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1-Test Cypionate??? Real or Hype?

Um, yeah its a pro-whore-mone. Though if you want to flush your money away on those, 1-test is one of the better ones - but you have to take a TON of it.
 
got me real sick, so im sure it had some other side effects...if im gona take expensive shit with sides, its sure as hell not gona be 1 test!
 
I don't trust pro-hormones. Supplement companies are out to make big bucks and thats all. (most of them). Why would they put cypionate in the name? Does it actually have the same half life? I don't think so.
 
chordz said:
I don't trust pro-hormones. Supplement companies are out to make big bucks and thats all. (most of them).

Yea.. those UG labs are much more concerned about our health than making money.
:)
 
1-test is a steroid, not a ph. The cyp works great, I'm on it right now at 2 injects a week/200mg per inject. Painless.
 
If it does work you better stock up now because it will be off the market in a few months.
 
Dial_tone said:
If it does work you better stock up now because it will be off the market in a few months.

Well, it will probably last longer than that. The government moves pretty slow.
 
SO you are buying OTC supplements ( pH or steroid precursers or whatever) from where? GNC? That are intended for self administered Deep IM injections at home????? I am confused??? If THAT is what is being said I HIGHLY doubt it.
 
Well, I don't know what I would compare it to. My only aas exerience is with d-bol, deca, test-cyp and its nothing like that. All lean gains, great hardening effects and awesome strength gains.

Sides are the same as normal 1-Test but just more pronounced although with the cyp. version it took a little longer to hit.

Mine's oil based from Dazed. Using 25 gauge 1.5 inch. Easy, easy inject.

My weight started at 193lb and I'm up to 210 on week 5, but I'm on a lot of other things also, 1-test BDC transdermal, 4-ad transdermal, 19NorDiol transdermal, 1,4-ad, 5-ad, and 5aa. This is my last week on the 1-Test Cyp and 19-NorDiol, just starting the 5aa, will finish entirely on week 8.
 
alot of people will argue either way. because 1-test doesnt convert to anything, some say its a "real steroid."

even if it is, its a real weak one
 
Sir Foxx said:

My weight started at 193lb and I'm up to 210 on week 5, but I'm on a lot of other things also, 1-test BDC transdermal, 4-ad transdermal, 19NorDiol transdermal, 1,4-ad, 5-ad, and 5aa. This is my last week on the 1-Test Cyp and 19-NorDiol, just starting the 5aa, will finish entirely on week 8.

Damn, you're a regular Skip Lacour over there!
 
alot of people will argue either way. because 1-test doesnt convert to anything, some say its a "real steroid."

even if it is, its a real weak one

Do you have anything other than your opinion to back that statement up? If you're speaking of transdermal then test transdermal is a shit bodybuilding steroid, I'm talking about comparing it via the same method of administration. In my experience 1-test cypionate is superior to Tren mg for mg accounting for ester weight(I've done both).
 
I actually would be interested in hearing how good this stuff works. Little things like staying within the law mean alot more once you get to be my age and have more to lose.
 
Sir Foxx said:
Well, I don't know what I would compare it to. My only aas exerience is with d-bol, deca, test-cyp and its nothing like that. All lean gains, great hardening effects and awesome strength gains.

Sides are the same as normal 1-Test but just more pronounced although with the cyp. version it took a little longer to hit.

Mine's oil based from Dazed. Using 25 gauge 1.5 inch. Easy, easy inject.

My weight started at 193lb and I'm up to 210 on week 5, but I'm on a lot of other things also, 1-test BDC transdermal, 4-ad transdermal, 19NorDiol transdermal, 1,4-ad, 5-ad, and 5aa. This is my last week on the 1-Test Cyp and 19-NorDiol, just starting the 5aa, will finish entirely on week 8.

Are you trying to win a bet by taking as many OTC hormones as possible or something. That must have cost you a fortune. You could have easily attained those goals with like $200 worth of test.
 
I'm just experimenting. I know its not the most cost effective, and I can get the other stuff, I'm just seeing what I can achieve this way. Nothing wrong with a little variation. I will say its a little tiring, will be glad when its over.
 
methyl 1-test seems to be getting better reviews than the cyp. See some of the threads on t-mag right now about it. M1T causes nausea though.. and lack of appetite.
 
methyl-1-test and 1-test cypionate are completely different. It's like the difference between testosterone cypionate and methyltestosterone.
 
The T-mag article on M-1-T is a joke. So much wrong with that article its ridiculous. All their trying to do is pump up that loser product of theirs, MAG-10.


I've got two bottles of M-1-T(kilosports and legalgears). I will use M-1-T next May for my next cycle. It really seems to work, but the sides look a little harsh. Just have to adjust accordingly. Just remember people are getting great gains off of it at 10mg a day(70mg a week) as opposed to what I'm taking now, 2350mg a week in 1-test transdermal and 400mg in 1-test cyp a week. Its a different beast altogether.
 
How in the world can anyone get "great gains" off af 70mg of anything a week? I don't think that even 10mg of drol would give a child great gains.

JavaGuru,
You said mg for mg you thought 1-t-cyp to be better than tren. You really got gains at those low doses?

If this stuff is legit, there has to be some research somewhere that shows serum test higher in proportion to dose?? You know real scientific data from a real lab.
 
This is a direct quote from Pat Arnold on M-1-T:

"I am quite confident that it is more toxic then anadrol, anavar, or tren. It is also more potent than these (potency being a function of the activity per milligram)"
 
Sir Foxx said:
I don't know who Skip Lacour is, so if it's an insult, it's lost on me.:mix:

Skip Lacour is an advanced "Natural" Athlete. Many people don't beleive he is natural. Many people who use PH's do so because they feel they can retain there "natural" status which is bullshit.
 
DaddyX said:
i will stick to steroids, not that shit

1-test cyp is a real steroid...methyle test also . it dosent convert to anything

people are gaining 15-10 in 2 weeks from this shit. people are saying that the methyle test is stroger than dbol. many people are cosidering this stuff for legal reasons
 
LOL, check this out:

http://www.musclechemistry.com/showthread/t-19111.html

This guy goes from:
224 lbs with a 34 1/2 inch waist on Aug. 1 to
252 lbs with a 37 3/4 inch waist on Oct. 31

Call me old-fashioned but gaining 28 lbs with over a 3 inch gain in the waist sounds like 100% fat to me.
 
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goto anabolicminds.com and find many threads of people gaining weight with no fat gain. Just because one person reacted that way isn't a reason to knock it. I don't think you can blame his fat gain on it anyway, as 1-Test and M-1-T promote LBM. If Pat Arnold thinks its the real deal, I would listen, and he doesn't have anything to gain by endorsing it. It competes with his 1-AD for sales.

And its not methyl-test its Methyl 1-Test, just so there isn't any confusion.
 
How in the world can anyone get "great gains" off af 70mg of anything a week? I don't think that even 10mg of drol would give a child great gains.

JavaGuru,
You said mg for mg you thought 1-t-cyp to be better than tren. You really got gains at those low doses?

If this stuff is legit, there has to be some research somewhere that shows serum test higher in proportion to dose?? You know real scientific data from a real lab.

Similar gains between 700mg TA and 600mg 1-t-cyp per week. I can't comment on methyl-1-test as I will probably never use it due to toxicity issues.

1-test and methyl-1-test have nothing to do with testosterone, they are simply marketing names. 1-Test is more comparable to Tren if one had to make a comparison. They are likely very suppressive of testosterone levels. There is published research on both using rat assays to predict anabolic/androgenic ratios and both score very high in comparison to testosterone. See "Androgens and Anabolics", Vida et al. You can probably find a posting of the Vida data by searching some of the popular message boards like anabolicminds.
 
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