
 
dabuffguy said:
yeah bro, but 100mg prop EOD is a full blown cycle for most people.
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NOT for Big Guys or those with alot of Mass

150 a week may work for a 5'4 Ecto Morph

but not a 6 foot Mesomorph
 
OMEGA said:
NOT for Big Guys or those with alot of Mass

150 a week may work for a 5'4 Ecto Morph

but not a 6 foot Mesomorph
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I'm not sure whether you realized I said Every other day, and not weekly.

100 every other day is too much for HRT IMO. say this because having 4X as much test as you should in your body at all times is not healthy on your system. It can't be.
 
oh and some people do need to stay on year round, they're called bodybuilders.
or there are those on the other end of the spectrum that want to for obvious health benefits
 
needtogetaas said:
I do 100mg testosterone propionate eod. I also take dermcrine almost all the time 5 pumps ed. I throw in some other sups from time to time. Ones I like

amp02 best bumps ever hands down.
unleashed/post cycle keeps the shgb down and gives me big ass loads to srop on the wife.
Cranberry extract
fish oil
multi
extra vit c
garlic pills
co q 10
premross oil
eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin stack every once in a wile
endo amp/photo test every once in a wile. There good supps.
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I was laughing so hard when I read the part I hilighted and underlined then I started thinking, "Wait a minute, my girl likes it when I give her a pearl necklace and mathcing earings, Peter North stylie or even creampie her once in a while hmmm....."
Were you being serious about that NeedTo? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you and how long have you been running that amount of Prop? 100mg of Prop. is quite a bit. Comes out to 350mg of test a week right? Forgive me if I am being too nosy. You really did crack me up with that comment. i was totally imagining that scene from scary movie. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
I'm on it, 100mg a of test a week keeps me in the upper reference range for Total T and Free/Bio Available T

I'm 27, had low T even before I touched AAS (in the low 400's with the reference range of around 340-1100)

I'm in the 900's now with 100mg a week... HCG twice a week (250iu) and .5mg adex twice a week as well.

I feel fantastic, much better than before. I know this is for life but I have no problems with it.

There is a difference between TRT and cycling... I'd consider taking enough to stay within reference ranges TRT. Anymore than that, you're cycling.

To each his own though, I am not judging anyone... I love AAS :)
 
OMEGA said:
NOT for Big Guys or those with alot of Mass

150 a week may work for a 5'4 Ecto Morph

but not a 6 foot Mesomorph
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Bro, needto does 100mgs eod and not weekly. That's a lot of test if you ask me! :worried: I dnt care if you're 6'5''
 
the_alcatraz said:
Bro, needto does 100mgs eod and not weekly. That's a lot of test if you ask me! :worried: I dnt care if you're 6'5''
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Everyone is different, a lot of speculation in this aspect of AAS use. If you look at animal dosing you will see humans are very under dosed. I know someone who just came off from 3 years at 750mg of Test, and a few other goodies along the way. The only thing he did was make sure if he ran 8 weeks of Tren he was back on just Test for another 8 weeks before running something else. Size is a very important factor.
 
lookinfit75 said:
I was laughing so hard when I read the part I hilighted and underlined then I started thinking, "Wait a minute, my girl likes it when I give her a pearl necklace and mathcing earings, Peter North stylie or even creampie her once in a while hmmm....."
Were you being serious about that NeedTo? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you and how long have you been running that amount of Prop? 100mg of Prop. is quite a bit. Comes out to 350mg of test a week right? Forgive me if I am being too nosy. You really did crack me up with that comment. i was totally imagining that scene from scary movie. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Yup I was being serious bro. I have onl been on the 100mg eod for 3 months so pretty much the time of a cycle. I will prop drop it to 50mg eod or 75mg eod soon.
 
"shgb down and gives me big ass loads to srop"


??? I thought I had been around for a while but some of these
acronyms are way over my head! :-) haha! maybe there is a
acro. definitions file somewhere here?
 
lookinfit75 said:
I was laughing so hard when I read the part I hilighted and underlined then I started thinking, "Wait a minute, my girl likes it when I give her a pearl necklace and mathcing earings, Peter North stylie or even creampie her once in a while hmmm....."
Were you being serious about that NeedTo? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you and how long have you been running that amount of Prop? 100mg of Prop. is quite a bit. Comes out to 350mg of test a week right? Forgive me if I am being too nosy. You really did crack me up with that comment. i was totally imagining that scene from scary movie. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Since UNLEASHED has ingredients to lower SHBG and POST CYCLE has ingredients to improve the quality of an erection, yeah, expect to be popping some bigger loads. Kinda gross to talk about but fun to do. :)
 
Ferrari933 said:
"shgb down and gives me big ass loads to srop"


??? I thought I had been around for a while but some of these
acronyms are way over my head! :-) haha! maybe there is a
acro. definitions file somewhere here?
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I meant shbg and drop not srop lol. Just typing to fast.
 
Burpees said:
Everyone is different, a lot of speculation in this aspect of AAS use. If you look at animal dosing you will see humans are very under dosed. I know someone who just came off from 3 years at 750mg of Test, and a few other goodies along the way. The only thing he did was make sure if he ran 8 weeks of Tren he was back on just Test for another 8 weeks before running something else. Size is a very important factor.
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How much does your friend running 750mgs test ew for 3 yrs weigh? 450lbs??

I still think that's a lot of test to NOT come off for three years....regardless of how big you are!

What was his PCT like?

And yes, I agree with you on that everyone is diff.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Since UNLEASHED has ingredients to lower SHBG and POST CYCLE has ingredients to improve the quality of an erection, yeah, expect to be popping some bigger loads. Kinda gross to talk about but fun to do. :)
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Unleashed has great reviews. I've heard a lot of people swear by it.
 
the_alcatraz said:
How much does your friend running 750mgs test ew for 3 yrs weigh? 450lbs??

I still think that's a lot of test to NOT come off for three years....regardless of how big you are!

What was his PCT like?

And yes, I agree with you on that everyone is diff.
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He is my height, 5'11 @ almost 270 last we talked, and I'd say 10%.. He loves Tren and often used it.. He looks bigger than 270 though, I look smaller than 220. PCT? Heh.. he's an idiot in regards to that.. He's tapering off.. Just lowering his dose bi-weekly and using HCG..not too sure how it's going.
 
Burpees said:
He is my height, 5'11 @ almost 270 last we talked, and I'd say 10%.. He loves Tren and often used it.. He looks bigger than 270 though, I look smaller than 220. PCT? Heh.. he's an idiot in regards to that.. He's tapering off.. Just lowering his dose bi-weekly and using HCG..not too sure how it's going.
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5'11 270? at 10%?

shit, that guy is a total monster. IDK how you could "look bigger" than that.
 
Burpees said:
He is my height, 5'11 @ almost 270 last we talked, and I'd say 10%.. He loves Tren and often used it.. He looks bigger than 270 though, I look smaller than 220. PCT? Heh.. he's an idiot in regards to that.. He's tapering off.. Just lowering his dose bi-weekly and using HCG..not too sure how it's going.
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270 at 5'11'' is fuckin HUGE bro....and takin that much test with no PCT is retarded.
 
the_alcatraz said:
270 at 5'11'' is fuckin HUGE bro....and takin that much test with no PCT is retarded.
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+1 and +1

i'm 5'11" and can't imagine weighing that much......fat or muscle.
 
mwm5 said:
+1 and +1

i'm 5'11" and can't imagine weighing that much......fat or muscle.
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I'm 5'8'' and I'm ONLY 200 lbs.
 
Heya bro does being on 150mg of enanthate keep your sex drive intact as well as your erection quality..does it atrophy your gonads at that dose and do you and if you do take any hcg throughout the year and how much per say? Does dostinex do a pretty good job of recovering your sex drive and erection quality per say..ive heard proviron helps but can only obtain dostinex for time being..any input would be greatly appreciated..I thank you for your time wisdom.
 
the_alcatraz said:
270 at 5'11'' is fuckin HUGE bro....and takin that much test with no PCT is retarded.
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The funny part is if he does actually come off with no pct like that he's gonna shrink way down from 270 and put on fat. Shit I would imagine at this point even if he could recover quickly he probably has more mass than his body is capable of preserving anyway. So it's either get smaller or stay on forever.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
The funny part is if he does actually come off with no pct like that he's gonna shrink way down from 270 and put on fat. Shit I would imagine at this point even if he could recover quickly he probably has more mass than his body is capable of preserving anyway. So it's either get smaller or stay on forever.
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how the hell do you keep on 270 lbs when you're only 5'11'' is beyond me. That's dedication if you're able to do it.
 
DJ_UFO said:
That wouldn't be enough reason to fuck up my system forever. At least for me. Listen to the rest of the bros here.
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Just wondering what you mean by "fuck up my system forever"? please explain...
 
Wow, Thats BIG....
Typically HRT/TRT amounts are 50-200/wk. 100 is probably the average. Other than the obvious sides, in-fertility, acne, etc. I cant see 100 as being a problem WITH SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT. Have your levels checked and go from there would be my advice
 
van_wilder said:
hey Galaxy... wondering how long you've been running this for? Any issues? Anything you'd do differently?
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Probably over a year now. before that I had been on higher doses for over 5 years. No problems now. Blood work normal. Test is mid level. My hdl is still low but its a genetic thing more or less.
 
I've been off for a total of 4 weeks out of the past 2 years, I alternate back and forth between low doses 100-200mg a week, up to heavy cycles. All of my blood tests have come back with everything in the normal range. I run hcg at 500iu 1-2 a week basically the whole time, so that there wont be permanent damage

I stay on this because frankly I just like the way I feel, I have all the kids I am having, so even if I did do damage I'm not too concerned. And for what its worth, I have gone clean here and there over the past few years, and can maintain my size juice free, and for those that dont know me, thats me in my avatar, so its some decent size I am maintaining
 
Needsize,
Stats plz. You look f*ing huge! You a pro? If you're not, you should be haha. Also, how do you maintain that size juice free and does your BF% go up while not on the juice to maintain the size?
 
I think needsize's genetics play the most crucial role in his ability to keep size. Not to mention dedication to diet and training that 99% on this board dont have.
 
van_wilder said:
OMEGA,
what dose would you recommend?
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I am NOT a Doctor nor an Endocrinologist

BUT STRICTLY for HRT purposes I have seen a "Trend"


Guys who are 130-180 pounds tend to feel pretty good on 125-200 a week

180-225lbs about 250 a week

225-275lbs about 300-350 a week

Again this means feeling pretty darn good and on the higher end of the Blood Test Level but NOT outrageous
 
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thanks galaxy, but trust me guys, my genetics suck, at least for gaining mass...I am a brutal hardgainer that has had to go through hell for every ounce that I have gained. i do have okay genetics for shape though) But what I have found is that the longer I have had the mass, the easier it is to keep, I think it becomes your body's new set point. So I have been basically this size for a few years, so keeping it has become fairly easy, on either a minimal dose or none at all. But like Galaxy said, its the committment that comes into play. I dont miss meals, and I never miss workouts, that seems to be key, especially the meals....

As for stats, in the avatar it was the day of my last show, weight was about 195lbs at 5'8"(I look bigger than my stats...lol). Currently between 216-220lbs at maybe 8% bf or so, I have actually managed to gain some size this past year
 
OMEGA said:
100 mgs is too low

might as well try HCG to come back it would be better then 100 mgs
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oh man u should tell that to my endo she would have a big debate with u.100mg of test according to her is more than enough plus it adds the chance of hematocit going wayyyy past normal..ask me i know mine did.
 
needtogetaas said:
Yup I was being serious bro. I have onl been on the 100mg eod for 3 months so pretty much the time of a cycle. I will prop drop it to 50mg eod or 75mg eod soon.
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dang how do ya keep up with all those pkes ouch ya must feel like a pin cushion.
 
needsize said:
thanks galaxy, but trust me guys, my genetics suck, at least for gaining mass...I am a brutal hardgainer that has had to go through hell for every ounce that I have gained. i do have okay genetics for shape though) But what I have found is that the longer I have had the mass, the easier it is to keep, I think it becomes your body's new set point. So I have been basically this size for a few years, so keeping it has become fairly easy, on either a minimal dose or none at all. But like Galaxy said, its the committment that comes into play. I dont miss meals, and I never miss workouts, that seems to be key, especially the meals....

As for stats, in the avatar it was the day of my last show, weight was about 195lbs at 5'8"(I look bigger than my stats...lol). Currently between 216-220lbs at maybe 8% bf or so, I have actually managed to gain some size this past year
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Needsize you run 500 HCG twice weekly every week?

I herd some people say take a clomid along every week to keep the boys healthy when running long cycles(+ 1 year, with taper downs). What are your thoughts?

-Eric
 
bigmusclehead said:
oh man u should tell that to my endo she would have a big debate with u.100mg of test according to her is more than enough plus it adds the chance of hematocit going wayyyy past normal..ask me i know mine did.
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do you know how douche bag docs I met?

there was guy who is a big guy 6'5 on 150 a week........he feels fine for 3 days after the shot...........but then the blood levels DROP by day 3 or 4 and he feels like shit the rest of the week

so he tell the Endo about the science of Test E and how for his size he may need 2 shots of 125-150 a week to maintain blood levels for mind and body.

he get scolded and intimidated for even asking'

fuck them............

Find a Doc who will listen and tell the rest to kill someone else life not yours......
 
pharmacist.

when you use 100mg of a testosterone + ester compound, it dissassociates in your body to form somethign like 80mg testosterone and 20mg ester (the actual proportion will depend on which ester youre using, because each have a different molecular weight, and hence, will make up a diffeent proportion of the 100mg testosterone + ester compound)

your body, naturaly, produces around 70mg of testosterone all on its own. therefore, using 100mg per week injected compound as youre saying is going to subject you to all the dramas of being a roider (legal stuff, cost, shrinking balls, infection risk, fake roids, misdosed roids) and for what? to increase available test from 70 to 80mg?

no offense, but thats dumb.

if on the other hand you had crappy low test because of genetics, age, or roid abuse, then i can see HRT as being appropriate.

the next obvious question that yorue going to ask is "what if i take 150mg instead of 100?" and to that, all i can say is that youre putting yourself at risk of short term roid side effects such as bloating etc (the usual stuff) medium terms side effects such as poor cholesterol, blood pressure etc, and long term cardiovascular problems such as arterial inalesticity, long term problematic blood pressure problems, and heart issues such as megalocardia, blown out valves etc

the ONLY positive to taking 100mg per week is that, if you decide to go on a roider dosed cycle (ie 250mg a week) then you wont crash when you come off, because you arent relying on testicular tissue to replace normal levels of testosterone during yoru off period, which, at age 29, is premature imo.

also consider that if you do do this, that your fertility may be affected long term.

cheerios
 
OMEGA said:
do you know how douche bag docs I met?

there was guy who is a big guy 6'5 on 150 a week........he feels fine for 3 days after the shot...........but then the blood levels DROP by day 3 or 4 and he feels like shit the rest of the week

so he tell the Endo about the science of Test E and how for his size he may need 2 shots of 125-150 a week to maintain blood levels for mind and body.

he get scolded and intimidated for even asking'

fuck them............

Find a Doc who will listen and tell the rest to kill someone else life not yours......
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omega could you please link me to the article/graph indicating significant test drops using test e after 2 days? it goes against accepted data regarding that drug

ta
 
EricG said:
Needsize you run 500 HCG twice weekly every week?

I herd some people say take a clomid along every week to keep the boys healthy when running long cycles(+ 1 year, with taper downs). What are your thoughts?

-Eric
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yup, I take a few weeks of it every now and then to prevent desensitization, but thats basically it
as for clomid, everything I have read says that it wont do much other than maybe increase ejactulate volume if you take it during a cycle...hcg is definitely the way to go...I had two kids on cycles that were around 3000mg a week following that protocol
 
dabuffguy said:
Not at 29 bro. You definitely should wait to go on full blown HRT for quite a few years. IMO, 35+ is the starting point for doing HRT for the rest of your life.
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I agree, and evern then for HRT i would sy more like 100mg every other week....
 
night train said:
I agree, and evern then for HRT i would sy more like 100mg every other week....
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your body produces more than that on its own
 
GoldenDelicious said:
omega could you please link me to the article/graph indicating significant test drops using test e after 2 days? it goes against accepted data regarding that drug

ta
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Gosh yes Bro I had the graph but cant find it.
( a real on that would satisfy you)


I should note that I am talking about MAINTAINING a specific blood level. EVERY DAY.

Which is why he ( the 6'5 er was trying to argue the 2 times a week PLUS a higher dose.....)

So what I am Arguing is the IDEAL dose pattern VS once a week.

And I am also commenting on the dose too. BASED on the things I have seen.
 
I am sorry its AFTER 4 DAYS
not 2 or 3...

The 2 times a week method STILL hold true and also higher dose for the Bigger man.
 
needsize said:
your body produces more than that on its own
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Exactly, so the question is do you want to completely fry out your patuitary or give you some extra umph the rest of your life? I prefer to keep my system producing....
 
night train said:
Exactly, so the question is do you want to completely fry out your patuitary or give you some extra umph the rest of your life? I prefer to keep my system producing....
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fry out your what!?
 
night train said:
Exactly, so the question is do you want to completely fry out your patuitary or give you some extra umph the rest of your life? I prefer to keep my system producing....
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Just that little computer in your head that tells the body when its time to produce.....
 
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