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- Thread starter RADAR
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I just noticed, Endoamp has some of the ingredients in BRIDGE.
Mildly suppressive isn't bad! So as mentioned, use SARMS with discretion. It's not a full-time free ride.
Between bridge and unleashed and gear and BIG BLAST, guys can stay jacked without suppression. Again, SARMS is pretty great stuff. But understand its purpose.
Mildly suppressive isn't bad! So as mentioned, use SARMS with discretion. It's not a full-time free ride.
Between bridge and unleashed and gear and BIG BLAST, guys can stay jacked without suppression. Again, SARMS is pretty great stuff. But understand its purpose.
You're 58? How long do you go in between cycles?
This is good advice to these kids who want to go on HRT at 30.
I went on HRT at 45. And if I had products like BRIDGE, HCGenerate and UNLEASHED back then, I probably could have held off until I was at least 50.
needtogetaas
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Truthfully lets face facts. Radar you are older then the hills bro and I would say you need hrt anyway lol..
truckdaddy
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3 wks after SARMS,shows i'm mildly suppressed, there are 2 factors to consider,either i need HRT because i never ran none or sarms is mildly suppressive, whichever both can be corrected by the following
I think being 58 will mildly suppress you
I have had no suppression while on s4. I just ordered some saliva test kits from PP. Me and a buddy from the gym are planning on doing before and after test.
I will be making a thread.
Thanks RADAR!
needtogetaas
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I like me some hcgenerate and forma-stanzol oooooooooooooo
RADAR
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I run 2 cycles a year,longer than most people,did i mention that i loveee TEST?
Right now just started a Dbol cycle (again) will be adding Test in may or early june.
RADAR
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Stryker1992
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Gee ,thanks for noticing
Bro, at that age you need to stay slightly suppressed to keep your balls from dragging on the ground!!!
hahahaha
love it!
EliteFitnessGuy
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I think being 58 will mildly suppress you
I have had no suppression while on s4. I just ordered some saliva test kits from PP. Me and a buddy from the gym are planning on doing before and after test.
I will be making a thread.
Thanks RADAR!
Do you have any numbers? A bloodwork done? I would also like to know Radar's numbers. Did he measure his testosterone levels before the S-4 cycle?
Stryker1992
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folderslide
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bump for numbers
RADAR
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Hold on Nancy, i'm looking,i misplaced it, i remember sending it to someone in pm and can't find that one either,numbers will go up as soon as i find it.
RADAR
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heres part of it
Lipid panel ---in range/out of range reference guide
Triglycerides 102 <150 mg/dl
Cholesterol Total 184 125-200 mg/dl
HDL 54 > or = 40 mg/dl
LDL 123 < 130 mg/dl (calc)
Cholesterol/HDLC ratio 4.4 < or = 5.0 (calc)
testosterone Total 178 L 241-827 ng/dl
PSA Total 0.3 < or = 4.0 ng/dl
For some reason he did not check Free test ,that kinna pissed me off
Lipid panel ---in range/out of range reference guide
Triglycerides 102 <150 mg/dl
Cholesterol Total 184 125-200 mg/dl
HDL 54 > or = 40 mg/dl
LDL 123 < 130 mg/dl (calc)
Cholesterol/HDLC ratio 4.4 < or = 5.0 (calc)
testosterone Total 178 L 241-827 ng/dl
PSA Total 0.3 < or = 4.0 ng/dl
For some reason he did not check Free test ,that kinna pissed me off
RADAR
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I Was Expecting SHBG
DJLegacy2k1
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Im 25 years old and SARMS screwed with my sex drive, made my guys smaller, and yet people keep telling me "I must be wrong". SARMS is supressive to some degree, period, my use, RADARs use, and all medical studies show shutdown to some degree. I wish people would stop arguing this fact.
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DJLegacy2k1
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Yeah, it dried me out a little which made me seem leaner and muscle soreness wasn't as bad the day after lifting, but I didnt see ANY amazing body recomp and my diet was reviewed and set by several members here and was incredibly clean. I don't know, Im not sold on it, especially since there are at least 3 other SARMS in testing that showed better results on muscle and bone growth than S4. Good luck to anyone else that wants to try it tho, please log your unbiased feelings, I look forward to reading more logs.
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truckdaddy
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Its easy to argue man, there is no suppression. There are blood test all over the net that show this.
Go play with hard juice for a while...you will realize just how bad ass sarms is and you will be back.
Radar is a 59 year old man that runs two long cycles a year. hell yeah he is going to be a little suppression.
I just took a ZRT saliva test today before I took my first dose of s4. I will take another and we will see what happens.
I will be documenting the whole process in a thread.
truckdaddy
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If you didnt get any body recomp, your either lying or your diet is shit. Say what you want about s4, but it will change the way you look. It will make you stronger and it will cut recovery time.
My buddy who is a fat ass is taking s4 and a thermo for his upcoming weeding....and I can already see his body changing.
DJLegacy2k1
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Oddly, I have had numerous convos with people that have all reported shutdown and no results as well, If i get consent from some of the members I will report some of the discussions via PM and other methods. These are all people with no links to the sarms industry or any promotional aspects either. Anyone who argues the scientific studies, and numerous people reporting shutdown and issues, or lack of results, are obviously ignoring these things for a reason.
I will leave this thread alone because the facts are continuously ignored by some individuals and I dont want this thread to turn into a debate which will lead nowhere.
-Legacy
DJLegacy2k1
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Dude, Im 25 years old, my diet was set by respected members of this board, I play basketball 4 to 5 days a week, along with 4-5 days of lifting. I dont drink alcohol, I dont smoke...Stop attacking anyone that thinks SARMS is weak especially for $150. The medical studies back this information as well as numerous reports on this board and other of people not really getting much out of sarms.
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RADAR
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You are entitled to your opinion,Sarms started changing my body composition even before it started back training, so i took a little bit longer layoff to see where this would take me, i was impressed. Just as some don't respond well to tren ,deca or whatever,you have to decide if sarms is right for you.
DJLegacy2k1
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See this is why I like RADAR, he doesnt ATTACK people that don't agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to tell their results. I don't attack people that don't agree with certain products and tell them their diet and training is bunk...thats just ridiculous.
Just like you quote that "people haven't had shutdown and great results" doesn't mean that you can ignore the fact that not everyone has seen those results and then to resort to bashing the people and not admitting maybe the product isnt a miracle drug for everyone.
-Legacy
truckdaddy
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I love RADAR and I have been a fan of your posts as well, I have just noticed that you have been throwing jabs in most of the sarms threads as of late... I haven't spoke to one person that didn't get something out of sarms out of sarms, most people seem to be going back for more, so it leads me to believe that maybe you didn't have your diet dialed in or something.
Do you have a picture of your self you could post, would you be comfortable doing do? I have no problem doing so.
RADAR is a 59 years old and he is going to be mildly suppressed by father time. There are people recovering during PCT while on s4 and thats just the truth.
DJLegacy2k1
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That's fine and I understand that for someone SARMS may take them from 15% bf to 9% and give them strength and recovery that is great and Im glad it worked out so well for them. Im not arguing that SARMS may work for some, I just hate when someone says "SARMS didnt do this or do that" and people jump on them like they are liars. Just stop telling people they are WRONG and just say "sorry it didnt work for you", just accept maybe SARMS wont be GREAT for everyone, just like some AAS doesn't work the same for some people. Some people have told me via PM that they are worried posting negative reviews because they feel that their thread will be hijacked or they will need to defend their self, since it is a sponsor product. If they will allow me to share their PMs, I will gladly do so.
All Im asking for is acceptance when some people don't get the same results and decide to share them, instead of attacking that person.
-Legacy
RADAR
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As long as i'm a mod here people will be allowed to speak their opinion of products openly and freely no matter how much they hated the product.
but to continuously bash a product is another thing.
And get it right next time the number is "58"
DJLegacy2k1
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Exactly, I have never told anyone to NOT try sarms for themselves as I would never tell them not to try any other substance because everyone will get different results with so many variables.
radar, you said 68? bwhahahaha
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DJLegacy2k1
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Sadly, the one person that told me that, also told me they were running test and tren, so to each his own.
Here to be fair, I still have 4 to 6 weeks left in a bottle...I'll start it back up as soon as im over this cold I have and reevaluate.
-Legacy
Carlito B
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Well said.
Not everyone responds the same. I could run 200mg Deca per week with nothing else for 8 weeks and make incredible progress, you would think I am on a 2 grams/week of test 20ius of GH /day protocol...I just respond very well to Deca not sure why.
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