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Muslim cleric was shot 21 times in Dearborn raid

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An autopsy report shows that a Muslim cleric who died in an October shoot-out with federal agents was shot 21 times, then handcuffed, according to a person familiar with the case.



The handcuffing apparently occurred after the shooting and was in line with procedure, the person said.

Luqman Ameen Abdullah was shot and killed Oct. 28 at a Dearborn warehouse after a shoot-out with agents seeking to arrest him and 10 others on suspicion of dealing in stolen goods. The FBI has said Abdullah opened fire first and killed an FBI dog.

Concerning how his father was shot, Omar Regan, 34, told the Free Press today, “It’s so inhumane.”

He went on to ask, “How do you justify that? There’s no justification for that.”

Regan and others have called for an independent investigation because of concerns they have about how federal agents targeted Abdullah.

“It’s even worse than we thought,” Regan said of the autopsy report. “It’s ridiculous.”

Regan said he’s especially concerned that his father was reportedly shot in his genitalia region.

Regan said he wants the head of the FBI to take responsibility for what happened.

“When do you take responsibility?” Regan said. “This is inhumane.”

Speaking Thursday at a forum in Dearborn hosted by the Muslim Students Association, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI office Andrew Arena said of the Abdullah case:

“I think that case…certainly ended tragically. I don’t think there is anybody in this community, in the FBI, in law enforcement, that thinks that ended well…we hoped it wouldn’t end that way. But unfortunately, it did.”

The person familiar with the autopsy said today that one shot struck Abdullah in the back.

The Dearborn Police Department has scheduled a 10:30 a.m. news conference Monday to release the autopsy report. The Free Press filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the report last year. The request was denied by the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office this month.

Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad today said Monday's news conference will not end the probe into Abdullah's death.

"Our responsibility to the community is to ensure that we investigate this incident to obtain an accurate accounting of what occurred," Haddad said. "It is complex, and once completed we can move forward. I truly understand people's concern to bring this matter to closure."

Haddad stressed: "This investigation is still ongoing and will not be concluded Monday."

The Council on American-Islamic Relations said today that an independent investigation is necessary, and will get an independent pathologist to review the body.

“The shocking details of the imam’s autopsy raise a number of disturbing questions that need to be answered,” said Dawud Walid, executive director of the council's Michigan chapter. “First of all, did the FBI agents follow established procedure when they shot the imam 21 times? How was the imam shot in the back? Was it proper procedure to handcuff either a dead body or a mortally wounded suspect? If the agents found the imam alive following the shooting, did they call for medical assistance? All these questions need answers.”

At the time of the incident, FBI agents and local police surrounded a warehouse on Miller Road near Michigan Avenue. They believed Abdullah and others were inside.

When agents entered the warehouse, four of the men obeyed orders to surrender but Abdullah opened fire and was shot to death, FBI agents said at the time.

FBI agents did not release what kind of weapon Abdullah had or how many agents opened fire.

During a search warrant at Abdullah's home, they seized three rifles, a shotgun, a handgun and a bulletproof vest, Arena said in October.

Speaking to the Dearborn crowd, Arena said he takes ultimate responsibility for the case of Abdullah.

“I take full responsibility for what occurred that day. And I have to be judged: I’ll be judged by you. I’ll be judged by the community. I’ll be judged by my bosses in Washington D.C. as far as the Justice Dept., and quite frankly, God someday. But I think we did what we had to do.”

Local Muslims have raised numerous questions about the case of Abdullah, including the delay of the release of the autopsy report. Wayne County denied on Jan. 13 an earlier Freedom of Information Request from the Detroit Free Press for a copy of the report.

The letter, signed by Wayne County attorney Michael Fitzsimons, said that it denied the report because of a request from Dearborn Police.

FBI Detroit Special Agent Sandra Berchtold said today she had no comment on the autopsy report or the investigation by Dearborn police.

“They are actually investigating us, so we can’t comment,” she said.

The two-year investigation of Abdullah and his followers drew criticism from Muslim and African-American groups for its use of undercover informants that they said entrapped them. Family members of Abdullah told the Free Press that it was an informant who led Abdullah to the Dearborn warehouse where he was killed.

Over the past year, there has been growing concern about the use of informants in Muslim-American communities, echoing the use of informants in African-American communities during the civil rights movement, say advocates. Abdullah led a mosque, Masjid Al-Haqq, that was predominantly African-American.

Arena has said that using informants is legitimate police work, and that criminals can’t hide behind religious institutions.
 
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“First of all, did the FBI agents follow established procedure when they shot the imam 21 times? How was the imam shot in the back? Was it proper procedure to handcuff either a dead body or a mortally wounded suspect? If the agents found the imam alive following the shooting, did they call for medical assistance? All these questions need answers.”


Anyone on EF have answers to these questions?

expect a damn good settlement from lawyers paid for by you bitches. We live in a cry baby socialist hippie state, who do u think out master I mean president is? get used to it sluts.

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Guy got what he deserved.

Besides, would the family be less upset if he was "only" shot 8 times? Either way he's dead (unless hes got a little fiddy cent in his blood) so may as well make sure the job's done. Especially if he opened fire on the Feds. And killed one of their puppies.
 
What's the greater picture btw, was his home just raided for possession of & dealing stolen goods or was he also involved in Islamic Radicalism as well?
 
“First of all, did the FBI agents follow established procedure when they shot the imam 21 times? How was the imam shot in the back? Was it proper procedure to handcuff either a dead body or a mortally wounded suspect? If the agents found the imam alive following the shooting, did they call for medical assistance? All these questions need answers.”


Anyone on EF have answers to these questions?

expect a damn good settlement from lawyers paid for by you bitches. We live in a cry baby socialist hippie state, who do u think out master I mean president is? get used to it sluts.

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automatic weapons firing 600 rounds a minute from a few officers=shot 21 times...a quick burst from a few officers is proly 50-60 rounds.
handcuff a body, esp a armed felon, so he doesn't do any harm untill the ambo get's there...surely in the past a wounded man was shown compassion only to have then killed police/medics cause he wasn't cuffed up.
 
What's the greater picture btw, was his home just raided for possession of & dealing stolen goods or was he also involved in Islamic Radicalism as well?

he was a cleric who supposedly taught a breed of black nationalism/islamism.
 
i wanna go for the drunken white wemmin

3L bottle of White Lightning, hot meal out of the nearest chippie / Asian takeaways & you'll have more fanny than you'll know what to do with.

"Quantity has a quality of it's own"

!!1
 
lol instead of surrendering he opens fire on police..what the fuck do you expect to happen? give me a break
 
I only skimmed through that but how many officers were there? 21 times ain't a whole lot if 7 officers only fire off 3 rounds each for example. That's what they're trained to do. Aren't the Muslims buying up all the guns on the black market in Dtown? Maybe that had something to do with it.
 
i guess stoning a woman in the public square is humane if she is alone with a married man... I guess we all have different definitions of "humane" treatment of people..
 
automatic weapons firing 600 rounds a minute from a few officers=shot 21 times...a quick burst from a few officers is proly 50-60 rounds.
handcuff a body, esp a armed felon, so he doesn't do any harm untill the ambo get's there...surely in the past a wounded man was shown compassion only to have then killed police/medics cause he wasn't cuffed up.

You've never entered a legal forum in your life have you?

This is a sue-happy country where a person spills coffee and gets millions. Everything is about raising questions and then suing for damages and settling out of court. Everytime a cop shoots someone, the FIRST thing that is on the mind of everyone is "oh shit, think they could sue the city??".

This isn't Russia where cops can do whatever the fuck they want, and if you don't like it - tough.

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Im sorry but what is a humane way of getting shot? 21 times in the forehead for instant death and no pain? Inner city black kids have been shot a lot more times over a lot less and we dont even hear about it. But its a mooslim imam, oh noes!
 
You've never entered a legal forum in your life have you?

This is a sue-happy country where a person spills coffee and gets millions. Everything is about raising questions and then suing for damages and settling out of court. Everytime a cop shoots someone, the FIRST thing that is on the mind of everyone is "oh shit, think they could sue the city??".

This isn't Russia where cops can do whatever the fuck they want, and if you don't like it - tough.

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meh, it's not gonna fly.
he killed the dog and opened fire on FBI bros, no lawsuit.
maybe an attempt but it will fail this is pretty airtight
 
i guess stoning a woman in the public square is humane if she is alone with a married man... I guess we all have different definitions of "humane" treatment of people..


well put^^^

human beings in general are such hypocritical little ninnies. Everyone is awe struck when shit happens to them that they're guilty of themselves or worse.
 
meh, it's not gonna fly.
he killed the dog and opened fire on FBI bros, no lawsuit.
maybe an attempt but it will fail this is pretty airtight

1) get the media on your side (lawyers LOVE the media)
2) make the city look like bad guys through the media (govt is scared SHITLESS of the media)
3) Threaten $50M lawsuit and 2 days before the case, offer a settlement.

rinse. repeat. The merits of the case mean nothing. Know how many illegal immigrants have successfully sued the feds last year for something as simple as banging their head or not giving them medical attention in prisons?

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expect a damn good settlement from lawyers paid for by you bitches. We live in a cry baby socialist hippie state, who do u think out master I mean president is? get used to it sluts.

c

one thing's for sure. . .the fucking dead guy won't be doing any testifying.

oh yeah and, assassination is the highest form of public service.
 
one thing's for sure. . .the fucking dead guy won't be doing any testifying.

however ... middle eastern press who'll be spilling out stories of racist cops shooting a muslim cleric in their newspapers - will be raising a new group of angry anti-american youths who can be easliy convinced to build IEDs, attack US soldiers, fly planes into bulidings and try to carry explosives on airlines.

Cause and Effect. Everything has a cause and effect kids. Few people can think farther than 2 feet in life.

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1) get the media on your side (lawyers LOVE the media)
2) make the city look like bad guys through the media (govt is scared SHITLESS of the media)
3) Threaten $50M lawsuit and 2 days before the case, offer a settlement.

rinse. repeat. The merits of the case mean nothing. Know how many illegal immigrants have successfully sued the feds last year for something as simple as banging their head or not giving them medical attention in prisons?

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cops shoot peeps all the time with no charges being pressed
lovell mixon is one that comes to mind, and another recent case in oakland where the cops got off for justified reasons.
this guy is an american citizen and not a immigrant...not that it matters but i think you are wrong and time will determine
 
this guy is an american citizen and not a immigrant...

Think a 17 year old poor afghan kid in afghanistn gives a shit? Cowboy american cops murdered a muslim cleric (they are like priests to us) by shooting him 21 times in cold blood. Revenge must occur on those assholes americans. You can ALWYAS twist a news story anyway you want - us media invented this. :)

Why do you think the US Govt was so pissed about the GUatanamo Bay thing? They they give a shit about the prisoners? Nope. It's the pictures that fueled anti-american sentiment aroudn the owrld and they needed to show that they won't stand for this.

(bet you 10 bucks that kenyan guy who tried to bomb that plane probably grew up hearing from his radicals all the news stories of shit america was doign to muslims. Next step: board a plane).

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however ... middle eastern press who'll be spilling out stories of racist cops shooting a muslim cleric in their newspapers - will be raising a new group of angry anti-american youths who can be easliy convinced to build IEDs, attack US soldiers, fly planes into bulidings and try to carry explosives on airlines.
Cause and Effect. Everything has a cause and effect kids. Few people can think farther than 2 feet in life.

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if it never happened, they'd make up a fucking story about it happening anyway, to make sure the pot stays stirred. . .you can't win with those assholes. . .once you're on their radar screen, you gotta either kill'em all or live with the bullshit, i'm afraid.
 
if it never happened, they'd make up a fucking story about it happening anyway, to make sure the pot stays stirred. . .you can't win with those assholes. . .once you're on their radar screen, you gotta either kill'em all or live with the bullshit, i'm afraid.

They're not making shit up about swedes or south africans. I wonder why. Funny when people are told this also affects them, they quickly sit back and look at things again.

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Think a 17 year old poor afghan kid in afghanistn gives a shit? Cowboy american cops murdered a muslim cleric (they are like priests to us) by shooting him 21 times in cold blood. Revenge must occur on those assholes americans. You can ALWYAS twist a news story anyway you want - us media invented this. :)

Do the 17 year old kids in Afghanastan care as much about an American-born black man who converted to Islam and became an imam, as they would about an Arab? Do they see Black Muslims as "one of us"?
 
They're not making shit up about swedes or south africans. I wonder why. Funny when people are told this also affects them, they quickly sit back and look at things again.

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the swedes and souf africans are a bunch of pussies who don't stick their nose in other people's business, even if it's for their own good/safety.
 
This is a sue-happy country where a person spills coffee and gets millions.

For years people have brought up the McDonalds coffee case, yet they don't know shit about the facts. The woman received third degree burns over 6% of her body including her genitals, she had to have skin graphs. She was hospitalized for 8 days. That particular McDonalds had been warned many times that their coffee was too hot and they needed to turn it down. They held their coffee at 190 degrees, average coffee temp for home is around 135. A burn hazard exists with any food substance above 140 degrees. McDonalds excuse for having the coffee so hot was that people getting their coffee on their way to work will wait to get to work before drinking it, therefor it needed to be hotter than average.

I personally don't drink coffee, but when I see you douchebags that do drink it pick it up in the drive through it's the first thing glued to your fat pieholes. McDonalds deserved to get pwned in that case.
 
For years people have brought up the McDonalds coffee case, yet they don't know shit about the facts. The woman received third degree burns over 6% of her body including her genitals, she had to have skin graphs. She was hospitalized for 8 days. That particular McDonalds had been warned many times that their coffee was too hot and they needed to turn it down. They held their coffee at 190 degrees, average coffee temp for home is around 135. A burn hazard exists with any food substance above 140 degrees. McDonalds excuse for having the coffee so hot was that people getting their coffee on their way to work will wait to get to work before drinking it, therefor it needed to be hotter than average.

I personally don't drink coffee, but when I see you douchebags that do drink it pick it up in the drive through it's the first thing glued to your fat pieholes. McDonalds deserved to get pwned in that case.

lol x2

I heard they even microwaved it before they gave it to her...All she wanted McDs to do was pay for her medical bills but they refused and so she sued them.
 
For years people have brought up the McDonalds coffee case, yet they don't know shit about the facts. The woman received third degree burns over 6% of her body including her genitals, she had to have skin graphs. She was hospitalized for 8 days. That particular McDonalds had been warned many times that their coffee was too hot and they needed to turn it down. They held their coffee at 190 degrees, average coffee temp for home is around 135. A burn hazard exists with any food substance above 140 degrees. McDonalds excuse for having the coffee so hot was that people getting their coffee on their way to work will wait to get to work before drinking it, therefor it needed to be hotter than average.



I agree, but clearly you and I are simply lotto-mentality plantiff wanna-be types waiting to unjustly sue someone "just because we had to have a few measly little skingrafts on the genitals"....this of course according to our beloved inhouse douchebag.

fartknocker said:
Maybe we should just print-up another trillion dollars and give it to that poor girl.

You have no idea the problems you lotto-mentality plantiff wanna-be types create for society at large. This is how we get little old ladies winning $30M lawsuits for hot coffee.



K to the first person who guess correctly who fartknocker is....:lmao:
 
I agree, but clearly you and I are simply lotto-mentality plantiff wanna-be types waiting to unjustly sue someone "just because we had to have a few measly little skingrafts on the genitals"....this of course according to our beloved inhouse douchebag.

K to the first person who guess correctly who fartknocker is....:lmao:

This coming from a guy who values his X-Box at $15,000 and 20 seconds of hassle from TSA at $100,000 just makes it more hiliarious.

And no, granny still doesn't deserve $2.9M. Pay her bills and give her a bump. Funny how quickly people forget she's the one who spilled an entire cup of coffee on herself -- McDonalds didn't.
 
This coming from a guy who values his X-Box at $15,000 and 20 seconds of hassle from TSA at $100,000 just makes it more hiliarious.

And no, granny still doesn't deserve $2.9M. Pay her bills and give her a bump. Funny how quickly people forget she's the one who spilled an entire cup of coffee on herself -- McDonalds didn't.


For the win.......who is fartknocker?
































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Do they consider dogs agents? I know in some areas police dogs are considered "officers" and often attacks against them can be considered felonies. So, killing the FBI working dog could have been considered the same as killing an agent.

If the cleric had killed a human FBI agent, would shooting him 21 times be considered excessive? Also, as others have said, if several agents opened fire on him then being hit 21 times may not have been excessive.
 
Also, as others have said, if several agents opened fire on him then being hit 21 times may not have been excessive.

That would be the only excuse. That, and how much resistance he continued to show after the first round. Like, was he reaching for a weapon?
 
That would be the only excuse. That, and how much resistance he continued to show after the first round. Like, was he reaching for a weapon?
he wasnt reaching for a weapon he was firing a weapon
 
I think the only reason why he wasn't shot 22 times is that they only had 21 bullets.

I don't see a problem with him being shot IMO.
 
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Replace the word muslim cleric with young blaque male on his way to college with a basketball scholarship and loved by his community (insert pics) with sharpton talking outside.

Now carry on.

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Discharge a weapon against law enforcement= perma pwned...

The fact he was shot 21 time isn't surprising...that's why semi auto weapons were invented, they fire as quickly as you can pull the trigger. He was shot 21 times in a matter of seconds.
 
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Who cares? Really.



Moral of story: don't be a radical Muslim.

"Who cares? Really.

Moral of story: don't be a warmongering American"


Welcome to how people think on the other side of the world. Funny how we're all similar in thinking after all huh? lol

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"Who cares? Really.

Moral of story: don't be a warmongering American"


Welcome to how people think on the other side of the world. Funny how we're all similar in thinking after all huh? lol

c

I personally think our country has deteriorated greatly. We were once respected for who we were. We stood against tyranny, and helped those who needed it. Our economy was incredible and we really represented the land of opportunity.

NOW... our leader is bowing to third world countries, our economy is proof that welfare is the road to failure, and being a welcoming society is the quickest way to ruin.

I hate the fact that we have proven yet again that history repeats itself. Our empire has fallen in much the same way as every great, powerful society has before.

Not prejudice but I take issue with everyone that can't behave. If you can't play nice with others you deserve a whipping. Race has NOTHING to do with being a POS. Look around, there are truly great and brilliant of every race and religion, and sadly, equally there are those that degrade society. I just don't understand why there are so many who are unwilling to purge out the shit. Why have the Muslims not helped to identify the wack jobs that are making a bad name for the rest of the Muslims? If immigrants were to assimilate rather than have us try to change to accept them, we would be a melting pot. What we have now is growing separatism and racial tension.
 
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I personally think our country has deteriorated greatly. We were once respected for who we were. We stood against tyranny, and helped those who needed it. Our economy was incredible and we really represented the land of opportunity.

NOW... our leader is bowing to third world countries, our economy is proof that welfare is the road to failure, and being a welcoming society is the quickest way to ruin.

I hate the fact that we have proven yet again that history repeats itself. Our empire has fallen in much the same way as every great, powerful society has before.

Not prejudice but I take issue with everyone that can't behave. If you can't play nice with others you deserve a whipping. Race has NOTHING to do with being a POS. Look around, there are truly great and brilliant of every race and religion, and sadly, equally there are those that degrade society. I just don't understand why there are so many who are unwilling to purge out the shit. Why have the Muslims not helped to identify the wack jobs that are making a bad name for the rest of the Muslims? If immigrants were to assimilate rather than have us try to change to accept them, we would be a melting pot. What we have now is growing separatism and racial tension.

Word. From Birth of Nation to 1980s we never fucked with muslim countries. # of terrorist attack american deaths = 0.

1990s to now. # of terrorist attack american deaths = 3000 9/11 + 5,000 us soldiers, well u get the point. :)

Problem is. WAR ON TERROR = $$$. And while it sucks for the people doing the dying, the defense contractors and wall st bankers who fund them LOVE WAR. And since they own the president (who do u think owns the Federal Reserve, you know the guys who create your money) they can get him to do what they want.

Hey Obama lovers, how's that Obama ending the war thing coming along? lol

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Word. From Birth of Nation to 1980s we never fucked with muslim countries. # of terrorist attack american deaths = 0.

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wait, are you saying we never fucked with muslim countries before 1980?? Dude......are you serious? I know you're smarter than this, please tell me you know your history better than that. Am I reading this wrong? If so I apologize....but geeezzz oh man.
 
wait, are you saying we never fucked with muslim countries before 1980?? Dude......are you serious? I know you're smarter than this, please tell me you know your history better than that. Am I reading this wrong? If so I apologize....but geeezzz oh man.

never understood why the USA gets the brunt of the hate.
france and GB are the orginal buttfuckers of the Middle East.
they lied and mislead the arabs (sykes/picot act i think).
the usa has done more postive for muslims than any other western power (bosnia, somoalia, easy visas for the USA, etc) yet we get the hate? fugging misplaced, hate the french and brits for being imperialist twats.
and according to Sam Harris in his book "end of faith" jihad against the west is nothing new and has been going on for long before the 20th century.
he talks about a 18th century either Brit or colonial USA sailing boat getting jacked off the coast of Somaolia in the name of jihad...jihad is not new nor is the outcome of george bush
 
I think they hate the west in general bino. I agree that the U.S does sometimes take some of the blame that should rightfully go on other countries, but fact is we're the biggest target...sometimes rightfully and sometimes not. But take Iran for example, i completely understand why an iranian who grew up in the 60's and 70's would hate the U.S. The CIA overthrew Mossadegh, the only pro western muslim in the last half decade, because he dared question whether american and british oil companies were paying their contractual obligations. The guy they replaced him with, the shaw, was a flaming POS everyone ended up despising which led to the 77 revolution. Remember that? When delta force got their asses handed to them trying to go in there to get the hostages out. ......we've got history there bro, bad too. But yeah, you'd think we'd have gotten some good will for doing stuff like defending the bosnians against the serbs, something no arab/muslim nation would have been even remotely capable of doing.


never understood why the USA gets the brunt of the hate.
france and GB are the orginal buttfuckers of the Middle East.
they lied and mislead the arabs (sykes/picot act i think).
the usa has done more postive for muslims than any other western power (bosnia, somoalia, easy visas for the USA, etc) yet we get the hate? fugging misplaced, hate the french and brits for being imperialist twats.
and according to Sam Harris in his book "end of faith" jihad against the west is nothing new and has been going on for long before the 20th century.
he talks about a 18th century either Brit or colonial USA sailing boat getting jacked off the coast of Somaolia in the name of jihad...jihad is not new nor is the outcome of george bush
 
I think they hate the west in general bino. I agree that the U.S does sometimes take some of the blame that should rightfully go on other countries, but fact is we're the biggest target...sometimes rightfully and sometimes not. But take Iran for example, i completely understand why an iranian who grew up in the 60's and 70's would hate the U.S. The CIA overthrew Mossadegh, the only pro western muslim in the last half decade, because he dared question whether american and british oil companies were paying their contractual obligations. The guy they replaced him with, the shaw, was a flaming POS everyone ended up despising which led to the 77 revolution. Remember that? When delta force got their asses handed to them trying to go in there to get the hostages out. ......we've got history there bro, bad too. But yeah, you'd think we'd have gotten some good will for doing stuff like defending the bosnians against the serbs, something no arab/muslim nation would have been even remotely capable of doing.

and muslims here have good lives, or at least the opportunity to do so.
no riots or flag burning like in the uk or france...
 
on this I wholly agree....if they think the U.S is the great satan, don't come and live here.

they aren't as fussy (ya know, like burning the flag and rioting)in the usa cause there is room to do wtf they want.
we don't make silly rules about clothing or minarets...
this dbag cleric was an american born turned muslim thugg
 
the US are pussies...I wouldn't give a shit what ethnicity or cultural background or religion he is...he shoots at cops after he's told to surrender his weapons, he will get gunned down and killed...it's not rocket science people

It's the same thing in Canada...if you're a cop and someone opens fire at you, you cant even shoot him in the head, you gotta aim for the leg or he can sue the department....even though the cop is defending himself....too much force or whatever

this whole world is pussified
 
the US are pussies...I wouldn't give a shit what ethnicity or cultural background or religion he is...he shoots at cops after he's told to surrender his weapons, he will get gunned down and killed...it's not rocket science people

It's the same thing in Canada...if you're a cop and someone opens fire at you, you cant even shoot him in the head, you gotta aim for the leg or he can sue the department....even though the cop is defending himself....too much force or whatever

this whole world is pussified

no shit bro, if this were a muslim country everyone would understand and agree with the police shooting the guy. And if his family wanted to sue they'd probably be shot too.
 
the US are pussies...I wouldn't give a shit what ethnicity or cultural background or religion he is...he shoots at cops after he's told to surrender his weapons, he will get gunned down and killed...it's not rocket science people

It's the same thing in Canada...if you're a cop and someone opens fire at you, you cant even shoot him in the head, you gotta aim for the leg or he can sue the department....even though the cop is defending himself....too much force or whatever

this whole world is pussified
he's using the muslim thing as a cover for felonious shit.
he's not a real muslim in the sense that you are, he was born with a christian name and in the usa.
i'd think real deal muslims would get pissy at phoneys like him throwing the name around
 
And if his family wanted to sue they'd probably be shot too.


no fuckin shit right right here^^^^


If the familyu approached for a lawsuit the authorities would look at each other like "seriously?".....cool, hey machmoud, head down to the quarry and bring back a truck load of palm size rocks, we got a family to stone nigga!!! lol
 
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the US are pussies...I wouldn't give a shit what ethnicity or cultural background or religion he is...he shoots at cops after he's told to surrender his weapons, he will get gunned down and killed...it's not rocket science people

Excuse me? He WAS gunned down.

Would youse be happier if we cut off thieves' hands and killed adultresses?
 
Excuse me? He WAS gunned down.

Would youse be happier if we cut off thieves' hands and killed adultresses?

repeat offense theives i could cosign getting caned pretty hard
maybe even whipped.
fuggin annoying plauge, having your vehicle gutted sucks so much
 
Excuse me? He WAS gunned down.

Would youse be happier if we cut off thieves' hands and killed adultresses?

dont try to change the subject because ur country is upheld on pussified laws

who gives a shit if this is politically incorrect or hurts anyone's religious / netionalistic / geographic or any kind of ...ic sensitivities...

mofo shoots at cops, mofo gets killed

i know he got gunned down, but now they're going to be questioned for fuckin doing their jobs and protecting society, because some asshole is designated a "sheikh"
 
dont try to change the subject because ur country is upheld on pussified laws

who gives a shit if this is politically incorrect or hurts anyone's religious / netionalistic / geographic or any kind of ...ic sensitivities...

mofo shoots at cops, mofo gets killed

i know he got gunned down, but now they're going to be questioned for fuckin doing their jobs and protecting society, because some asshole is designated a "sheikh"

I agree that, from what little evidence I've seen, the guy got what he deserved. But you think cops should be able to act with impunity as judge, jury and executioner on the spot without being questioned afterwards? I think a bit of introspection is a good thing here, it should never be easy to deprive someone of their life, or of their civil liberties.

And I thought he was designated as an Imam?
 
I agree that, from what little evidence I've seen, the guy got what he deserved. But you think cops should be able to act with impunity as judge, jury and executioner on the spot without being questioned afterwards? I think a bit of introspection is a good thing here, it should never be easy to deprive someone of their life, or of their civil liberties.

And I thought he was designated as an Imam?

I think we give cops a certain leve lof trust ame power when they are given the position, the gun and the badge because they have a job to do, nad that is to serve and protect.

Sure, some cops are corrupt, but even good ones now get hassled because of some asshole who is a "minority" or ratial profiling or whatever and all of a sudden you're not looking at a "criminal" getting shot, you're looking as someone who is of a certain ethnicity being shot by a cop because of hate crime or whatever...

Grow up people...it's like throwing yourself of a bus and suing the bus driver for not stopping...you want to know why people take advantage of the US? because it's too easy...too much liberal bullshit and law protecting minorities when everyone should be treated the same...i.e. wellfare, and a whole bunch of shit...
 
I think we give cops a certain leve lof trust ame power when they are given the position, the gun and the badge because they have a job to do, nad that is to serve and protect.

Sure, some cops are corrupt, but even good ones now get hassled because of some asshole who is a "minority" or ratial profiling or whatever and all of a sudden you're not looking at a "criminal" getting shot, you're looking as someone who is of a certain ethnicity being shot by a cop because of hate crime or whatever...

Grow up people...it's like throwing yourself of a bus and suing the bus driver for not stopping...you want to know why people take advantage of the US? because it's too easy...too much liberal bullshit and law protecting minorities when everyone should be treated the same...i.e. wellfare, and a whole bunch of shit...

*racial
:qt:
 
Grow up people...it's like throwing yourself of a bus and suing the bus driver for not stopping...you want to know why people take advantage of the US? because it's too easy...too much liberal bullshit and law protecting minorities when everyone should be treated the same...i.e. wellfare, and a whole bunch of shit...

I think that's better than allowing a police state mentality.

At the risk of changing the subject again, whenever the subject of "reparations" for the descendents of former slaves comes up, I always mention Welfare, but no one ever seems to think that's funny.
 
I think that's better than allowing a police state mentality.

At the risk of changing the subject again, whenever the subject of "reparations" for the descendents of former slaves comes up, I always mention Welfare, but no one ever seems to think that's funny.

do you honestly believe half the people on welfare deserve welfare??

half these people can get jobs, they're just lazy and it's easy for them to take our fuckin tax money
 
I think that's better than allowing a police state mentality.

At the risk of changing the subject again, whenever the subject of "reparations" for the descendents of former slaves comes up, I always mention Welfare, but no one ever seems to think that's funny.

Where's my reparations pay???
My ancestors saved the french from The AXIS powers, they should pay. I had ancestors trying to save Vietnamese, they should pay. I lost a relative in the civil war who was trying to free slaves, the slaves descendants should pay.
Somebody owes me a LOT a money!!!!:mad:
 
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