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Your pick for a $30k out the door coupe

RottenWillow

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My husband is finally going to get his first ever nice car. The man's ever had anything but hoopties. After a fair amount of looking my top suggestion for him is a Nissan Altima coupe SR. His credit is good enough for the 2.9% 60 month financing, which was pretty much the cincher for me. It has good power and nice exterior design. Interior is still a bit low rent looking, but much improved for Nissan.

He's not dead set on a new car though. It could be up to 2 MY's old, as long as it meets the out the door price limit and doesn't require premium gas.

Anybody have any other ideas, new or used?
 
Here's the one we're really eyeballing. Love the color. Crimson Black. $25,500 OTD

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i hate ford but, honestly? can u beat a mustang gt? styling, sound, performance...it has it all, in a fairly economical package.
 
digimon7068 said:
i hate ford but, honestly? can u beat a mustang gt? styling, sound, performance...it has it all, in a fairly economical package.
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ok good suggestion. We hadn't even considered a Mustang. The V-8 is way over the price limit though. I just "built" and found a V-6 model though at a local dealer for what would amount to about $26,300 OTD.

Edit: Wow a nearly new GT at Carmax for under $27k. Talk about poor value holding. We might go check that one out.
 
PICK3 said:
2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Grand Touring w/Brown Leather 2dr Rear-wheel Drive 306 hp 10 speaker Infinity 360 watt stereo FTW!!!

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We liked everything about that one, except the front. It still looks Korean from that angle. In other words kinda goofy. The grand touring definitely had a nice interior though. The brown leather, the quality of the plastics, all nice stuff. That one's still in the running.
 
RottenWillow said:
ok good suggestion. We hadn't even considered a Mustang. The V-8 is way over the price limit though. I just "built" and found a V-6 model though at a local dealer for what would amount to about $26,300 OTD.

Edit: Wow a nearly new GT at Carmax for under $27k. Talk about poor value holding. We might go check that one out.
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i actually got on the ford website (before i answered your quiz) and built a gt with a 6-speed and the standard 5.0 litre and the price before tt&l was $30,495...i'll bet i could find one on a dealer lot and go out the door for under $30k tt&l included, and i wouldn't even have to haggle...plus, i kinda have a feel for what you like vehicularly-speaking and i took that into consideration when i suggested the mustang, on account of i'm kind sweet on you :)
 
digimon7068 said:
i actually got on the ford website (before i answered your quiz) and built a gt with a 6-speed and the standard 5.0 litre and the price before tt&l was $30,495...i'll bet i could find one on a dealer lot and go out the door for under $30k tt&l included, and i wouldn't even have to haggle...plus, i kinda have a feel for what you like vehicularly-speaking and i took that into consideration when i suggested the mustang, on account of i'm kind sweet on you :)
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:lmao: I don't like Mustangs at all. I don't really care for Fords in general (except for the European only, sporting versions of the Focus), but I think my husband would like it ok though.
 
Genesis Coupe was a "bang for your buck" recommendation

Personally, if I had to keep one, I'd prefer the Mustang
 
RottenWillow said:
:lmao: I don't like Mustangs at all. I don't really care for Fords in general (except for the European only, sporting versions of the Focus), but I think my husband would like it ok though.
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off topic ... the 2012 Focus is going to raise the bar in the small car segment

The Fiesta is gaining rave reviews

2011 Ford Fiesta Reviews, Pictures and Prices - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

The Focus is going to be quieter and safer. European it the U.S. Titanium model MSRP $23K !!!!

 
RottenWillow said:
:lmao: I don't like Mustangs at all. I don't really care for Fords in general (except for the European only, sporting versions of the Focus), but I think my husband would like it ok though.
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no...but, you're a motorhead and you love musclecars...i hate fords, but i can certainly enjoy the beauty of a well-engineered factory muscle car...regardless of badging...and so can you...don't even try to lie to me :qt:

oh and, the camaro is butt-ugly and more expensive (comparably equipped) and the challenger is beautiful but more expensive for a comparable model...thus, i chose the mustang :whatever:
 
ortiz34 said:
LOL@ the camaro being ugly

lol@ a mustang
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i'm a gm guy...can't help it...it's the way i was raised...i don't know any better...so, it pains me greatly to say this but, yes, the camaro is phukkin' ugly...that gawddamn smiley face lookin' front end is just...wrong. especially when you look at the challenger and the mustang (especially the new "boss")...they're direct throw-backs and they are quite beautiful.
 
digimon7068 said:
oh and, the camaro is butt-ugly and more expensive (comparably equipped) and the challenger is beautiful but more expensive for a comparable model...thus, i chose the mustang :whatever:
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The Camaro looks like a Tonka Toy. Also, with a low seat, high window sills, and windows like mail slots, you can't see out of the damned thing unless you're 6'5". The Challenger weighs 4100 pounds, there's just no excuse for that. The Mustang is the most user-friendly of the three Pony cars.

For $30K he can get a loaded VW GTI.

If he's hatchback-phobic, thus eliminating the VW, the Honda Civic Si Coupe is a better car than the Altima, for thousands less.
 
chris302001 said:
Find a way to get one of them new fangled Sciroccos!
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Not available in the USA.

In Yoorope, it's actually a few bucks less than a comparably-equipped GTI. Dunno why VW USA won't bring 'em over, if they did I'd have one instead of my GTI.
 
chris302001 said:
the guy who got me into cars in undergrad had one. It was fun!
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Big time
I called them a poor mans Delorean
My obsessions with VW's in my late teens early 20's was pathetic.

I had an 83 Scirocco 8V TOTAL BEATER, loved it though
Second one was a black on black 87 Scirocco 16V valve, tear drop rims

also had a 91 GTI 16 Valve Red/black int
85 Audi GT Couple Red/ Black

Finally I bought a new a 97 VR6 all tricked out, turbo,OZ racing rims, Black on Black (this car was fast and furious way before that shit)
 
digimon7068 said:
i hate ford but, honestly? can u beat a mustang gt? styling, sound, performance...it has it all, in a fairly economical package.
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For some reason I dont like the Nissan 2 door but love the 4 door, weird.

digimon-the 11 mustang gts look great IMO. They did a great job on the front end designing them unlike the previous model. Im partial to Ford/Toyota though.
 
I hate the Altima...out of those named, I'd go with a Mustang. The Civic SI is great for a smaller guy, but I sat in my buddy's SI and it felt too small for me (it also has an MSP of 29,372 when built with the options I'd want).
 
canadianhitman said:
I hate the Altima...out of those named, I'd go with a Mustang. The Civic SI is okay for a smaller guy, but I sat in my buddy's SI and it felt too small for me.
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The problem with the civic is unfortunately Honda is still making I4's with absolutely no torque. What good is 197hp if you have to keep the engine screaming to get decent acceleration?
 
RottenWillow said:
The problem with the civic is unfortunately Honda is still making I4's with absolutely no torque. What good is 197hp if you have to keep the engine screaming to get decent acceleration?
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Having gone from a Honda to two Volkswagens, I think the torque thing is overrated. I had a lot more fun revving out my little CRX than I do lugging around at low RPMs.
 
RottenWillow said:
The problem with the civic is unfortunately Honda is still making I4's with absolutely no torque. What good is 197hp if you have to keep the engine screaming to get decent acceleration?
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I hear ya...that's why I'm an Accord coupe guy...gotta have the V6...but it's out of the price range you stated. Loaded up, it's almost 38k
 
shit this thread was a good idea. Even though I used to have a 335i a few years ago neither of us had even considered a BMW as an option for him. I guess we were thinking of BMW's as being way beyond the limit we set, but a used 328 would work. Normally aspirated V-6 would provide decent power and fuel economy, but also not require premium fuel.
 
I like the sti hatch and the si sedan in that price range. Both run on premium fuel though.
 
RottenWillow said:
shit this thread was a good idea. Even though I used to have a 335i a few years ago neither of us had even considered a BMW as an option for him. I guess we were thinking of BMW's as being way beyond the limit we set, but a used 328 would work. Normally aspirated V-6 would provide decent power and fuel economy, but also not require premium fuel.
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It's an inline six, BMW doesn't make a V6.
 
If your choosing between an Altima and a Mustang GT...the answer is ovbious in my opinion...MUSTANG GT!!! Have you considered a Nissan 350z or 370z? Those are some very nice coupes. You can find decked out 2010's for 30k and a decked out 350z for 20-25k.

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Mr. dB said:
It's an inline six, BMW doesn't make a V6.
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That inline six has been around for a long time with BMW. Absolutely great motor, with enough power for anyones needs and reliability like no other. Mind you thats if you take "preventative" measures beyond an oil change and filling up the washer fluid, lmao.
 
All of this is moot until Mr. Rottenwillow goes out and takes some test drives.
 
Moot would be a comment about the configuration of the six cylinders. Thankfully no one was enough of a gadfly to have done such a thing.
 
RottenWillow said:
Moot would be a comment about the configuration of the six cylinders. Thankfully no one was enough of a gadfly to have done such a thing.
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It's an issue that BMW apparently feels very strongly about. It's not just that they don't make a V6, but that they won't.
 
subaru sti. 305 hp and fun as hell to drive. awd if u live in a wintery place. 4 doors for family purposes or bringing a few ppl around town. come in coupe and hatchback for 2011. i have the coupe in world rally blue. bought nice black 19 inch rims and tinted black windows. looks awesome. u can switch from full awd to 30/70 rear wheel drive and adjust the turbo all while driving. very reliable and awesome warranty
 
CoBra666 said:
subaru sti. 305 hp and fun as hell to drive. awd if u live in a wintery place. 4 doors for family purposes or bringing a few ppl around town. come in coupe and hatchback for 2011. i have the coupe in world rally blue. bought nice black 19 inch rims and tinted black windows. looks awesome. u can switch from full awd to 30/70 rear wheel drive and adjust the turbo all while driving. very reliable and awesome warranty
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Sounds sweet bro, post up a pic. I'm currently in the process of murdering out my 07 mazda6. I love the tinted windows with black rims look, yea man.
 
rottenwillow said:
shit this thread was a good idea. Even though i used to have a 335i a few years ago neither of us had even considered a bmw as an option for him. I guess we were thinking of bmw's as being way beyond the limit we set, but a used 328 would work. Normally aspirated v-6 would provide decent power and fuel economy, but also not require premium fuel.
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bingo!
 
anyone who thinks they can tell the difference between a $30k car and a $100k car is full of shit
 
anyone who thinks they can't tell the difference between a $30k car and a $100k car hasn't been in a $100k car
 
nimbus said:
anyone who thinks they can tell the difference between a $30k car and a $100k car is full of shit
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Not so true my friend. For example, a Ford Expedition compared to a Porsche Cayenne Turbo. You can absolutely tell the difference. You truly get what you pay for. Im definately not advocating that spending a 100k car is better, just stating a fact that there are noticeable differences between the two. First example that comes to mind is driveability and stabilty. I really do not need to explain this. Braking second, and lastly functionality within the control units inside the car are just some basic examples.

I could care less I prefer old muscle cars over anything. It just sounded like comparing laminate flooring to real tile flooring or something. There are real differences.
 
did you really have to use a POS like the Cayenne Turbo as an example? I'm starting to rethink what nimbus said.
 
Just an example of a 100k suv comparing to a 30k suv....my choice would DEF be different...haha

They are ugly as fuc....im partial to BMW great product for the price IMO
 
haha, feel free to argue with eachother until someone who actually catches the reference rolls through
 
Whatever you get, do NOT get an Altima. I just got stuck with a new Altima as a loaner car while my car is in the shop with a slightly blowed-up engine. There is nothing about this car that was made for People Who Like Cars. It's a Buick with different badge on the nose. In fact I bet new Buicks are less Buick-y than this thing.

It floats around like a '70s American car. And it's not because it's a high-mileage beater, this Altima only has 4079 miles on it.
 
Mr. dB said:
Whatever you get, do NOT get an Altima. I just got stuck with a new Altima as a loaner car while my car is in the shop with a slightly blowed-up engine. There is nothing about this car that was made for People Who Like Cars. It's a Buick with different badge on the nose. In fact I bet new Buicks are less Buick-y than this thing.

It floats around like a '70s American car. And it's not because it's a high-mileage beater, this Altima only has 4079 miles on it.
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but it didn't have a slightly blowed-up engine...
 
Has he considered the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR ?
 
RottenWillow said:
Here's the one we're really eyeballing. Love the color. Crimson Black. $25,500 OTD

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For better or worse, he did end up going with an Altima Coupe SR, though not this used one from Carmax.

Nissan is currently offering some extremely competitive interest rates, which was the kicker for this choice. 1 point fricking nine percent for 60 months.

This one definitely has a lower rent looking dash, a louder but-not-in-a-good-way engine, than the Genesis coupe, but he likes it and it's an easy monthly payment.
 
Did you guys ever look into an evo? What's your opinion on them? I'm strongly considering my next car being an Evo MR touring. I need a car that's going to an alternative to an SUV in regards to handling different surfaces. I'm moving to CO sometime soon this is why. So I was thinking something awd and all the reviews have raved about this cars handling on all different surfaces. Ever seen that Top Gear episode when it races to smokers down a mountain.... Bad azz
 
That Top Gear episode with Tanner Foust driving the Evo down the snow trail was pretty cool.
 
Did he get the 6-speed or the CVT? Four or six? The engine in the four-cylinder CVT rental I've got sounds almost exactly like the 1974 Vega my mom had.
 
pdaddyII said:
Did you guys ever look into an evo? What's your opinion on them? I'm strongly considering my next car being an Evo MR touring. I need a car that's going to an alternative to an SUV in regards to handling different surfaces. I'm moving to CO sometime soon this is why. So I was thinking something awd and all the reviews have raved about this cars handling on all different surfaces. Ever seen that Top Gear episode when it races to smokers down a mountain.... Bad azz
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Mitsu = POS

Gayu Eusegi, Mitsubishi’s Global Product Director, recently stated that the Evo series will be discontinued, as the model does not fit the company's future eco-orientated development strategy.

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Josh wasn't at all interested in the Subie. I like them a lot, but it's his car though, so his choice. He got CVT Altima. We both were biased towards a manual, but it turned out to be very short throw and he had a lot of trouble differentiating 1st and 3rd. Plus the clutch take up was pretty abrupt and he kept breaking it loose on take off. The CVT was actually pretty sweet. Snapped off super fast, but not overly hard, shifts and did a very good job of managing the torque on take off.
 
billfred said:
Infiniti FTW. Should have chimed in earlier. Driving my first Infiniti now and it is the nicest ride I have had and I have some pretty sweet rides.
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Infiniti G37 would be the uber bomb, but the monthly payment just too big. You'd have to go back three MY's to find one under 30k OTD and with acceptable (20K) mileage. Even then we're talking APR in the high fives at 60 months which runs the payment over $550 a month. Just too much unfortunately.

In related news, actually I just drove my aunt's 2011 7 speed G37 yesterday evening. OMFG so fucking sweet. That automatic rivals Mercedes. Very, very slick. The last 37 I rode in was an '08 Josh test drove a month ago and though it was very nice, the new ones are a whole nother level of awesomenity.
 
RottenWillow said:
Josh wasn't at all interested in the Subie. I like them a lot, but it's his car though, so his choice. He got CVT Altima. We both were biased towards a manual, but it turned out to be very short throw and he had a lot of trouble differentiating 1st and 3rd. Plus the clutch take up was pretty abrupt and he kept breaking it loose on take off. The CVT was actually pretty sweet. Snapped off super fast, but not overly hard, shifts and did a very good job of managing the torque on take off.
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After a week in this Altima rental car, I'd take a Civic over it any day.

I hope Josh enjoys his new car, but the 2.5S sedan hasn't grown on me one bit.
 
RottenWillow said:
Infiniti G37 would be the uber bomb, but the monthly payment just too big. You'd have to go back three MY's to find one under 30k OTD and with acceptable (20K) mileage. Even then we're talking APR in the high fives at 60 months which runs the payment over $550 a month. Just too much unfortunately.

In related news, actually I just drove my aunt's 2011 7 speed G37 yesterday evening. OMFG so fucking sweet. That automatic rivals Mercedes. Very, very slick. The last 37 I rode in was an '08 Josh test drove a month ago and though it was very nice, the new ones are a whole nother level of awesomenity.
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I have the 11 QX56. Sometimes you forget you are driving in a car. If it just wasn't for the fuel issue - it is a thirsty bitch.
 
PICK3 said:
cuz it's built in Messico :mexican:

j/k

Fusion is a fine auto!
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I drove it for two weeks before I realized it was a fake stick-shift as well. My Jeep was a manual - I was pumped to find this out. I'm a smart girl mostly - but whoa, I missed that.
 
Rachel...lol said:
I drove it for two weeks before I realized it was a fake stick-shift as well. My Jeep was a manual - I was pumped to find this out. I'm a smart girl mostly - but whoa, I missed that.
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fake stick :confused:

going from a Jeep to a fusion is a hell of a switch

were you looking for better economy?

btw, HR drove a Fusion :)
 
nice

actually I went down in fuel economy - I went from a Jeep Patriot - 4 cylinder, to the Fusion SE - 31mpg to <25mpg. I was looking for a smoother ride ;)
 
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