Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below im thinking tren. obviously its not possible to do while natural, but lee priest says in an interview that he advocates on the old school of high volume 20-30 sets per muscle workouts. he also says that he pushes every set to failure, meaning he does high volume and high intensity. let me get everyones thought on this. obviously, the diet has to be in check, and the calories have to be pretty high.
Which AAS would allow you to train with high volume and high intensity?
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wolfman87
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i think you should definitely change your routine up every now and then to keep your body guessing. what you're talking about is something you could do for this, i also like to super set when i feel like i'm getting too comfortable. to each their own really, you have to get in touch with your body and just do what feels right imho. for instance, i don't have a set schedule, what i do is i workout whatever i feel like i can get a good a pump on that day. however you can't skimp on legs, or back, or arms, or whatever you don't like doing either. it just seems like it keeps things fresh to me and keeps me more motivated knowing i don't have to do something if i don't want to as long as i make up for it later in the week which i always do because i will feel like working out what i haven't worked out in a few days if that makes any sense at all. pretty much ima do me and you do you is what i'm trying to say, i don't believe that you should listen to anyone who says, "this will absolutely work so do it". that's not to say you shouldn't give it a shot for a while. i love to try knew things...
Good reply wolfman87.
Without a doubt. he says he only runs deca and parabolan for 8 weeks as a mass cycle. thats a lie no doubt about it, but there has to be something out there that allows you to train with maximum endurance and strength set after set. my compound movements stay consistant. i base my workouts around barbell and db presses(incline and flat), seated barbell shoulder presses, bent barbell rows, deadlift, squats and leg presses, those are never changed.
aquatic_glories
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high volume , high intensity , higher volume lower intensity, high intensity lower volume; I am cool with all of these but I dont understand how one can train high volume and high intensity at the same time??
It is like running 100 m in less than 10 seconds with 45 second rest between the sprints..
It is like running 100 m in less than 10 seconds with 45 second rest between the sprints..
AlphaMaleDawg
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All of em will help to a certain point. I find i have the most steam when im taking heavy androgens. prolly cause i am also taking in upwards of 8000 calories too...
8000? dayam dude what are your stats? i assume that is on a bulk
I gotcha, so basically the rule still stands. High intensity or high volume but not both in the same workout.
intensity is not how much effort you're putting out. That's subjective.
intensity is objective--what percentage of your max are you working with.
So if you wanted high intensity and high volume, that would mean that you're using maybe 85-90% of your max for a lot of sets and reps. Good luck with that.
Just use prilipin's chart to figure out what sort of rep range and total number of reps you should be using for a given intensity.
intensity is objective--what percentage of your max are you working with.
So if you wanted high intensity and high volume, that would mean that you're using maybe 85-90% of your max for a lot of sets and reps. Good luck with that.
Just use prilipin's chart to figure out what sort of rep range and total number of reps you should be using for a given intensity.
Intensity IS maximum effort, training that set to failure. Bro, im not asking how to train. i know how to train. i want to know which aas will allow......nevermind. obviously you didnt read my question. thanks for the replies everyone
lookinfit75
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I think Wulfgar answered your question and also gave you a diet tip to aid the chemical assistance.
I know that. and i said "thanks everyone for your replies". that includes wulfgar
not possible. its 1 or the other. everyones line of over training is different but 20-30 sets to failure is bs.
its possible if they do a reverse pyramid and go lighter but definitely not possible to go higher with weights every set. im a high volume trainer myself, i usually do 2 sets of 10-12 adding weights every set then go to failure on last 2 sets. i do 5 exercises for every muscle and 4 sets each. quads get 3 exercises and 5 sets each. i just watched dorian yates blood and guts training video (torrent download), and the way he trains is strictly high intensity. 2-3 warm up sets then 1 all out maximum effort set to failure and he is fucking huge. i should change my workouts to high intesity.i just feel 35-40 minutes for a workout is not long enough and i should train for 90 minutes, i know, i know, muscle grows when you rest, not at the gym, so dont give me that line.
and im sure 8000 calories would allow me to train with higher intensity and higher volume.
im taking it as 20-30 working sets on each muscle group. i really dont see how someone with any size would be able to pull off 20 sets to failure on lets say biceps ew without over training. it sounds crazy. if i hit 4 failure sets i am well past the pump and i was on huge cycles with masive amounts of food and was always able to trash any muscle group with far less than 20-30 sets. it just sounds crazy i dont know. i guess i shouldnt have said impossible, i have seen some crazy shit here and there.
BlackIron220
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You are exactly correct!!!!!
I do 3 movements per body part. Sets vary depending on how I feel that day.
Example, Back:
Deads, 2-3 warmup sets and at least 3 heavy work sets.
BB rows 1-2 warm-up sets and at least 4 heavy work sets.
close grip pull downs, 5-6 sets tapering weight up.
If the diet is there I grow. If its not then I just maintain. I find ofcourse my strength and stamina is diet dependant. Some AAS make me feel different. Dbol obviously helps when you take it before training.
