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These guys are on Sauce watch now!

i dont think that shit in branch warren's chest is veins he got some kinda fucked up parasite takin over his body
 
Do you think we could use safe levels of AAS and get pro like that?

or do we have to totally over do the shit like 2000mgs+/week ?
 
alot of it all but intelligently applied

at this point its whoever has the best genetics combined with the smartest approach.
 
Do you think we could use safe levels of AAS and get pro like that?

or do we have to totally over do the shit like 2000mgs+/week ?
lol is that it
 
Do you think we could use safe levels of AAS and get pro like that?

or do we have to totally over do the shit like 2000mgs+/week ?



I always find it amusing that people think pros are pros because they do more juice than everybody else.

Believe me, there are guys on this board who do as much as most of these guys.


IT AIN'T ABOUT THE DOSAGES, IT'S ABOUT THE GENETICS.

Of course, today's guys use lots of designer stuff as well -- GH, IGF, etc. It's also why they all kinda look the same.
 
I always find it amusing that people think pros are pros because they do more juice than everybody else.

Believe me, there are guys on this board who do as much as most of these guys.


IT AIN'T ABOUT THE DOSAGES, IT'S ABOUT THE GENETICS.

Of course, today's guys use lots of designer stuff as well -- GH, IGF, etc. It's also why they all kinda look the same.

ur absolutely right man , i tried mega dosing before by curiosity to see if i'll break my genetics limits and plateau and had nothing more than lot of sides , 2 grams of test was like 750mg plus more sides and a lot more shutdown i even had more compounds with passed the 2 grams of total steroids but my gains stalled anyway, and that's what ended me on hrt, i learned from this board how to blast with moderate doses a couple of times a year and maintaining it all year round.
 
agreed

apparently the lighting was off vs last year i just read
so Jay while in similar condition did not look like that MD pic we saw last year

but when you se the you tube vid he looks great
 
lol i know jay had them going
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and of course dorian
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genetics isnt as big of a factor as people think

although it obviosly does does play a part

So you're saying that as long as someone trains hard enough and takes enough drugs they can be a Mr. Olympia contender? Not so.

I'm not sure what your point of the pictures were other than they both had GREAT genetics. How many 15 year olds already have that frame? And by genetics, it isn't just a great foundation. It's the ability to put on muscle and even the ability to respond to drugs. Some guys take 2 dbol and grow like a weed. Others do 2 grams and look pretty ordinary.

I thing I will agree on is the fact that too many people use genetics as an excuse before they even know what they're capable of.
 
Surely though, Nelson, there could be two people with the same genetics.. the one that uses more drugs would grow better, yes?
 
Surely though, Nelson, there could be two people with the same genetics.. the one that uses more drugs would grow better, yes?

That's usually true. Then again, I'll go with the guy who trains better over the guy who uses more drugs.
 
That's usually true. Then again, I'll go with the guy who trains better over the guy who uses more drugs.

Me too.. but we're talking world's greatest here..

Maybe the winner is not using the most juice.. but surely he is using doses that run great risks, yes?

There's no 300-500mgs of test on that stage..

I'd say over a gram, to be sure.. regardless of genetics and training.. maybe?

I'd like to compete some.. but have always sworn I'd never do anything that puts me in real danger.. I'd be willing to hang in the 1g area, though.. I believe that is manageable.
 
by my calculations there is no need to go past 2 grams EVER a week

and if they are they doing it wrong lol
 
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