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1ST injectabe cycle - opinions needed BULKING

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Tarasov87

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I want to do my first injectable cycle, I've done 2 oral cycles, they both were Dbol at 50mg ed, for 5 weeks, each.



My current stats are:

Height: 1,86m - 6.1 feet
Weight: 140kg - 308 pounds
Age: 22
BF: it's high, don't know exactly, and don't really care




I want to do a cycle for strength and mass, I don't care about raising bf.

Please give me your suggestion for a good bulking cycle and PCT, having in mind I can't keep pregnyl in the fridge for more than a few days, so I can't do it during the cycle, and will have to do it in the end.
 
Bulking at that weight/bodyfat% would be bad for your health. also its much harder to add muscle when you are obese because 1. studies show myostatin levels are significantly increased in obese individuals 2. You will have higher estrogen levels because aromatase is produced in fat cells.

The drugs you use don't decide if your cycle is a bulk or a cut but your diet and training do.

Are you trying gain weight/strength for a sport or what are you reasons for wanting to stay at a high BF%
 
Bulking at that weight/bodyfat% would be bad for your health. also its much harder to add muscle when you are obese because 1. studies show myostatin levels are significantly increased in obese individuals 2. You will have higher estrogen levels because aromatase is produced in fat cells.

The drugs you use don't decide if your cycle is a bulk or a cut but your diet and training do.

Are you trying gain weight/strength for a sport or what are you reasons for wanting to stay at a high BF%

I dont compete in bodybuilding contests, i do WHEIGHTLIFTING im my country in a amateur level by now...
 
I dont compete em bodybuilding contests, i do halterofilism im my country in a amateur level by now...

Since i'm a semi pro artist i know what that is ,so whats the connection to steroids?

Regardless you need to get in shape before doing another cycle, Steroids Raises Blood Pressure, raises Cholorestrol levels, and taxes the liver & heart.

The Best thig you can do at the moment is Cardio, Learn to eat healthy,
Heres a copy (again) from one of my other posts

You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some Protein in each.You're either dedicated or your not, You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.

White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.

Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.

Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.

Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.

Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.

Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.

Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.

Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.

Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran

Wheatgerm

Barley

Maize

Buckwheat

Cornmeal

Oatmeal



The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.


Pasta

Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice

Potatoes

Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads

Granary bread

Brown bread

Pitta bread

Bagel

Wholegrain cereals

High fiber breakfast cereals

Porridge oats

All bran

Wheetabix

Shredded wheat

Ryvita crispbread

Muesli

Cassava

Corn
Yam

Oatcakes

Peas

Beans

Lentils

For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples

Blackberries

Blackcurrants

Cherry

Cranberries

Grapefruit

Kiwi

Lemon

Melon

Oranges

Peach

Pear

Plum

Raspberries

Strawberries

Grapes

Raisins







RADAR
 
I train for 10 years now, my snatch is at 160kg and my clean and jerk is at 197.5kg, i don´t need meal planing.

Yeah...You apparently do and if you dont WANT meal planning then no one here is going to take you seriously when talking about DRUG use. If your body fat is too high can run into all types of health problems and risk much high estrogen related problems as well.

I wouldn't advise you come onto he board and start telling people what you THINK you do and don't need. No one on this board is just going to CO-SIGN your idea and tell you its a good plan when it isnt.

K, thanks
-Legacy
 
Yeah...You apparently do and if you dont WANT meal planning then no one here is going to take you seriously when talking about DRUG use. If your body fat is too high can run into all types of health problems and risk much high estrogen related problems as well.

I wouldn't advise you come onto he board and start telling people what you THINK you do and don't need. No one on this board is just going to CO-SIGN your idea and tell you its a good plan when it isnt.

K, thanks
-Legacy



my bf is around 20%-25%, its not that fucking high, at 120kg i have a 6pack
 
Yeah...You apparently do and if you dont WANT meal planning then no one here is going to take you seriously when talking about DRUG use. If your body fat is too high can run into all types of health problems and risk much high estrogen related problems as well.

I wouldn't advise you come onto he board and start telling people what you THINK you do and don't need. No one on this board is just going to CO-SIGN your idea and tell you its a good plan when it isnt.

K, thanks
-Legacy

Agreed!I already told you what steroids will do to your health.

I guess you will find out the hard way sooner or later.
I'll get down from my soapbox now!


Cheers!
 
my bf is around 20%-25%, its not that fucking high, at 120kg i have a 6pack

You have 25% bf and a 6-pack...Sigh...*smh* Neways, 1/4 of your total body weight is FAT and you think thats not high? Remember your organs make up most of that other weight, so muscle is only a part. If 1/4 of your body is FAT, you need to check your diet for HEALTH issues if nothing else.

-Legacy
 
You have 77lbs of fat AT LEAST of your body with those measurements, yet you think you are not THAT fat, not THAT unhealthy, and you claim to have a 6 pack? Of beer? Or is that visceral fat trying to push and rip out of your body? Dude, if you do a cycle of nething right now, you may very well die...end of story. Any questions?

-Legacy
 
You have 77lbs of fat AT LEAST of your body with those measurements, yet you think you are not THAT fat, not THAT unhealthy, and you claim to have a 6 pack? Of beer? Or is that visceral fat trying to push and rip out of your body? Dude, if you do a cycle of nething right now, you may very well die...end of story. Any questions?

-Legacy


all right einstein, at least, i fuck nice girls, and you?
 
all right einstein, at least, i fuck nice girls, and you?

LOL, are we going to play the who's "you know what" is bigger game? Not something I will take part in on this board, because that is not what this board is for...but we will just say that due to my profession (read my name), Im might put up a fight *rolls eyes*

Neways, when you want to talk to us in a mature fashion please feel free to come back and talk to us. Until then, unless your change your attitude I doubt you will be getting much help from all of the EXPERIENCED bros on this site.

-Legacy
 
LOL, are we going to play the who's "you know what" is bigger game? Not something I will take part in on this board, because that is not what this board is for...but we will just say that due to my profession (read my name), Im might put up a fight *rolls eyes*

Neways, when you want to talk to us in a mature fashion please feel free to come back and talk to us. Until then, unless your change your attitude I doubt you will be getting much help from all of the EXPERIENCED bros on this site.

-Legacy


Legacy to you too DJeatshit
 
Я ХОЧУ ВАС ВСЕ УМЕРЕТЬ, ВЫ ВСЕ ТУПЫ КАК ДЕРЬМО

lol i speak Russian, thats not a nice thing to say.

We are trying to help you, If you want to be successful in Olympic weightlifting then yes steroids are required, but so is a good diet and a healthy body. If you dont care about your diet then there is no chance of you being successful in your sport.

If you live in a former USSR country then i bet you have a fairly high fat intake. If you take those fat calories and replace them with carbs and protein you will see strength gains and faster recovery as well as improved health.
 
lol i speak Russian, thats not a nice thing to say.

We are trying to help you, If you want to be successful in Olympic weightlifting then yes steroids are required, but so is a good diet and a healthy body. If you dont care about your diet then there is no chance of you being successful in your sport.

If you live in a former USSR country then i bet you have a fairly high fat intake. If you take those fat calories and replace them with carbs and protein you will see strength gains and faster recovery as well as improved health.


And why they think that im not care about my diet? Its because my 140kg? i sonner or later im doing about 220 230kg of clean and jerk, you know what is this? I follow a diet made by my coatch, but unfortunately whem the talk is about EA´s hes simply dont care... and yes, my country is Russia
 
can you post your diet, I think having 15-20% bodyfat is fine if you are a superheavyweight weightlifter and its going to improve your strength being at that bodyfat but you are already at 20% bodyfat and if you do a steroid cycle without attention to diet you will put on too much fat and get could face health problems.

If i was in your situation i would do a cycle but my goal would be to lose some bodyfat during the cycle. You can still add muscle and strength even when losing fat because you are young and inexperienced with aas.

Why does your coach not want to talk about aas?
 
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