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anthony518
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DAMN. Kolonopin usually lay me out. I wouldn't lift. Stay up till normal bed time. Then get a good night sleep. Lift tomorrow. Why didn't you sleep? How much bud did you smoke?
anthony518
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shit, kolonipin, and lunesta, and a blunt. I'd be dead.
anyway, why not sleeping?
anyway, why not sleeping?
gabulldogs02
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Still havent answered... why arent you sleeping? What are you using now?
gabulldogs02 said:
im on lunesta and get klonopin as well. i started having sleeping prioblems 2 years ago and have been on shit ever since. dont know why im not sleeping, i just cant. i had a sleep test done and they couldnt figure out what was wrong because i never fell asleep during it.; and now im on a tren/winny/test cycle and its all going to waste because of last nite.
gabulldogs02
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markshark said:
That tren def. is going to make it better. Maybe its anxiety. I had it for 16 months before i figured out what it was. My problem was waking up 2-3 through the night You under any kind of stress from work/ family. Something had to have changed around when that started
gabulldogs02 said:
i just worry everynite that im not gonna sleep because i had such a good workout that day and i know if i dont sleep its all a waste. like yesterday was one of the best workouts ive ahd in a long time, and i thought to myself "if i dont sleep its gonna go to waste" and waht do u know? i didnt sleep.
Only1eagle
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markshark said:
Sounds like your putting yourself into the situation. After you have a solid workout, that night lay in bed and feel the soreness and how tired you are. Go over the workouts in your mind. Think about how you were sweating bullets, and how bad those pumps were.
Dont EVER think about falling asleep.
I would suggest you seek counseling. A shrink could help you mentally as the docs dont seem to think there is a physical problem.
good luck to you!!!
PS (I had problems staying up all night worrying untill I met my wife. Stopped taking sleep meds and sleep wonderfully now with her by my side)
gabulldogs02
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and is that all you think about? I'd seek some counseling. Worrying about sleeping and then if your workout will be a waste cause you dont sleep.. Almost sounds like anxiety.. Worrying and probably overanalyzing everything. I did the same thing you did.. Went to a sleep dr. cause i wasnt staying a sleep and it was ruining my life and relationship. I became irriatable and couldnt eat. Not sleeping will def fuck you up good. Def. go to a counselor. It'll help.
big49ersfan
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dud ei think you should train as hard as you fucking can today fuck the rest just train!!
you are worrying to much if you dont sleep you dont sleep eventually our body will need to rest and then you will on the right pattern.
stop worrying bro it aint a waste get the right nutrition in you etxc it aint a waste
if the sleepin is anissue get some temezpam but it is real addictive but will knock you right out. but you should aim to get of the meds after cycle so you ar weorrying less!!
you taking any ephedrine?
you are worrying to much if you dont sleep you dont sleep eventually our body will need to rest and then you will on the right pattern.
stop worrying bro it aint a waste get the right nutrition in you etxc it aint a waste
if the sleepin is anissue get some temezpam but it is real addictive but will knock you right out. but you should aim to get of the meds after cycle so you ar weorrying less!!
you taking any ephedrine?
JuicedAthletics
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Maybe go light and hit some auxillary bodyparts..(calves, forarms, abs) Bro, you digging yourself into a BIG DEEP WHOLE... Thats HEAVY HEAVY meds you are taking for it not to work.. It seems like you have tried everything medicine wise..
Maybe you could make sure to get off all your stimulants early in the afternoon.. Or just set aside 6-8 hours each night for sleep. Once that 6th or 8th hour hits, get up out of bed and dont lay down till 16-18 hours later. It might be hard for a few nights but eventually your going to get into a pattern.. I would try and cut back on the scripts a little and maybe add in some benedryl or nyquil..
Good Luck to you, thats not a good spot to be in.. But I wouldnt worry about losing your gains.. You'll be fine.. Keep eating and training when you feel up to it.. Rememebr 3 times a week is plenty of gym time..
Maybe you could make sure to get off all your stimulants early in the afternoon.. Or just set aside 6-8 hours each night for sleep. Once that 6th or 8th hour hits, get up out of bed and dont lay down till 16-18 hours later. It might be hard for a few nights but eventually your going to get into a pattern.. I would try and cut back on the scripts a little and maybe add in some benedryl or nyquil..
Good Luck to you, thats not a good spot to be in.. But I wouldnt worry about losing your gains.. You'll be fine.. Keep eating and training when you feel up to it.. Rememebr 3 times a week is plenty of gym time..
justinjones1963
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Maybe hitting the gym real hard will tire you out. Definitely try to get some sleep tonight - and if you decide not to work out don't stress out over it. That will make things worse.
Its All Genetics
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sometimes i think ur like me markshar u over analyze things, funny u and i were running test and deca now werer running tren and test.... i heard tren makes people not be able to sleep at night... let me shar a astory i readmarkshark said:
arnold and franco in the gym they do two sets feel o pump they say fuck it im not gunna train today....no pump im not into it, lets go eat....
so whut man big deal u dont lift one day, there is not point in lifting if ur not into it totaly....now with that being said u better only have on or 2 of those days a week.
Its All Genetics said:
thing is, im in the mood to lift, i just didnt sleep. like shit is starting to kick in and im always amped. im just worried that if i didnt sleep and i lift today ill be fuckin up the muscles i trained yesterday. but i figure ill pop some ephedrine hcl pills, get some energy, lift hard, go on the bike a little and hopefully be wiped by tonite. that way i can take a day or 2 off. i dunno.
Snarling Force
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Markshark just know your not alone bro. I'm in the same boat with you. Sometimes I think I'm going to lose my mind. 2 nights ago I had the same thing. Not a single hour of sleep. I got so pissed off I just drove into work at 5am. I decided to work out anyway and surprisingly, I had a good workout but that might be because I just started my cycle about a week ago and the test is kicking in. I cannot imagine 15mg of lunesta not taking you out. Normally I take 4mg lunesta and a shot of vodka and that puts me down on a bad night. The only real thing that knocks me out is Ambien which at 10mg puts me out in 20 minutes. Unfortunately, I don't have access to it anymore and my fuckin lame insurance won't cover sleep disorders. I have to pay full price for lunesta which sucks. This cycle of insomnia comes and goes though. I'm wondering when this current phase I'm in will end. Good luck to you.
karachi183
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if you feel up to it workout bro! If u feel weak then do cardio stuff ur face and pop some muscle relaxers-aspirin and not xanax and don't smoke. Xany's tend to zone me out and keep me awake and smoking certain herbs can lead to anxiety thus keeping ya up.
BigCracker
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Somebody needs to shoot these Drs for overprescribing these meds to some of you guys. Most of this shit wasn't around 20 yrs ago and nobody was dropping dead then. Why does everyone need it so bad now? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for better living through chemistry. It just seems like the side effects of drugs like Ambien, Xanax, Prozac, etc. greatly outweigh the benefits for most. Does anybody remember when people used to be ashamed of their ailments/anxiety/depression? These days people openly discuss their shrink and RX programs like it's a rite of passage into adulthood.
BigCracker
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markshark said:
It's really not your fault bro-this shit gets pounded up our asses day and night in advertising online, tv, billboards, radio, etc. The Drs want their kickbacks from the big RX companies at the end of the year and we're supposed to trust them???? You'll be OK-just try to mentally harness the same willpower you have to workout and use that strength to overcome your addiction. I kicked a 5 yr, 3+ bottle of Nubain/wk habit last April. It wasn't easy, but I did it. After awhile it's nice not having that monkey on your back. Good luck.
slyder190 said:
i did cardio today instead. but no the klon is no script, i borrow them from people from time to time (which i shouldnt but regular sleep meds dont help as much usually). the only script i get is lunesta. i would love to get a script of xyrem so that i can get my restful sleep every nite but my doc said hes not allowed.
and i probably shouldnt have worked out today but i been eatin like mad to make up for it. its only 540 right now and ive had 6 meals so far. i plan on 3 more and another in the middle ofthe night if i wake up. im hopin consuming these meals will help the catabolism of lack of sleep.
Extra_Strong
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markshark said:
HEY BRO I LIKE WHAT SOMEONE SAID ABOUT THE 10K RUN
BUT ALSO EVERYONE PUTS TO MUCH INTO THE SLEEP THING. SLEEP IS GOOD YES. BUT YOU BODY STILL GROWS AND REPAIRS WITH LITTLE SLEEP.
WHEN YOU SHAVE IN THE MORNING DOES YOUR FACIAL HAIR STILL GROW??
OR DOES IT WAIT TILL YOU ARE ASLEEP BEFORE IT GROWS?
IF YOU CAN TRAIN AND ARE JUST NOT EMOTIONALLY DRAINED TO PUT OUT MUCH EFFERT THEN TRAIN.. HOW MUCH CARDIO DO YOU DO?
big49ersfan
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bro i have suffered form insomnia (weed and alchol have usually doen the drink hehe) but anyway if you dont sleep i havent fuck it, it is only sleep train hard- dont let the sleep win!!
tempest2003
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marijuana, i dont care what yall say, is a big aid in my training. when i come back from working out, I almost always feel sick if i trained hard, so i come home, and smoke a bowl, it really helps with my appetite, a lot, and as long as i can make my self stay away from the munchies im okay, i just eat my real, whole good foods. anyways, i have been worrying about my upcoming tren cycle because last time i couldnt sleep a wink, but that was before i smoked bud, so i should be fine. If you want a healthy way to smoke, get a Vapordoc Vaporizer, around 100 bones, but you'll never taste bud like it when you smoke that way, the first hit is always oh so sweet, it'll taste just like it smells. Anyways, good luck man, nextime smoke the whole blunt, I can smoke a 1g blunt and be out cold and i smoke tough daily. Peace be with you brotha, get some bed.
Extra_Strong said:HEY BRO I LIKE WHAT SOMEONE SAID ABOUT THE 10K RUN
BUT ALSO EVERYONE PUTS TO MUCH INTO THE SLEEP THING. SLEEP IS GOOD YES. BUT YOU BODY STILL GROWS AND REPAIRS WITH LITTLE SLEEP.
WHEN YOU SHAVE IN THE MORNING DOES YOUR FACIAL HAIR STILL GROW??
OR DOES IT WAIT TILL YOU ARE ASLEEP BEFORE IT GROWS?
IF YOU CAN TRAIN AND ARE JUST NOT EMOTIONALLY DRAINED TO PUT OUT MUCH EFFERT THEN TRAIN.. HOW MUCH CARDIO DO YOU DO?
since i got a sprained ankle i do 30 minutes on the bike. bike always worked best for me. doesnt overwork other parts and burns fat all over.
fbodyguy02
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You took all those drugs, and you STILL couldn't fall asleep?! wow. Take the day off and let you body rest. Even though you mind is not tired.. I bet your body is.
gabulldogs02
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IMO youre putting wayy too much shit into your body. I understand not being able to sleep.. Its tough. For some reason i think it goes deeper than just insomnia and theres other things that are messing you up. When you cant fall asleep dont lay in bed and get pissed. Get up and watch for a 30-45 mins and try again. I cant believe these drs are prescribing all these scripts though. Some of these are serious shit. I would just stick to a couple benedryl. Fuck those other two psychs. you went to. I'd go to someone else. I know if i dont get atleast 7-8 hrs of sleep i'm the worst person to be around.
jumpshot
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get off all pharms, stims, alcohol, weed, everything.
If you have to do the gear so be it.
Do cardio every day. Not 15 minutes and quit. Run HIIT sprints and swimming combo's or something that works for you. Whatever it is, make sure you're sweating like a pig and it lasts for a long time.
Start getting up super early, every morning, no exceptions. No coffee, no cokes, no caffeine, no stims. After some time your clock will readjust.
Drugs are not the answer to this riddle my friend. Good luck.
If you have to do the gear so be it.
Do cardio every day. Not 15 minutes and quit. Run HIIT sprints and swimming combo's or something that works for you. Whatever it is, make sure you're sweating like a pig and it lasts for a long time.
Start getting up super early, every morning, no exceptions. No coffee, no cokes, no caffeine, no stims. After some time your clock will readjust.
Drugs are not the answer to this riddle my friend. Good luck.
BigCracker
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One thing I've learned in my 35+ yrs on this planet is that everyone needs to have a close personal friend that is a Dr, another that's a lawyer, and one more that's an auto mechanic. Unless these guys are your close friends, with a personal vested interest in your physical, mental, and financial well being themselves, you're probably gonna be fucked big time.
taste-icles
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man i go through times where i don't sleep more than an hour total in a week. i feel your pain, no drugs i have taaken can put me to sleep 
I always have that sick feeling in my stomach and joint pain, that is a good indicator to lay off the lifting.
I always have that sick feeling in my stomach and joint pain, that is a good indicator to lay off the lifting.
geoboy
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NOOO. The lack of sleep will already be upping the cortisol production, and by adding a workout spike, you'll be throwing wood on the fire. just take a break and get a nites sleep first. the objective is to build/keep muscle, not to workout. working out is the means to an end, not the end in and of itself.
and yeah insomnia sucks, I've battled it my whole life.
and yeah insomnia sucks, I've battled it my whole life.
BigCracker
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jumpshot said:
I'd have to go to rehab to follow that program.
I second that.scout69 said:
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