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World's strongest man to make MMA debut
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he going to talk through people like a freight train
jnevin
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Talk?
he is a big motherfufcker!!.. lets see if he got any skill!
redshirt27se
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why does everyone who's big think they can fight MMA?
he'll get tapped first or second round.
he'll get tapped first or second round.
mustang_00
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compared to other metrx guys he looks like a 5'5 midget in all aspects of size. yeah he's ripped to shit and strong but he's going to get beat on!!!
i think it was 06 when metrx did the new contest where you have to push your opponent out of a circle and he got tossed around like a rag doll. granted pushing isn't MMA but still.
hey scots what was the name of the contest called and who was the USA guy who pushed him out??? i can't think of his name
i think it was 06 when metrx did the new contest where you have to push your opponent out of a circle and he got tossed around like a rag doll. granted pushing isn't MMA but still.
hey scots what was the name of the contest called and who was the USA guy who pushed him out??? i can't think of his name
nimbus
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“If Najman wants to exchange punches with me I wish him luck. I won’t be as slow as an ox and I won’t let him beat me up. My mother didn’t raise me to be a bum. These hands can hurt; believe me,”
nice, lol.
also his opponent has the best nickname ever, 'el testosteron'
nice, lol.
also his opponent has the best nickname ever, 'el testosteron'
PICK3
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Of course he did, I predicted he wood get pwnt.
What other MMA outcum wood you expect
butt seriously, his low kicks were frightening
Of course he did, I predicted he wood get pwnt.
What other MMA outcum wood you expect
butt seriously, his low kicks were frightening
That wasn't a fight, it was an assault.
You mean Sumo Wrestling?
Of course he wouldn't do well in that against a bunch of 350-pound WSM contestants. But how many people that big is he gonna find in MMA?
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lartinos
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I hung out with his sister. Fuggin hot... Giant boobs.
All I got out of her was to bite her tit through her clothes nd kiss her a little. She goes to school here on LI
All I got out of her was to bite her tit through her clothes nd kiss her a little. She goes to school here on LI
Scotsman
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It was the '04 WSM contest in the Bahamas. Can't remember which American he was paired with but in the finals Vystul V from Russia tossed him like a little girl. Mariusz is actually pretty small for a pro strongman he's ~6'1" and usually comes in around 295-300lbs. At his heaviest he was 320 at the 06 Arnold Classic and came in 6th in the contest.
Cheers,
Scotsman
mustang_00
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haha yeah that was the one. he looked confused during it, and kinda pissed off like he was going to rage after he was out of the circle.
wow.
mustang_00
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i don't agree with pudz's kicks at all! stupid fuck is going to end his career via a break before it even starts.
redshirt27se
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DannoMight
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the ref was about to put him in an armbar
He is hot 
mustang_00
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i'd put a shank in my cowboy boot and roadhouse his ass
well he did used to be a boxer, and was going to box for the olympics but his father wouldnt let him take boxing to the pre level because he thought it was too violent, that was when he was aged 17 i think...
i predict mariusz will retire from strongman soon though....
i wish mma was on t.v over here more...
also mariusz is gonna be super pissed when now he lost wsm if he also sucks at mma and looses fights
Someone post a vid please the above one doesnt work
nimbus
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nice repost, homo
redsamurai
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Not bad, he ain't comin stateside though cause he knows he'd have to take drug tests.
Someone please link working video thanks a bunch fuckers
PICK3
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Holy fuckin lowkicks batman
holy fuckin hammer fists batman
he looks like an over-sized super aggressive much stronger brock lestner on check drops
holy fuckin hammer fists batman
he looks like an over-sized super aggressive much stronger brock lestner on check drops
PICK3
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ololol! @ his opponent trying to get the fuck out of the way from those kicks
he was chasing him around in the ring
ololol it looked like the ref tried to get him in an arm bar but marius was too big so it didnt work
bakemeacookie
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That guys a fucking monster!
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redsamurai
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let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Lesnar may not train for strongman competitions, but something tells me that in a ring.....Lesnar would be much stronger than Mariusz. It's the same thing they say about some of the best football players in the NFL, in the gym they're not all that impressive but on the field...once they get their hands on you....it's all over. Lesnar has decades on Mariusz in terms of "field strength". A human opponent is not an atlas stone. And also remember that the UFC guys have to be ALOT more careful about their gear use. Like they probably just get away with it for the first couple months after a fight, than the random testing starts. In the old pride days dude's were dropping cheques before the fight which I'm pretty much posititve Pudz did right before his fight.
Remember how aggressive guys like shogun and vanderlei were back in the day? (well anybody from chute box or top team for that matter) I kind of miss that, but it was the result of some major drug useage.
bakemeacookie
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Yeah but Kimbo could wipe both their asses. Please!
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nimbus
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lol @ a strongman not having 'field' strength, ok dude.
if you're gonna argue anything, argue technique. this strength business sounds silly
AztecWarrior
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He looked scared and unsure of himself, judging off his natural human behavior through body language. He gambled when he rushed his foe, but it paid off, earning him a victory. Those leg kicks of his are impressive. He's such a big guy, I hope he developes the endurance to give him the ablities to compete in combat sports. Heart, will, and skill will be figured out soon enough. You have it or you don't. That's still unknown at this time about him.
bro you just like wiped out your credibility when talking about any form of fighitng sport. marius would pwn lestner easily in terms of power and the ability to throw him around the ring like a rag doll. please bro, please. lol
redsamurai
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I don't understand, you're a fighter....you should know this. Football players know this all too well, I'm surprised you don't.
I don't understand, you're a fighter....you should know this. Football players know this all too well, I'm surprised you don't.
I throw much better fighters around in the ring because i'm stronger than fighters in my weight class....regardless of whether i can pull off a win, when it comes to grappling and ring control, i force them into a corner and maul them....it doesnt take much if you're really big and strong and aggressive, you will intimidate / pressure / force fighters into hard situation...and yes, i know this very well
PLUS marius almost made pro boxing till his father forced him out of it
redsamurai
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You didn't get what I was saying before......Lesnar is 285 pounds and has been training his whole life to move "people", not inanimate objects. Marius may be stronger in the gym than brock, but "on the field"...I'm going to say it's a little more evenly matched. I'm 250 pounds and I guarantee you that marius would have trouble picking me up and slamming me cause A) I know a little about what I'm doing and B)picking up an object that is constantly shifting it's center of gravity in direct opposition to the way you're trying to move it is inherently difficult. Marius I"m sure would eventually get me, but it would be alot more work than a 250 pound atlas stone which he would pick up and slam within nanoseconds. Now take a 285 man like Brock who's a bit of an ogre himself and has made his living since he was 15 moving human opponents and was nationally recognized as being very good at that........that's going to be a fight between those two. In fact, at this stage....I would predict Lesnar would have marius on his back kind of quick. I'm surprised you don't acknowledge that. I mean what has Lesnar been doing the last 15 years vs. what has marius been doing? Two different endeavors.......Marius has alot of catching up to do.
90% of the time, who wins these fight, or just about any fight, are the ones without the glass jaw. we all seen huge strong muscle men thet look like the'll destroy anyone, but they just cant take a punch. they run 10 miles a day, do a million situps, move big tires from denver to colorado springs, but if the jaw is made out of glass, whats the chances of a win?? how's the strongmans jaw?????
bro, when someone has a huge strength advantage, it goes a long way...thats all i'm saying
I know what you're saying, but the dude pull trains man lol
redsamurai
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but can he move another monster opponent who's brutally strong in his own right....but that also has been in the business of moving other men violently for the better part of 15-20 years. Lesnar's been wrestling since he was probably 10......benches in the neighborhood of 500, squats around 6-700......plus is a bodyweight monster. The guy practices strength movements at angles strongmen do not. When two men lockup, it's alot different than doing lifts with a static object. ANd you know that. Lesnar has freakish wingspan too......so that means he get's his hands on Marius first....."huge" advantage. But I will say that if they stood together, it wouldn't stand long cause Marius's kicks would force Lesnar to shoot real quick. This is something I wanted to ask you about......I know they were low kicks, but didn't they look even harder than crocops? I don't think I've ever seen someone kicked that hard in my life and I've seen crocops highlight reels. If Marius were to go to the head with that power it would kill someone.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see...it would be a killer fight to watch for sure
redsamurai
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I don't see it happening cause Marius is purely pharmaceutical. It would take over a year for that guy's natural hormones to come back online and in that time he'd lose practically everything. The guys here can "artfully" use roids to augment their training, but they can't come in to a fight anymore hopped up on everything. Mariusz would have to learn how to train without roids which is why I see him maybe going to japan where they don't give a fuck.
hold it!! hold it!! are you saying these strongman are taking drugs?? i thought they were all clean, like all athletes in pro sports. you mean these guys cheat too?? and i was thinking they lift those tremendous ammounts of weights by following a good diet, hard training and plenty of rest.crap!!!
metalfujimi
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he beat the absolute shit out of him. Everyone says that strength doesnt matter and that big guys cant fight, but I think they are just jealous cause Lesnar and this dude are big, and completely overpower their opponent. If you lift life like an animal, you do everything else like an animal, including fighting
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Big_BK
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Agree with the guy above, imagine big z in mma. The dude is just a tank of a person there comes a point where no technique or skill is gonna beat someone so much bigger and stronger then you.
redsamurai
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I'm sorry, I just don't see Pudz running through the current crop of HW's in the UFC. Lesnar,Carwin, Velasquez......I just don't see him being so much stronger than them that their decades of fight training that they have over him wouldn't prevail. Lesnar only beat Mir cause not only is he a monster, he's a world class wrestler who knows what he's doing once he get's on top of you....and even he got caught the first time by a very good BJJ artist. I don't see Pudz having the ring savvy yet to stay out of some very complex tap outs that a guy like Mir brings. He would have to be "verboten" by his corner from getting on top of a guy like Mir. You can see he's got that big man kill instinct when his prey goes down and that's what BJJ guys are waitin on. I would love to see him fight a guy like Carwin though, cause those two horse's aren't going to the ground. There would be cannon shots going off in that fight. 
metalfujimi
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exactly
he's just too strong...guys that big will learn to use their power int he octagon to end fights quick
you have to understand strongman events develops your functional strength, i.e. ability to be athletic while using your strength
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Big_BK
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Not only that but like alc. said earlier he was joking about how the ref was trying to put pudz in an arm bar but pudz was too big. Imagine trying to put a 400lb guy into some type of submission. I bet you nobody would be able to even with all their might simply because a. the guy is physically fucking massive and b. hes that much stronger to move that much weight and could easily stop you from trying to tap him out.
well, I agree with everything else except for the submission...you can easily get an ankle lock on a guy that's 400lbs +
andy-pandy
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the guy he fought lost because he was shit scared once Mariusz charged him and gave up out of fear, not one punch got though to him from what i saw but he still tapped
Aleksander Emelianenko is a name going about for possible next fight, if its true i think will be a bad night for maruisz unless he can get ontop of him and keep there
it would be fun see him against Minowa whos about 190lb and loves fighting big guys, maruisz taps as quick as this boxer did
Aleksander Emelianenko is a name going about for possible next fight, if its true i think will be a bad night for maruisz unless he can get ontop of him and keep there
it would be fun see him against Minowa whos about 190lb and loves fighting big guys, maruisz taps as quick as this boxer did
redsamurai
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i question why mariusz is even doing this, it seems like an ego pump. Like somebody got to him and said MMA is taking off you should get in on that. You got to be born to be a fighter. Despite the ball licking going on here, until Pudz goes into deep waters......it's just a side show.
DannoMight
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Who wants to see Mariusz vs Kimbo.
i do
i do
lol @ comparing kimbo to marius...marius will eat kimbo's heart
redsamurai
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juiced or non juiced mariusz? A pertinent question as this slightly alter the odds I would have on this fight. A drug tested mariusz is a different story alltogether. Not that kimbo doesn't use either, they all use. They just have to adhere to strict doping schedules whereas Mariusz never has had to.
mariusz was into fighting early on in his career, he was gonna be an olympic boxer but his dad didnt allow him because he said it was too agressive, then mariusz was convicted of something (which may have been assault but im not sure) and in prison for a few months, when he came out he started training for strongman...
redsamurai
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Is it true that prison stint was for them finding a body in his trunk? Are the rumors true he worked for the russian mob?
if I believed they were close in terms of raw brutal power, then it would make a difference. Marius is so far ahead of the power game that even off juice, he would still kill em all
redsamurai
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"IF" he's as juiced up as they claim...like I"ve read the dude eats bacon and candy all day long...."IF" this is true, than that means he's a pure pharmaceutical product. Which means that the instant those exogenous sources of hormones come out of him, he simply cannot even hope for his natural functions to even remotely take up that slack. I met him at the arnold probably 5-6 years ago. He wasn't participating in the strongman contest cause he had some sort of injury apparently. I shook his hand and all I could keep thinking was, this is not the same dude as on TV. Yeah he was still a much larger than normal individual, but he was not the jacked specimen walking around with house's on his back. THere was just something timid about him that I couldn't figure out. He didn't have a strong handshake at all, and I wasn't some meathead trying to give him an uber strong handshake to test the worlds strongest man like I'm sure some tools do.....but he just wasn't "firm". When I was in cali I mentioned this experience to a guy I plifted with who was friends with mendelson. He laughed and just said that's typical when guys have to take time off the sauce. Since they're experienceing those mega grams of test and whatnot, they're not their "usual selves". At that same arnold I shook hands with Kazmeir too.......boy was that a difference. Dude kind of came off like a prick but he was breathing fire. Dude was probably "on". He looked like he wanted to go pick up one of the massive display units and start walking aroud with it and yelling WHAT!! at everyone. That was like the pudz you saw in that fight vid.
jesse_01
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I just watch the fight. Power looks impressive. A lot like Lesners first fight. I think lesner and him would be a good fight. But lesner has a little head start on training. Although lesner hasn't trained lately because he has been sick as shit.
Its hard to judge his skills cause he just kicked than malled the guy Lesner Grizzly bear style.
One thing I did notice was when he was chasing the other guy with leg kicks, hands where down. IMO I think give that guy a year or 2 of training and MIR would still tap him out.
I can't wait to see Mir, Lesener 3. Mir bulked up and looked fast and good in his last fight.
Its hard to judge his skills cause he just kicked than malled the guy Lesner Grizzly bear style.
One thing I did notice was when he was chasing the other guy with leg kicks, hands where down. IMO I think give that guy a year or 2 of training and MIR would still tap him out.
I can't wait to see Mir, Lesener 3. Mir bulked up and looked fast and good in his last fight.
redsamurai
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he did indeed.
You know though that Lesnar might be finished right? He's still going to be able to lead a normal life, but that diverticulitis may prevent him from training the way he does and/or holding that mass. It would be a trip if he came back as a light heavy, but that may be in order cause keeping that huge frame in fighting shape might be too difficult. The amount of nutrients that a guy that size with that kind of lean body mass needs is astronomical, but he'll kill himself if he tries to take in that much to keep that mass. I dunno, we'll see.
InGreatShape
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AztecWarrior
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LOL! You guys were all over this guys nuts. He show promise though, if he can shed some muscle and build a better cardio tank, he'll be ok.
redsamurai
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I hope this fight put to rest any notions that Mariusz could even remotely compete with top heavyweight fighters in the world.
I actually think Lesnar would "literally" kill him in the ring with that lack of wind. I mean he fell to the ground like a baby against Tim Sylvia who really did nothing to him. How long do you think he could have fended off a guy who's actually larger than he is and has the heart capacity to go for 3-4 rounds all out...??? Lesnar would have been on top of him within in seconds and literally killing him. It was hard to watch this fight.......but it's good for people to see that dominance in one sport or activity does not necessarily translate to the other. Lesnar was supposedly "beasted" by the vikings practice squad linemen....but MMA fit more his background. Mariusz's strongman training just doesn't translate well into fighting another trained man in a ring. If he's going to do well he has to completely let go of strongman and do MMA training....it's that simple.
I actually think Lesnar would "literally" kill him in the ring with that lack of wind. I mean he fell to the ground like a baby against Tim Sylvia who really did nothing to him. How long do you think he could have fended off a guy who's actually larger than he is and has the heart capacity to go for 3-4 rounds all out...??? Lesnar would have been on top of him within in seconds and literally killing him. It was hard to watch this fight.......but it's good for people to see that dominance in one sport or activity does not necessarily translate to the other. Lesnar was supposedly "beasted" by the vikings practice squad linemen....but MMA fit more his background. Mariusz's strongman training just doesn't translate well into fighting another trained man in a ring. If he's going to do well he has to completely let go of strongman and do MMA training....it's that simple.
Marius got winded and couldn't do anything...but wait till he learns how to fight. He DID fight an ex-champ...
AztecWarrior
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LOL! It wasn't so much that. It was the statment his fans were making like his ungodly man strenght would be more then enough to defeat even the top fighters in MMA. It takes more then to move some stones to be a good fighter. Strenght is only one talent of many talents one needs to obtain, but isn't ranked higher then say skill, conditoning, and heart.
redsamurai
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traz if he had wind he might have actually been able to do something cause he got in on Sylvia at will. What blew me away though is that Sylvia sprawled him. I mean wasn't he supposed to be able to just pick up the biggest dude's in MMA and smash them longtime? I didn't think he'd be pickin up Lesnar or nobody like that but Sylvia? Fuck, didn't Couture blow through Sylvia and take him down at will? I mean he had "ONE" charge in him and managed to kind of half ass Tim to the floor but in such a way that he got right back the fuck up. There was just no explosion and that's what surprises me. I'm not surprised he lost to a veteran....I'm surprised at how bad he looked. It honestly didn't look like he trains much in MMA.
So much potential for that guy, though he gassed out so quickly and he is in fact very new and hasn't been training for long at all and unlike brock he does not have a martial arts background so cut the guy some slack, and regardless of his huge frame his stamina could still be a lot better than it was on that fight, not to mention he fought an ex ufc champion.
redshirt27se
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sylvia isn't a bum.
i give pudz credit.
i give pudz credit.
redsamurai
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If, as I suspect, he's trying to be some kind of two sport guy....his MMA carreer is going to be short lived. He needs to switch over to MMA training now and maybe in a few years he'll be something to deal with. If he thinks he can do split training for MMA and strongman it isn't going to work. His past strongman training will help in certain areas but he has to develop the capacity to sustain that kind of force production over minutes, not seconds like his strongman training leans toward. He looks like he could develop the same style as Coleman, although maybe a better striker as he has that boxing background. He definitely needs to concentrate on learning how to shoot in so that if he does get sprawled he's in close and utilize his striking. He's never going to get in on guys by just walking in, he doesn't have that classical strikers physique.
redsamurai
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wait, he's never trained MMA at all? like ever? So he just brushed up on his old boxing skills and started fighting? I mean that explains why he has no cardio..so on the one hand I'm not unimpessed but on the other hand that just sound ridiculously dumb.
Does anyone know what weight this was fought at? I know heavyweight is usually 265 but some of the lesser regulated organization really dont have weight limits. I thought Puz was around 320, so I really dont know how he would cut to 265 to fight a guy like Lesnar/Carwin.
I think this just breaks down to technique, and from what I have seen he doesnt have it. Strength is really important to heavys, but you have to know how to use that weight and strength. I am 245 , my discipline coming into mma 4 years ago was muay thai and I can move guys much stronger then me in the clinch all the time because I know how to do it. It makes me laugh when these 300lb weight lifting sport guys enter the gym and just expect their strength to carry them.
That is exactly what silvia did, he had double under hooks most of the clinch game, so unless he can lift around 260 dead weight with a shifting center of gravity with just his biceps, he wasnt going to take Tim down. He has potential but he needs years of training before he is going to fight guys that have trained combat sports for 20 years.
I think this just breaks down to technique, and from what I have seen he doesnt have it. Strength is really important to heavys, but you have to know how to use that weight and strength. I am 245 , my discipline coming into mma 4 years ago was muay thai and I can move guys much stronger then me in the clinch all the time because I know how to do it. It makes me laugh when these 300lb weight lifting sport guys enter the gym and just expect their strength to carry them.
That is exactly what silvia did, he had double under hooks most of the clinch game, so unless he can lift around 260 dead weight with a shifting center of gravity with just his biceps, he wasnt going to take Tim down. He has potential but he needs years of training before he is going to fight guys that have trained combat sports for 20 years.
redsamurai
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and as soon as he did that he probably had to stop eating bacon saurkraut and candy as his diet. No shit, that's what that fucker eats....no way your body metabolizes that unless you're a roid induced nitrogen producing machine.
AztecWarrior
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redsamurai
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No fuckin' way! That's fucking sick.
It was hard for me to fathom when I read it. Maybe it's changed by now, but in his best WSM days homeboy's diet was just simply "calories"....and I guess when you're pounding GH, Insulin and whatever gear combination your mind can come up with....actual quality of food is irrelevant, your body is metabolizing and synthesizing everything.
AztecWarrior
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That couldn't have been good for his overall health. Wonder what kind of impact it will have in the next couple of years, while he ages.
Marius looked like an over ripe tomato about to explode after 2 mins.
I had a friend that was a fighter, about 5'8" 210, smooth. Very large fists. He used to love knocking out big juiceheads, did it all the time.
I've personally tooled guys 50 pounds heavier on the mats many times. There's very little carryover from bodybuilding/powerlifting type workouts to MMA. Trying to use strength to win a fight gives you about one set worth of time until you're blown up.
That's 30-90 seconds fellas.
One of my favorite fight vids is of a 150lbs Gracie destroying a huge bodybuilder who's claimed weight is 250 (although he looks too short to be over 210 to me). It's not even a contest after 90 seconds.
Bodybuilding is not a sport. It's an art. Why would you risk destroying a sculpture you worked on for years by fighting? I don't think the guy even got paid. It was kind of funny though.
I had a friend that was a fighter, about 5'8" 210, smooth. Very large fists. He used to love knocking out big juiceheads, did it all the time.
I've personally tooled guys 50 pounds heavier on the mats many times. There's very little carryover from bodybuilding/powerlifting type workouts to MMA. Trying to use strength to win a fight gives you about one set worth of time until you're blown up.
That's 30-90 seconds fellas.
One of my favorite fight vids is of a 150lbs Gracie destroying a huge bodybuilder who's claimed weight is 250 (although he looks too short to be over 210 to me). It's not even a contest after 90 seconds.
Bodybuilding is not a sport. It's an art. Why would you risk destroying a sculpture you worked on for years by fighting? I don't think the guy even got paid. It was kind of funny though.
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