Doing research on Clen.

[abxavier]

Now that I have a steady diet going, and enough cardio and strength training through the day, I am safely ready to try a supplement to help with fat loss and strength gains.

I have been steady on my diet for about a month now and am seeing decent results. But not noticeable.

I am now doing research on clenbuterol, reading backgrounds on it, side effects and dosages. I read on another post that taurine should be used with it?

Ladies (or men) please post up what you know about clen that might help me in my decision making.

Thank you in advance!

AB

 

[Melaina]

I will never be one to say have your diet in check...etc...etc before doing any AAS. If you're ready to do Clen that's absolutely your decision. You may or may not like it and there are other options out there.. ECA, ECYA stacks.... I've even researched albuterol as an alternative without the sides. I have my levels of favorites to not favorites.... when it comes to weight loss I am personally against DNP and am on the wire about T3 and T4 although I've heard good things about stacking Clen with T3. I can answer any particular questions you may have... and yes Taurine is an absolute must and can be purchased at any internet herbal supplement store. My local pharmacies/Walmart did not carry it... I think I purchased mine on ebay, I can't remember... it's been a while.

No matter what route you take you WILL see weight loss.... it's just a matter of what side effects you're willing to deal with. CLEN gave me jitters, shakes, hyperactive behavior and extreme paranoid behavior (with taurine) but I've learned to tweak dosing to alleviate the shakes and headaches (for the most part). Whatever dealer you go with... pay the extra to get a reputable dealer. You don't want a sub/super potent bottle.... it's not like male AAS where you can have a super potent bottle and it not affect you (that greatly).... with female aas the doses are so low that it DOES make a big difference (female aas in general... not directed at Clen as you can take the same dose as men, although... from experience I don't suggest it)

 

[abxavier]

I will never be one to say have your diet in check...etc...etc before doing any AAS. If you're ready to do Clen that's absolutely your decision. You may or may not like it and there are other options out there.. ECA, ECYA stacks.... I've even researched albuterol as an alternative without the sides. I have my levels of favorites to not favorites.... when it comes to weight loss I am personally against DNP and am on the wire about T3 and T4 although I've heard good things about stacking Clen with T3. I can answer any particular questions you may have... and yes Taurine is an absolute must and can be purchased at any internet herbal supplement store. My local pharmacies/Walmart did not carry it... I think I purchased mine on ebay, I can't remember... it's been a while.

No matter what route you take you WILL see weight loss.... it's just a matter of what side effects you're willing to deal with. CLEN gave me jitters, shakes, hyperactive behavior and extreme paranoid behavior (with taurine) but I've learned to tweak dosing to alleviate the shakes and headaches (for the most part). Whatever dealer you go with... pay the extra to get a reputable dealer. You don't want a sub/super potent bottle.... it's not like male AAS where you can have a super potent bottle and it not affect you (that greatly).... with female aas the doses are so low that it DOES make a big difference (female aas in general... not directed at Clen as you can take the same dose as men, although... from experience I don't suggest it)

I've heard a lot of good things about clenbuterol. When I first started dieting and exercising, I looked into ECA stacks but I didn't feel as much tug to that as I did to clen when I would read about it. I haven't read anything about albuterol. Is it any good, do you know? How did you tweak your clen to get rid of some of those sides? I think I can handle headaches, but I HATE having the jitters. And uh... paranoid behaviors? Really? Paranoid about just anything or certain things? Thats odd. Where would you suggest buying clen? And do you suggest the injectable, pill, or liquid? Thank you so much for posting up to help me!

 

[Tami Bellon]

I've heard a lot of good things about clenbuterol. When I first started dieting and exercising, I looked into ECA stacks but I didn't feel as much tug to that as I did to clen when I would read about it. I haven't read anything about albuterol. Is it any good, do you know? How did you tweak your clen to get rid of some of those sides? I think I can handle headaches, but I HATE having the jitters. And uh... paranoid behaviors? Really? Paranoid about just anything or certain things? Thats odd. Where would you suggest buying clen? And do you suggest the injectable, pill, or liquid? Thank you so much for posting up to help me!

The ECA stack is an effective alternative to Clen. You will get the jitters with both. With Clen they supposidly subside after your system has acclimated, however, many have said they don't. I have never heard from anyone who has used it that they had ANY paranoia whatsoever. Clen has also been linked to scaring of the the sac that encloses the heart, causing a "stiffening". This means the heart can have a problem functioning - not good.

Whichever you choose, keep in mind that these are STIMULANTS. They both cause the shakes - you won't get around that.

I would forget about T3. You are a beginner and need to do A LOT of research to educate yourself on substances, whatever you may be thinking about. Do NOT just take someone's word for it - do the research. Look up articles, studies, stories of those who are EXPERIENCED.

 

[abxavier]

Thank you. I think i've read enough on Clen now to kind of shy away from it. Sounds really effective, but way too bad for you. I think i'm going to look more into T3 to see how that goes. Any other suggestions?

 

[chazk]

t-3 and clen is used more then one would think , from models getting ready for a photo shoot, bikini circut contest girls, figure models,fitness competators,to the girl at the gym that just signed up 2 months ago and is ready to drop some fat to get a new boyfriend.

It runs rampant atleast where i am at in florida becuase its pretty much bikini season all year around and I live close to the water,
plus a few local bodybuilding shows are held in the tri county area and mid florida so bodybuilding or fitness is pretty big in some circle.

I try to stay out of the scene and gym gossip.
But will give this advice if you want to use
taper up the thyroid slowley up and down over 12 weeks , if you dont you will regret it and end up looking like every fluffy face chick at the gym that has thyroid bounce back 2 weeks after the 12 week cycle and it always seems the face gets it the worst , must be some kind of water retention related problem in the face with low thyroid levels.

You dont need as much as people say or suggest
week 1 25mcgs
week 2 25mcgs
week 3 50 mcgs
week 4 50 mcgs
week 5 50 mcgs
week 6 50 mcgs
week 8 25 mcgs
week 9 25 mcgs
week 10 12.5 mcgs
week 11 12.5 mcgs
week 12 6.25 mcgs

most tabs are 25mgs and scored so pretty eazy to break. if you can get a script or know somebody with one, T-3 is convered under wal-marts 4 dollar perscription plan.

the clen , i just stay away from the stuff I get dehydrated alot and my face turns a strange redish purple color in the cheeks becuase it raises my blood pressure bad.

I used the clen syrup , ventipulmin. each cc is 75 mcgs its tasteless and oderless.
be sure to use a syringe and measure out the correct dose and WAIT . dont take some and think its not doing anything then a few minutes later take more, clen last around 8 hours , then breaks down and leaves the body in 24-36 hours. I would suggest only taking does early in the day. Say 20mcgs upound awaking and 20mcgs at noon
then build up from there. To much give you the shakes so bad and insomnia you just stop taking it after a few days and think it was the worst exp of your life, so start off slow and raise it to avoid the shakes and insomnia or you will regret it

 

[Tami Bellon]

If you haven't tried the ECA stack yet, try it before trying anything else.

E - ephedrine - buy it at the pharm counter at Walgreen's for $13 or so
C - caffiene
A - asprin

One tab of each ED at the beginning and you can increase to 2x ED if you feel comfortable with it. (you might only need a 1/2 tab of ephedrine to start. It's strong at 25 mg.)

If you have any kind of heart issue - do not take anything mentioned in this thread that is a stimulant.

 

[slat1]

ECA works best for me.
Clen was a waste of my money.
I will never use T3. Its just beyond what I am comfortable risking.
These days I just tweak my diet. If I really want results I will drink Green Tea. If for some reason I am focused on success I will do 20 minutes of cardio.

 

[Melaina]

I am starting an ECA stack next week, I can help you if you'd like. I really DO think you'll like it better.

tbellon loving the new avatar!!

 

[abxavier]

Well, I work out 5x a week. 3x a week is cardio after weights. For about 30 minutes. And I drink at least one glass of green tea a day. I have protein with every meal. At least a 4oz fish every day. Protein shakes and chicken, fish and steak are all in my diet. I take fish oil pills, I take flax oil pills, I take my one a day vitamin. And I take a hair/skin/nails pill to grow them out faster. . I have the typical 3 egg whites, 1/2cup oats (either oatmeal or dry toasted oats cereal) and my vitamins for the day. Or most of my vitamins. And from there on is a mix between fish or chicken salads, protein shakes, 5oz chicken, fish, or steak with side of veggies and some small carb (this is usually my last meal.)

So, I mean, i've got things pretty much down as far as diet and cardio. I was at one time doing cardio with every workout (5x a week) but Thandie said that might be too much. So I dropped it to 3x. Should I up it?

So the ECA stuff can be bought all at Walgreens? They can actually sell the ephedrine there? I heard you don't need the aspirin unless you're obese? I think I might try that first, instead of opting straight for Clen. Thank you guys.

 

[Melaina]

No, you need the aspirin. It wouldn't be an ECA stack without it

I don't know how much OTC Ephedrine cost but you can get some decent 10 or 25mg pills out of the country... 20-25mg pills cost me roughly $24...

 

[abxavier]

Where is a good place to get ephedrine? What internet site is the best for buying it?

 

[Melaina]

I don't buy anything off websites... at least not public ones. If you're serious I can probably pull some strings but it would be a few weeks out.

 

[sbt2082]

Where is a good place to get ephedrine? What internet site is the best for buying it?

I believe someone listed above that you could get it a Walgreens (or whatever your neighborhood pharmacy may be)

If you are gonna order it though, I would check some of the site sponsors here first as they probably have it!

 

[abxavier]

Just stopped at Target pharmacy and they told me I have to have a prescription for ephedrine. State law. So that's now out of the question. Only other option is asking people that know people that know people. Or finding a legit site online and ordering it.

Hmph.....

 

[abxavier]

What about this stuff called "Yellow Bullet"? It has caffeine and ephedrine in it. Would that work or do I need actual ephedrine tablets and caffeine tablets seperately?

 

[Melaina]

There ARE ECA stacks you can buy but I DO think you will benefit from your own... you will know the actual dosing and are sure you're getting what they say you're getting. The internet is a wonderful place to get good stuff but EVERYONE knows that and alot of stuff is just a scam and for less money you can build your own stack, a better stack.... one that you can tweak to suit your body.

OK look at it this way... the FDA has been cracking down on supplements hard core.... (ref: all of the weight loss recalls in the last year that had an Rx ingredient undeclared)... because there is little control over basic dietary supplements if a company sells something that they declare Ephedra in.... and it's tested and doesn't contain Ephedra.... that's not the FDA's issue.... that's the FCC's issue... so it becomes an FCC problem and those are WAY backlogged. The product will not be pulled off the market for declaring something it doesn't have (as a supplement, unless it's a mineral...as a list of minerals are heavily regulated and if they are sub/super potent will be an issue... ie: iron, etc...).... only when it has something that it's not supposed to have.... and doesn't declare...

Alot of stores/pharmacies do carry epehdrine but they're going to be small quantities... like 2 pills by checkout (very common at gas stations)... for $4.00..... I am SURE someone on the board, a sponsor has epehdrine... there's got to be.... if not... there are options. but you need to order your caffeine too...

 

[abxavier]

Yeah, I see what you mean. I know everyone goes to the internet to find something they need that stores don't have. I bought 200mg caffeine pills from the grocery store along with the baby aspirin. My bf was wanting to know if yellowbullet would be good but I kept telling him that i'd rather have it all seperate and know what i'm getting and know that if its not working, then I need to change something around. I just thought i'd ask about that because he kept bugging me about it. But I definitely know what you mean and I really want it all seperately for that exact reason.

 

[Jennyfromdaclub]

Hi there, I am new and looking to really get serious about my fitness! I have always been into working out...and usually am at the gym 5-6x a week (sometimes 2x a day). I am an equestrian rider and ride 3-4x/week ontop of my workouts. I also have a decent diet - except the occasional dinner out where I try my best to pick the healthier options (sometimes its portion size that I fail at) and I like my wine but am trying to cut it out completely. I take tons of supplements and vitamins (omega 3-6-9, cran, probiotic, D, E, multi with minerals, Veg greens, Green Tea Matcha, BCAA, Protein, Creatine, L-car, Calcium, CLA, Q-10: obviously not all at once but in combo's throughout the day).

My PT has recently suggested Clen and T3 which I started 3 days ago. Yes I have an elevated heart rate but I find no more than any stimulant causes but the shakes are pretty annoying - especially while working out (squats and anything where you are holding a pose like in yoga!). But I have seen great results accomplished by friends and will try to stick this out.

My question is about T3 and Clen's effect on other supplements and vitamins...do they take away from their effectiveness? Should they be taken apart from one another? I can't find much information about this.

 

[caligirl85]

How are you dosing it?

 

[Gogetter006]

Did anyone figure out where too.get the Ephedrine?

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