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black conservatives take racial heat for supporting tea partying

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Black conservative tea party backers take heat

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - They've been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president.
"I've been told I hate myself. I've been called an Uncle Tom. I've been told I'm a spook at the door," said Timothy F. Johnson, chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, a group of black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black—or that most tea partyers are white—should have nothing to do with it, they say.

"You have to be honest and true to yourself. What am I supposed to do, vote Democratic just to be popular? Just to fit in?" asked Clifton Bazar, a 45-year-old New Jersey freelance photographer and conservative blogger.

Opponents have branded the tea party as a group of racists hiding behind economic concerns—and reports that some tea partyers were lobbing racist slurs at black congressmen during last month's heated health care vote give them ammunition.

But these black conservatives don't consider racism representative of the movement as a whole—or race a reason to support it.

Angela McGlowan, a black congressional candidate from Mississippi, said her tea party involvement is "not about a black or white issue."

"It's not even about Republican or Democrat, from my standpoint," she told The Associated Press. "All of us are taxed too much."

Still, she's in the minority. As a nascent grassroots movement with no registration or formal structure, there are no racial demographics available for the tea party movement; it's believed to include only a small number of blacks and Hispanics.

Some black conservatives credit President Barack Obama's election—and their distaste for his policies—with inspiring them and motivating dozens of black Republicans to plan political runs in November.

For black candidates like McGlowan, tea party events are a way to reach out to voters of all races with her conservative message.

"I'm so proud to be a part of this movement! I want to tell you that a lot of people underestimate you guys," the former national political commentator for Fox News told the cheering crowd at a tea party rally in Nashville, Tenn., in February.

Tea party voters represent a new model for these black conservatives—away from the black, liberal Democratic base located primarily in cities, and toward a black and white conservative base that extends into the suburbs.

Black voters have overwhelmingly backed Democratic candidates, support that has only grown in recent years. In 2004, presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry won 88 percent of the black vote; four years later, 95 percent of black voters cast ballots for Obama.

Black conservatives don't want to have to apologize for their divergent views.

"I've gotten the statement, 'How can you not support the brother?'" said David Webb, an organizer of New York City's Tea Party 365, Inc. movement and a conservative radio personality.

Since Obama's election, Webb said some black conservatives have even resorted to hiding their political views.

"I know of people who would play the (liberal) role publicly, but have their private opinions," he said. "They don't agree with the policy but they have to work, live and exist in the community ... Why can't we speak openly and honestly if we disagree?"

Among the 37 black Republicans running for U.S. House and Senate seats in November is Charles Lollar of Maryland's 5th District.

A tea party supporter running against House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., Lollar says he's finding support in unexpected places.

The 38-year-old U.S. Marine Corps reservist recently walked into a bar in southern Maryland decorated with a Confederate flag. It gave his wife Rosha pause.

"I said, 'You know what, honey? Many, many of our Southern citizens came together under that flag for the purpose of keeping their family and their state together,'" Lollar recalled. "The flag is not what you're to fear. It's the stupidity behind the flag that is a problem. I don't think we'll find that in here. Let's go ahead in."

Once inside, they were treated to a pig roast, a motorcycle rally—and presented with $5,000 in contributions for his campaign.

McGlowan, one of three GOP candidates in north Mississippi's 1st District primary, seeks a seat held since 2008 by Democrat Travis Childers. The National Republican Congressional Committee has supported Alan Nunnelee, chairman of the state Senate Appropriations Committee, who is also pursuing tea party voters.

McGlowan believes the tea party movement has been unfairly portrayed as monolithically white, male and middle-aged, though she acknowledged blacks and Hispanics are a minority at most events.

Racist protest signs at some tea party rallies and recent reports by U.S. Reps. John Lewis, D-Ga., and Barney Frank, D-Mass., that tea partyers shouted racial and anti-gay slurs at them have raised allegations of racism in the tea party movement.

Black members of the movement say it is not inherently racist, and some question the reported slurs. "You would think—something that offensive—you would think someone got video of it," Bazar, the conservative blogger, said.

"Just because you have one nut case, it doesn't automatically equate that you've got an organization that espouses (racism) as a sane belief," Johnson said.

Hilary Shelton, director of the Washington bureau of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, suggested a bit of caution.

"I'm sure the reason that (black conservatives) are involved is that from an ideological perspective, they agree," said Shelton. "But when those kinds of things happen, it is very important to be careful of the company that you keep."

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So let's see, the tea party is racist cause it doesn't have many black faces, but those black faces that do attend are racially attacked.

also imagine if teabaggers was a rightwing term lobbed at the left...def would be screaming about how the right is homophobic.
such hypocrisy, obvious who the real racists are
 
I'd like to see Obama make an executive order and withhold all earnings to all politicians for a year to show that THEY are serious about saving money. Hell, even a month would tickle me pink.

As to the tea baggers, i'm all for them. They almost represent a thirn party. Something i feel the U.S. needs, hell, even a fourth or fifth party. And no, right now the Green party doesn't count... At least in my eyes, but they are getting closer.

Whiskey
 
I was all set to read that whole article but as soon as I read "spook at the door" it was over. I'm still cackling as I write this. It's one of those things I'm going to have to txt my friends later with....we're all about new racial epithets. We couldn't stop calling each other "turkey" for a few weeks after that video of the fight between the old white dude and the black guy.
 
Some teabaggers are racists, but not all teabaggers are racists. However, all EF'ers are...
 
It is amazing to me how quickly people are giving-up their liberties. The tea party guys may very well be our last hope.
 
Whiskey;9363541[SIZE=7 said:
]I'd like to see Obama make an executive order and withhold all earnings to all politicians for a year to show that THEY are serious about saving money. Hell, even a month would tickle me pink.[/SIZE]

As to the tea baggers, i'm all for them. They almost represent a thirn party. Something i feel the U.S. needs, hell, even a fourth or fifth party. And no, right now the Green party doesn't count... At least in my eyes, but they are getting closer.

Whiskey
fuck ya but never going t happen. The thought of giving up even a penny to them fucks on capital hill makes there nuts shrivel . Fuck all parties they are all crooks and all parties are fucking us in the ass without lube. The sooner people like aap and mrplunk stop fighting the poetical war and start thinking about the heart of America again we might have a chance.

dems vs rep is a fucking show they put on to keep you eyes of the real ass fucking we are all getting from government as a whole. If you cant see it you are the dumbest mother fucker on earth.
 
fuck ya but never going t happen. The thought of giving up even a penny to them fucks on capital hill makes there nuts shrivel . Fuck all parties they are all crooks and all parties are fucking us in the ass without lube. The sooner people like aap and mrplunk stop fighting the poetical war and start thinking about the heart of America again we might have a chance.

dems vs rep is a fucking show they put on to keep you eyes of the real ass fucking we are all getting from government as a whole. If you cant see it you are the dumbest mother fucker on earth.

I gotta agree with this. And I support term limits and no retirement and benefits once they're done. Let the career politicians GTFO and get their asses a real fuckin job. Two terms max, any position. You were a senator for one term and you want a retirement and benefits for life? Fuck you!
 
I gotta agree with this. And I support term limits and no retirement and benefits once they're done. Let the career politicians GTFO and get their asses a real fuckin job. Two terms max, any position. You were a senator for one term and you want a retirement and benefits for life? Fuck you!
one problem with that CEO. Did you know they only have to serve 1 term yes 1 term and they get a pension for life



From serving 1 term in congress they have made it so they get paid for the rest of there fucking lives. Yes I served 4 years in the us army got blown the fuck up and I am lucky to get 10% pay from it. How you fucking like that? government is fucked and people need to pick up there pitch forks soon.
 
one problem with that CEO. Did you know they only have to serve 1 term yes 1 term and they get a pension for life



From serving 1 term in congress they have made it so they get paid for the rest of there fucking lives. Yes I served 4 years in the us army got blown the fuck up and I am lucky to get 10% pay from it. How you fucking like that? government is fucked and people need to pick up there pitch forks soon.

I know. That's why I say term limits and no pension/retirement/benefits afterwards. Once they are done they are done!

I should make a run for congress or senate. Just keep trying every year, till I get it...then I'm set for life!!

Absolutely fucked up. They are all in it for themselves. Not one politician actually really gives a damn about the people. They care about getting elected and re-elected, special interest money/perks, etc.

We should shoot them all and start all over. Put the fear of god into the next batch of them.
 
I know. That's why I say term limits and no pension/retirement/benefits afterwards. Once they are done they are done!

I should make a run for congress or senate. Just keep trying every year, till I get it...then I'm set for life!!

Absolutely fucked up. They are all in it for themselves. Not one politician actually really gives a damn about the people. They care about getting elected and re-elected, special interest money/perks, etc.

We should shoot them all and start all over. Put the fear of god into the next batch of them.
we all need to march on congress, all of us.
 
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson
 
The job of politicians, is for me, as a business owner - to make as much money as possible. Otherwise I take my business to another country.

That's who they serve: Corporate America. Been like that forever. They love to put on a show to make you dumbasses thinmk they actually care about you. ha!

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The job of politicians, is for me, as a business owner - to make as much money as possible. Otherwise I take my business to another country.

That's who they serve: Corporate America. Been like that forever. They love to put on a show to make you dumbasses thinmk they actually care about you. ha!

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Read that sentence again. Sounds like you are saying the job of politicians is to make as much money as possible.

However, I am pretty sure that you meant that it is politicians' jobs to make sure business owners (people like you) make as much money as possible. And, the only way they can (or should be able to) affect that is to tax you as little as possible.

To that I do agree, but obviously that's too narrow of a scope. There is more to their jobs than just catering to businesses.
 
There is more to their jobs than just catering to businesses.

oh yeah. and also to make america safe, so you can go to work safely for your masters, i mean bosses :)

btw: this isn't bad except for the lying part. Capitalism is what created this powerful nation.

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Capitalism is what created this powerful nation.

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and unfortunately what's ruining it. Although what's happening in this country is more of a function of humans than it is about a form of economics. We're not responsible enough as a society to enact capitalism.
 
and unfortunately what's ruining it. Although what's happening in this country is more of a function of humans than it is about a form of economics. We're not responsible enough as a society to enact capitalism.

Capialism isn't what's ruining it. Greed is.

Kinda like saying money is the root of all evil. Nah, it's the love of money.
 
and unfortunately what's ruining it. Although what's happening in this country is more of a function of humans than it is about a form of economics. We're not responsible enough as a society to enact capitalism.

Yeah, the non-capitalist models have all done so well.
 
Yeah, the non-capitalist models have all done so well.


Vietnam hasn't done too bad for itself...remember that little shit hole we JUST HAD to invade 30 odd years ago? They're not perfect, but their stable and have adopted alot of free market principles "slowly" and on their own terms. Maybe one day they will be a full blown capitalist society.....but they will have gotten that way by being socialist first. That's what Marx had in mind by the way....something capitalists don't like to share. His utopian society was a completely free market one...but in his opinion, you couldn't get there without having a socialist base first. History will more than likely prove him right....at least if things continue as they are.
 
Vietnam hasn't done too bad for itself...remember that little shit hole we JUST HAD to invade 30 odd years ago? They're not perfect, but their stable and have adopted alot of free market principles "slowly" and on their own terms. Maybe one day they will be a full blown capitalist society.....but they will have gotten that way by being socialist first. That's what Marx had in mind by the way....something capitalists don't like to share. His utopian society was a completely free market one...but in his opinion, you couldn't get there without having a socialist base first. History will more than likely prove him right....at least if things continue as they are.

LOL at Vietnam comparison. What a paradise.

Please provide a link to Marx writing that his utopian society was a completely free market one. This should be interesting.
 
We're not responsible enough as a society to enact capitalism.

I'll counter with this: we're not responsible enough as a society to enact socialism. There are simply too many lazy parasites who'd rather milk the system than work hard and contribute to it. When that happens, those that are working hard see the leeches sucking the system dry and lose motivation to work so hard to support parasites. Socialism only works when the VAST majority of the population is a productive member of society. It doesn't work when you have generations of welfare bums by the hundreds of thousands, and illegals who don't pay taxes by the millions.
 
LOL at Vietnam comparison. What a paradise.

how many people do you know who have traveled there? I know a few.....not saying I want to necessarily live there cause the commies can still be sketchy, still too many old vietcong in high places. But aside from them I've heard some ridiculously good things about vietnam. Landwise it's supposed to be gods country. It's still poor, but the poor are still able to feed themselves. No they don't have a vigourous blackberry network up and running but I don't think they really care.



Please provide a link to Marx writing that his utopian society was a completely free market one. This should be interesting.


do your own search for once.

He wouldn't think much of our brand capitalism that's for sure. This is one of his quotes....

" Perfect capitalism has no monopolies, unions, government interference, special advantages for anyone. Just pure competition."

sounds reasonable doesn't it? but he would argue that humans are near incapable of actually implimenting such a system due to our innate nature. Therefore communism/socialism is the eventuality and then "MAYBE" a transition to a pure competitive market. Emphasis on "pure". Or maybe the transition never happens, it's all up to the people. The guy was right smack on. He was more than just an economist, he actually understood human beings in ways that no other economic philosopher has.
 
and I first heard about this from friends of mine who went to see a talk from a russian expat in new york, I think it was either columbia or carnegie where they saw him. This was some years ago so I don't remember who the guy was.....he was some exiled economist from the old soviet union.
 
how many people do you know who have traveled there?

Our VP of manufacturing goes there periodically, as we are looking for an asian manufacturing location to compliment our Costa Rican, Guatemalan and Dominican Republic manufacturing locations. That should probably count.


do your own search for once.

Translation: Plunkey caught me talking out of my ass yet again.

I'll be excited to see that Marx quote. Post up!
 
Our VP of manufacturing goes there periodically, as we are looking for an asian manufacturing location to compliment our Costa Rican, Guatemalan and Dominican Republic manufacturing locations. That should probably count.

Good, than I'm sure you were aware that they had the second biggest leap in GDP among the asian nations and they are being touted as a future asian power......I'm sure you knew that before you opened your proverbial pie hole, right? Or maybe your homeboy just lands at the airport and takes a limo to the nearest 5 star hotel and doesn't dare venture outside or really give a fuck? That's probably the case...like anyone remotely related to you would have any sort of curiousity about the world around them for even just a moment. It was probably just meetings with prospective vietnamese business owners that we're going to teach how to properly exploit and mistreat a burgeoning working class.....right? That's it isn't it? lol


Translation: Plunkey caught me talking out of my ass yet again.

the translation is that I'm tired of going to the "let me google that for you dipshit" website.

I'll be excited to see that Marx quote. Post up


really? you're really this retarded? are you having problem with reading comprehension?
 
Good, than I'm sure you were aware that they had the second biggest leap in GDP among the asian nations

Damn those evil capitalists! Let's take a moment and reflect on why we'd even be considering them as a LCC for manufacturing. Hmmm... Their weather maybe?

Oh, and guess what else Marx said? He said that hippy, mongoloid-looking, unemployed potheads should all be lined-up against a wall and shot. You provide me a link to your claim then I'll follow suit.

:)
 
Damn those evil capitalists! Let's take a moment and reflect on why we'd even be considering them as a LCC for manufacturing. Hmmm... Their weather maybe?


precisely because they have had 50+ years of socialism under their belt that stabilized the country from what it was in the 70's. How you don't see that this example is helping the point I've been making in the last few points is beyond flabbergasting. Sometimes you are a brick wall.....I am completely owning you and you know it which is why you wrote what's below....lol


Oh, and guess what else Marx said? He said that hippy, mongoloid-looking, unemployed potheads should all be lined-up against a wall and shot. You provide me a link to your claim then I'll follow suit.

really? I thought he said doughy old pasty white ruddy chubby cheeked little homunculi were who needed to shot.....but I'll check on that to make sure. No worries, I'll do my own google on that one.


:lmao::lmao:
 
ll counter with this: we're not responsible enough as a society to enact socialism


you may very well have a point. I just wonder if our current "social" system, not just the economic system....is responsible for a portion of our society not giving a fuck and not wanting to work towards the greater good of society. In some respects I can understand some peoples sentiments that no matter how hard I work, I'm always going to be right at the water line gasping for air....so why bother and just go on govt. assistance...??? There's alot at work here, I'm not blaming capitalism. Capitalism was just the tool used by a few to oppress the many just as socialism was used in exactly the same way in the old soviet union. It's the parasitic nature of our free market that bothers me. The great hoax is that it really isn't a free market at all....which is something the old boy pluneky knows all to well but wouldn't dare admit lest he get his membership card revoked and/or a visit from the boys in the middle of the night. lol
 
you may very well have a point. I just wonder if our current "social" system, not just the economic system....is responsible for a portion of our society not giving a fuck and not wanting to work towards the greater good of society. In some respects I can understand some peoples sentiments that no matter how hard I work, I'm always going to be right at the water line gasping for air....so why bother and just go on govt. assistance...??? There's alot at work here, I'm not blaming capitalism. Capitalism was just the tool used by a few to oppress the many just as socialism was used in exactly the same way in the old soviet union. It's the parasitic nature of our free market that bothers me. The great hoax is that it really isn't a free market at all....which is something the old boy pluneky knows all to well but wouldn't dare admit lest he get his membership card revoked and/or a visit from the boys in the middle of the night. lol

Although I am sure you can realate to this first-hand, it has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with your mindset and approach to life. The fact that you can't seem to get ahead is just proof to me that the system is working as intended.
 
thank you for worrying about my financial status some more, despite the fact we've been over this. You're just showing what a crass, low class little weasel you really are. I'm sure there are people here who really are at or under the water table who appreciate your snide ivory tower snarkiness.
 
I'll counter with this: we're not responsible enough as a society to enact socialism. There are simply too many lazy parasites who'd rather milk the system than work hard and contribute to it. When that happens, those that are working hard see the leeches sucking the system dry and lose motivation to work so hard to support parasites. Socialism only works when the VAST majority of the population is a productive member of society. It doesn't work when you have generations of welfare bums by the hundreds of thousands, and illegals who don't pay taxes by the millions.


First you have to have the "national" element locked in, being "one" united society, and have stricter expectations out of the populous. We don't have that in the U.S. We're more divided than ever with everyone on a different page, and before socialism could ever work here, we'd have to correct that. Being a smaller nation would of coure make the task easier as well.
 
dems vs rep is a fucking show they put on to keep you eyes of the real ass fucking we are all getting from government as a whole.



Ive been saying that for years and agee 1000% percent

its a travesty in this country when nearly 300,000,000 people in the USA are represented by only 2 parties......
 
thank you for worrying about my financial status some more, despite the fact we've been over this. You're just showing what a crass, low class little weasel you really are. I'm sure there are people here who really are at or under the water table who appreciate your snide ivory tower snarkiness.

Naw, I'm not worried about your financial status at all.

Now if someone like you started to get ahead in life -- then I'd be seriously concerned that the system is broken.
 
Ive been saying that for years and agee 1000% percent

its a travesty in this country when nearly 300,000,000 people in the USA are represented by more than one party......

Fixed. Think about it, look at how much trouble two parties are causing us, let alone any more than that. The real problem is human nature. We don't want to be controlled, but let us loose and watch shit get fucked up fast lol.
 
Thats good, because you should be worrying about the state of your own affairs. I'll bet my financial status is an order of magnitude more stable then your personal life.

Then you'd lose that bet as well.

Is that the lie you've been clinging to? That you are somehow trading any sense of professional satisfaction for some personal life stability? How sad.

Here's a newsflash: Your anti-big bussines, socialist/Marxist, libtard, neohippie approach to life isn't going to pay-off in either department.

Realize that your primary purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others not to make the choices you have made.
 
sorry, you've already given too much away about yourself here for me to buy anything you say about internal peace and happiness. There really never could be a bet because your life collapsed before I even came to EF. And I would paste you as a warning to people as well....this is what happens when you base your life around the pursuit of money. You become old and bitter (and maybe a little senile?).......but you're not alone I see it everywhere.



Then you'd lose that bet as well.

Is that the lie you've been clinging to? That you are somehow trading any sense of professional satisfaction for some personal life stability? How sad.

Here's a newsflash: Your anti-big bussines, socialist/Marxist, libtard, neohippie approach to life isn't going to pay-off in either department.

Realize that your primary purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others not to make the choices you have made.
 
Plunkey ain't old. Doesn't seem bitter or senile either. Seems like he has his shit pretty well together.

Thanks much!

RS's attempt at rationalization would seem tragic save the fact that he's earned his mess of a life through his own belief system. Some of life's disasters are unearned -- but he worked hard for this one.
 
Plunkey ain't old. Doesn't seem bitter or senile either. Seems like he has his shit pretty well together.


he colors his hair.....and yeah he's bitter. You haven't "really" been paying attention to him. I've been going rounds with this dude for 2 years and, well I guess it's my opinion in the end, but he's given away enough "tells" that if you're not paying attention you'd miss it. He's bitter to the core about something, not sure what....but I sent a couple paragraphs he wrote a while back on various subjects, to a psychologist acquaintence of mine. I didn't give this person "ANY" information on who the writer of the paragraphs was so as not to influence the judgement. By what I've been saying you can guess what the result was. We all touch off some of those predictors though....it's an internet forum afterall. lol
 
Thanks much!

RS's attempt at rationalization would seem tragic save the fact that he's earned his mess of a life through his own belief system. Some of life's disasters are unearned -- but he worked hard for this one.


my life "used" to be a mess back when I saw the world much in the same way boys like you do. Not anymore. Sorry. If we're going to compare rational clarity we'll somehow have to backtrack and erase the memory of you admitting you're a rabid jerry springer fan. I mean please boy...like I said, you've given way too much away to play this game with me.
 
Well I guess now would be the time for you two to throw up tax returns. Its really the only thing left you guys havent argued about.
 
he colors his hair.....and yeah he's bitter. You haven't "really" been paying attention to him. I've been going rounds with this dude for 2 years and, well I guess it's my opinion in the end, but he's given away enough "tells" that if you're not paying attention you'd miss it. He's bitter to the core about something, not sure what....but I sent a couple paragraphs he wrote a while back on various subjects, to a psychologist acquaintence of mine. I didn't give this person "ANY" information on who the writer of the paragraphs was so as not to influence the judgement. By what I've been saying you can guess what the result was. We all touch off some of those predictors though....it's an internet forum afterall. lol

Quite possibly your weakest post ever. My standards for you are incredibly low yet you've still failed to clear the bar.
 
my life "used" to be a mess back when I saw the world much in the same way boys like you do. Not anymore. Sorry. If we're going to compare rational clarity we'll somehow have to backtrack and erase the memory of you admitting you're a rabid jerry springer fan. I mean please boy...like I said, you've given way too much away to play this game with me.

You are my Jerry Springer show. It's like I'm an audience member and I get to rail on the guest every day.

Hint: You are the guest on the show.
 
there was a period where I would watch some Jerry Springer too. Shit got disastrously funny. I was getting into it for several weeks. But then it got old and tired. Same shit all the time.

And, I think plunkey's tax returns would pwn.
 
there was a period where I would watch some Jerry Springer too. Shit got disastrously funny. I was getting into it for several weeks. But then it got old and tired. Same shit all the time.

And, I think plunkey's tax returns would pwn.

I'm running into the same thing too. It's a little too much formula-based.

It's about time for the return of the kung fu hillbilly. We tried to book him for our last company picnic and he was unavailable. I'm gonna shoot for having him in dollywood this spring.
 
I'm running into the same thing too. It's a little too much formula-based.

It's about time for the return of the kung fu hillbilly. We tried to book him for our last company picnic and he was unavailable. I'm gonna shoot for having him in dollywood this spring.

I want to work for you! You need west coast representation?
 
You are my Jerry Springer show. It's like I'm an audience member and I get to rail on the guest every day.

Hint: You are the guest on the show.



nice try little rock....you're the only low class douche between us glued to television programing that depicts the worst that society has to offer. It's clear why you do it, as it is with anyone who watches stuff like that.....it's to see that there are people who are more miserable than you. You can claim how hilarious it is all you want....it is of course what you have to tell yourself. But it's not, and you know it's not....it just feels good, makes you feel like you chose the right paths in your life. "Hey, didn't end up like them huh? Least I didn't come home and find the wife gettin banged by the eastern conference all stars".
 
nice try little rock....you're the only low class douche between us glued to television programing that depicts the worst that society has to offer. It's clear why you do it, as it is with anyone who watches stuff like that.....it's to see that there are people who are more miserable than you. You can claim how hilarious it is all you want....it is of course what you have to tell yourself. But it's not, and you know it's not....it just feels good, makes you feel like you chose the right paths in your life. "Hey, didn't end up like them huh? Least I didn't come home and find the wife gettin banged by the eastern conference all stars".

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

We need an EF emote for the Jerry Springer fist-pump.

And FYI: You are the worst society has to offer. The pecking order goes you, Jerry Springer guests and then anyone else who is as invested in their own line of personal bullshit as you are.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
 
the worst that society has to offer are not actually the people who go on that show, it's the drooling simpletons who watch it. Jerry!Jerry!Jerry!! Do have a special t shirt you put on when you watch? Do you "actually" do the Jerry chant when you watch? I'll bet anything you do because you're a tool like that....I could totally see you doing it then beaming at your kids like "isn't daddy so cool and hip?" "Hopefully" their time with you hasn't completely corrupted their souls and they secretly think you're the worlds biggest ass when you sit down to watch jerry every night with your ensure......who knows though right? Maybe the brainwashing was complete enough. :lmao:


Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

We need an EF emote for the Jerry Springer fist-pump.

And FYI: You are the worst society has to offer. The pecking order goes you, Jerry Springer guests and then anyone else who is as invested in their own line of personal bullshit as you are.

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
 
....black conservatives who support free market principles and limited government.

"Black Republicans find themselves always having to prove who they are. Because the assumption is the Republican Party is for whites and the Democratic Party is for blacks," he said.

Wish I'd check this thread earlier. This issue really speaks to my own family's experience.

I'd correct this gentleman's statement by only saying the actual assumption is all nonwhites will be Dems, and being a Pub means you're traderous to your own ethnicity. Both my parents have always been uncomfortable with many of the principles of the Democratic party, and that are particularly against the current admin's policies, and yeah we aint white.

Effective enouragement of a free economy and capitalism seems to be negative correlated with socialism. As one goes up, the other goes down. I'm not aware of any country that's succeeded in doing both. That's the beef both I and my parents have with the Dems.

My dad worked very long and smart, and now he's quite wealthy. That's what the US is supposed to be about, and that's what made it powerful.
 
Wish I'd check this thread earlier. This issue really speaks to my own family's experience.

I'd correct this gentleman's statement by only saying the actual assumption is all nonwhites will be Dems, and being a Pub means you're traderous to your own ethnicity. Both my parents have always been uncomfortable with many of the principles of the Democratic party, and that are particularly against the current admin's policies, and yeah we aint white.

Effective enouragement of a free economy and capitalism seems to be negative correlated with socialism. As one goes up, the other goes down. I'm not aware of any country that's succeeded in doing both. That's the beef both I and my parents have with the Dems.

My dad worked very long and smart, and now he's quite wealthy. That's what the US is supposed to be about, and that's what made it powerful.

imo the latino voter could easily be swayed GOP.
typically, latinos
-all about fam
-sending their kids to college
-hard work
-religious
-disdain for socialism (cubans)
GOP principals...but misteps in the past, plus the 500lb gorrila of illegal immigration, seems to keep them firmly dem
 
imo the latino voter could easily be swayed GOP.
typically, latinos
-all about fam
-sending their kids to college
-hard work
-religious
-disdain for socialism (cubans)
GOP principals...but misteps in the past, plus the 500lb gorrila of illegal immigration, seems to keep them firmly dem

The vast majority of latinos in the US aren't Cuban though. AA are religious too, and I'd think generally as much so as latinos.

I think the appeal of free services and equality to all(!) to those classes that are on the SES bottom is strong, so the Dems get their strength from that. I can tell you from personal knowledge that pretty much anyone I know who's latino and is politically aware leans way more towards the Democratic party. They see the Pubs as being exclusionary and elitist.
 
The vast majority of latinos in the US aren't Cuban though. AA are religious too, and I'd think generally as much so as latinos.

I think the appeal of free services and equality to all(!) to those classes that are on the SES bottom is strong, so the Dems get their strength from that. I can tell you from personal knowledge that pretty much anyone I know who's latino and is politically aware leans way more towards the Democratic party. They see the Pubs as being exclusionary and elitist.

i agree cubans are a subcategory...but everything else i listed seemingly is what the GOP is about.
lotsa differences between AAs and latinos, and i think Latinos could be swayed and have more of an impact.
GOP should push hard for latino voters if they want to stay relevant.
there is a latino george bush, legit related to dubya somehow, and a GOP bro.
wave of teh future
 
the worst that society has to offer are not actually the people who go on that show, it's the drooling simpletons who watch it. Jerry!Jerry!Jerry!! Do have a special t shirt you put on when you watch? Do you "actually" do the Jerry chant when you watch? I'll bet anything you do because you're a tool like that....I could totally see you doing it then beaming at your kids like "isn't daddy so cool and hip?" "Hopefully" their time with you hasn't completely corrupted their souls and they secretly think you're the worlds biggest ass when you sit down to watch jerry every night with your ensure......who knows though right? Maybe the brainwashing was complete enough. :lmao:

These tirades are what make you better than a springer episode.

You know you are an endless sorce of entertainent for me, but feel compelled to press the "quote" button anyway. What more could I possibly ask for?

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

Carry on (please).
 
These tirades are what make you better than a springer episode.

You know you are an endless sorce of entertainent for me, but feel compelled to press the "quote" button anyway. What more could I possibly ask for?

Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

Carry on (please).

Actually... There is one more thing you could do: would you please begin each response to me with the phrase "Well Jerry,"?

Or am I asking too much?
 
lol at the redsam/plunkey ongoing fued and how it trickles into every poly thread.
good bros the both of them, but i'm no longer entertained by it.
 
lol at the redsam/plunkey ongoing fued and how it trickles into every poly thread.
good bros the both of them, but i'm no longer entertained by it.

I can see how the repetitive themes would be tedious to someone else, but this is my indulgence. It's really not that different from some people's cheat day to maintain their diet.
 
I can see how the repetitive themes would be tedious to someone else, but this is my indulgence. It's really not that different from some people's cheat day to maintain their diet.

You get extremely fat on your cheat days on EF I reckon lololol
 
You get extremely fat on your cheat days on EF I reckon lololol

I.... "like" my ... "exposure" to internet retardedness "in" manageable doses' irregardless... of drug use. Its... how.... I cope with the massive... "inflation" from Reagan when I cant "meditate" with... all-natural pot smoke.
 
Actually... There is one more thing you could do: would you please begin each response to me with the phrase "Well Jerry,"?

Or am I asking too much?



yes, I'm not a rubbish douchnozzle like you....I don't even know really what you're asking because i make it a dedicated point not to watch shows like that. I do so precisely because low rent white trash like you watch it....:whatever:
 
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